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With experience in several small Whalers, I would recommend adding a hydrofoil to the anti-ventilation plate. There are one or two available WITHOUT drilling holes in the plate. Drilling 2 holes never really bothered me because the hydrofoil worked so well that they became permanent. The benefits we...

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Question: What problem are you trying to cure with trim tabs?
Is the rear “squatting too low” at certain speeds? Are you unable to bring the bow down at lower speeds?
Are you trying to level out one side versus the other?

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Lots of great advice already given above. I highly recommend Pettit Hydrocoat ECO. A WATER-based, multi-seasonal, ablative (slowly wears away) antifouling bottom paint. (Black, Blue, red, green or white) (soap and water clean-up). It does NOT contain copper and minimized electrolysis. Your zincs las...

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When we had our 13 Whaler, we had a Mills Canvas mooring cover: expensive, but I thought worth it. With their unique “gunwale clips” and draw string around the hem, it’s a tight, perfect fit. Now with the 150 Montauk, I ordered a helm seat cover, and console cover, as well as a Bimini sun top all in...

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Yes, you’ll go faster with a 90.
That’s the ONLY upside I see.
Resale value drops.
Too much weight aft.
For my money, if I wanted to go faster, I’d get a 17/170 Whaler with a 90.

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Re a self-bailing hull: A 150 MONTAUK does not have the classic self-bailing hull, that is, a hull interior above the water-line with scuppers that drain out. However, our 150 MONTAK has a Sahara-brand pump with internal float switch. This works great—providing the float remains free, doesn’t stick,...

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We had a 2000 40 Johnson 2-stroke on our 13 Super Sport.
Symptoms were nearly identical.

Found a small hole in the diaphragm of fuel pump.

Replaced fuel pump: problem solved.

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Yup.
My Maui Jim’s are polarized, multi-coated, prescription, and progressive (no-line).
They are admirable. NOT CHEAP! Around $365

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Ever Spring I [perform the procedure described in the linked article whose URL appears below] on our 11 year old Montauk 150. It looks brand new. The non-skid is not slippery, but CLEAN, and RESISTS getting dirty. And the occasional bird dropping or grandkids sticky, gooey candy cleans right up. htt...

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jimh,
Double check on that Jim.
The 17 Montauk is actually 950 lbs.

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Hey OldSlowandugly, Brilliant stuff!! The number 1 boat stand outfit is Brownell. I bought one of their first”boat lifting systems”. Very nifty! https://boatstands.com/product/manual-boat-lifting-system/ Easy bottom painting. And can be done alone! Now, the whole neighborhood competes for it! Nice j...

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Collinite Metal Polish.
After 6 Whalers with stainless Bimini supports.......I swear by it.
Get it online.
The 885 Fleetwax is the best wax for hulls hands down. (assuming proper preparation)

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A 170 Montauk on a dock nearby had rainwater accumulate after several storms last year. It was holding about as much as the hull would hold. The rear end tends to squat when filled, and the water was just about flowing in and out over the transom. Obviously, the bilge pump was no longer working. It ...

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Phil T,
You’re correct.
However, when you compare the two boats, the 2019 130 SS rides SO much better than the old classic 13, and still does over 32 mph with 40 hp.

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Jkcam--the 150 Montauk actually has the deeper hull/keel at 16 degrees vs the Super Sport at 14 degrees. Both boats weight 950-lbs dry. We have a 2008 150 Montauk with the Mercury 60 EFI BigFoot. I can’t say enough about that boat. For a 15-foot boat, it does so many things well. After 10 years on C...

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Yes on Barrier coat Recommendation: Pettit Hydrocoat ECO, copper-free, water-based (easy clean up) antofouling paint. In 75-80F salt water......fabulous! CAN be used on metals without promoting electrolysis whic can PREVENT copper paints from proper leaching out for protection. Expensive? Yes. So ar...

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“The propeller appeared too small: with a 17-pitch there was a ton of slip. The hull itself felt heavy.” Can you describe what you mean by “there was a ton of slip”? That may be it exactly. Your prop may have a “spun or slipping hub”. If that is the case, when there is enough resistance, the hub “sl...

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I simply got tired of all tools that are not up to the job—and that means ALL tools and machines. Boat, home, automotive—you name it. About six years ago I bought a REAL snap tool—NO REGRETS. And I made lots of friends with it. https://www.sailrite.com/Pres-N-Snap-Fastener-Tool [Same tool as mention...

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Am I missing something? I don’t recall ever hearing 170 Montauk with Mercury 90 FourStroke was underpowered. See the stats below. Mercury 90 FourStroke Standard https://bostonwhaler-8c1e.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Chart-170-montauk-1-1-e1474301205940.png However, here we are discussing how...

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Landlocked,
Please see: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/005958.html

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Years ago, I had the same problem on a 1987 13’ Super Sport just behind the anchor locker in the floor. About 1’x 2’ area. Instead of using Gorilla Glue, I used West System epoxy. It was mixed, and put into a new, empty caulking gun cartridge. I drilled two holes. One as far forward of the soft spot...

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Dutch--agreed! A 70-HP would be a good performer on the 17 Montauk.

Way back, I had a 1964 17 Nauset with a Mercury 70 two-stroke engine: a good balance with more than adequate power.
The only downside: it was WET--not nearly as dry as our 150 Montauk boats.

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School still out on Mercury 60 EFI? Not for me. Our 2008 Anniversary Edition Montauk 150 is entering its tenth season. The China-assembled 60 EFI has been a strong performer with zero problems--fuel sipping, quiet, easy to maintain, runs as new, dealers and service easily available virtually everywh...

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Perhaps these folks can help you.
http://blackduckgallery.com/WOODPARTS_2.html

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Assuming the dealers are equal, my money would go for the E-TEC.

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One caution on 000 steel wool: In saltwater environs, avoid steel wool like the plague. The “dust and small particles” from the steel wool will get everywhere and quickly rust, causing more rust stains than you ever though possible. Stick with 3M pads, or possibly bronze wool if you can find it. Ste...

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I use Collinite Metal Cleaner and Wax.

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I had the exact same model boat with a 30 E-TEC. Fabulous match for that hull. The correct shaft length is 20-inch.

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We had a 250 OX66 on our 25-footer--powerful engine. Top speed approaching 45-MPH. That’s the good news. That engine is not economical with fuel, and at harbor and trolling speeds it is a smoking, stinking 2-stroke. If the wind is from the aft quarter, then your crew will complain of stinky blue smo...

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It would be helpful to define the model and year of boat.

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We had nearly identical damage to our 1988 Revenge 25 WT. I took it to Nauset Marine in Orleans on Cape Cod, a long established Boston Whaler dealer. I picked up the repaired boat one week later and could not find any sign of the repair. It was undetectable. I could have NEVER been able to accomplis...

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A 15 or 20-HP two-stroke-power-cycle engine is adequate for a 13-foot Boston Whaler. If in doubt, go with the 20-HP engine. A 20-HP engine was the MAXIMUM horsepower for tiller steering for early 13-foot Boston Whaler boats.

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The Wm. J. Mills & Co. suntop on our 150 Montauk (that we ordered aftermarket) is on sliding rails, so that it will slide up snugly to the front railings. When used, it simply slides aft and covers the front console cooler seat, helm, and helm seat. All stainless. Superb installation instruction...

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Here's a convenient choice:
http://www.ceshowroom.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CWR57170&click=2&gclid=COGY7oPdicwCFcskhgodOqMFaQ

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As Whal has already suggested, self adhesive Velcro strips, 4" long, has worked for me for many years.

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I think the 210 Montauk is impressive.
How about a 250 Montauk? With a 250-300 Verado (Of course the price would be rediculous, it's a Whaler)
What a platform for anything! And a "real" head in a stand-up console.

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Ideally yes. The hydrofoil is attached to the anti-ventilation plate, and in virtually all cases of planing hulls, the plate should be above the water line when on full plane. It is very common to have the plate just below the water, which affects performance. When I say above, it's not by much. Oft...

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On our 1987 13 Super Sport we used a StingRay Jr with our 2000 Johnson 40, and then on our 2010 30 E-TEC. I believe they work excellent. It allows a slower planing speed for choppy conditions, and faster planing and better trim. It also helps prevent "transom squat". We had power trim and ...

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As you describe your load, you will need a motor with enough grunt to get on plane quickly, and have enough reserve power. In my opinion, no 4-stroke will have the torque and acceleration as the 40 E-TEC. It is as quiet as the 4-stokes, no smoke, perhaps more fuel efficient, and even though only 2 c...

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FSR works, BUT has the same caustic active ingredient, OXALIC ACID. I believe that the CLAY is trying to avoid using the really strong "wax removing" and galvanized trailer harming products. That's why I suggested white vinegar. It may, or may not, get the job done. If it works (and I have...

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Vinegar should not bother the trailer. Extra precaution would be to wet trailer first, and rinse off when done.

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The mooring next to me has a 15 classic with a 50 (not 60) E-TEC. The boat sits beautiful at rest with the 50, which weighs the same as the 60. I've never driven his boat but I know he's pleased with performance and he's had zero problems. He's had it for 5 years. His larger Hydro Sport has twin 200...

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Try straight white vinegar or cut 50:50 with water

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If you're going new....for my money.....Montauk. Overall, the lowest cost of ownership over time, and perhaps the #1 sought after boat in the used market when it gets time for re-sale. The 170 is a tough boat to beat for overall performance and long term quality. That spells value. Before I'd spend ...

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On our 1987 13' Super Sport with a 30 E-TEC the anti-ventilation plate was about 1 - 1.5 inches above the bottom of the boat.
That seemed to be a sweet spot for best performance on our rig.

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I installed the well nuts when I installed the Mills Canvas suntop to our 1987 13 Super Sport. They came with the top directly from Wells. Never had a problem with them, they held just fine. Sold the boat to my neighbor, still holding strong.

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We have a 2008 150 Montauk, which is the same hull as your 2003. The telescoping swim ladder is super, and flips up to store against the transom. I highly recommend it! (I'm 66 and 180 pounds, and it works great for me!!) See link below and scroll for picture near the bottom. Pictures show in both p...

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Russellbailey,
I've got the Manual Version.
The read jack stands are low enough to get under my 150 Montauk, and the fronts "lock" the support arm in place for safety.
It's pretty slick!

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BTW, the competitor is made in China. Brownell is here in Massachusetts, and is the standard for boat stands.
I'm not getting under a boat held up by something made with cheap Chinese metal--no way.

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I purchased the Brownell Boat Lift System last spring. Fabulous!! The reason: I have a 150 Montauk, and several friends have 170 Montauks. At least one of use will need to take the boat off the trailer each spring. So, with safety in mind, I went ahead. In my mind, great decision. A one-man job with...

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