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by Peter
Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:59 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 with 1989 Johnson 120; E-TEC 150-HP Re-power
Replies: 10
Views: 5155

Re: Outrage 18 with 1989 Johnson 120; E-TEC 150-HP Re-power

The Viper is a good top speed propeller, the Rebel is a better cruiser.
by Peter
Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:22 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 with 1989 Johnson 120; E-TEC 150-HP Re-power
Replies: 10
Views: 5155

Re: Outrage 18 with 1989 Johnson 120; E-TEC 150-HP Re-power

Nice looking combination. It would be worth it to invest in a stainless steel propeller. Check here on what others have used but the BRP Rebel may be a good choice in the same pitch as the alumimum you have now.
by Peter
Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:50 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Evinrude RX-4 Propeller and TBX Hub Kits
Replies: 7
Views: 4476

Re: Evinrude RX-4 Propeller and TBX Hub Kits

There has been much praise given to the RX-4 propeller. I wonder how well the RX-4 propeller would work with a G1 E-TEC.
by Peter
Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:48 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 with 1989 Johnson 120; E-TEC 150-HP Re-power
Replies: 10
Views: 5155

Re: Outrage 18 with 1989 Johnson 120

That engine was rated 120 HP at the propeller shaft. If in good working order, it should push the boat to 40+ MPH. Have you done a compression check? If I recall correctly, the compression on the motor should be in the 120 to 130 psi range (gauges will vary). Regarding repower, a 150 E-TEC G1 is a n...
by Peter
Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:26 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1985 Outrage 18 Propeller
Replies: 1
Views: 1584

Re: 1985 Outrage Propeller Selection

What was your WOT speed and RPM with the old gearcase? Assuming 6000 RPM and 40 to 42 MPH. Clearly you will need to drop pitch down to the 13 to 14 inch range. Because its a V6 gearcase, I believe there are large diameter 13 inch pitch propellers available. I would not continue to run that motor wit...
by Peter
Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:28 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1995 Outrage 21 Re-power Yamaha 350
Replies: 6
Views: 3509

Re: 1995 Outrage 21 Re-power Yamaha 350

I have a 1995 Outrage 21 currently powered with twin Johnson 150's. I want to re-power and am considering a Yamaha 250 or 300. I found a very low hour Yamaha 350 that I may consider. The 350 is lighter than the combined weight of the twin but exceeds the HP rating on the tags on the boat. Has anyon...
by Peter
Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:43 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1987 OUTRAGE 18 Re-powered with E-TEC 150
Replies: 14
Views: 5506

Re: 1987 OUTRAGE 18 Re-powered with E-TEC 150

My first Outrage 18 came with a Johnson 150 mounted one hole up 0 0 <== 1 hole up 0 <== 2 holes up 0 turning an OMC Raker propeller which is often used on bass boats. One season I had the motor mounted two holes up and I did not like the way the boat handled in a chop. The ride was uncomfortable rel...
by Peter
Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:40 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 25 E-TEC 300 G2
Replies: 12
Views: 5430

Re: Outrage 25 E-TEC 300 G2

jimh wrote:I am surprised at the poor top speed. I don't think that boat is close to optimum performance.


How fast is an Outrage 25 with 300 HP on the transom supposed to go?
by Peter
Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:58 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 25 E-TEC 300 G2
Replies: 12
Views: 5430

Re: Notched Outrage 25 with a 300 G2

All the reports I've seen for the G2s show them to be remarkably efficient at cruise, particularly at fast cruising speeds.
by Peter
Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:52 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 25 E-TEC 300 G2
Replies: 12
Views: 5430

Re: Notched Outrage 25 with a 300 G2

The 3rd video shows the Outrage 25 moving along at 35 MPH and getting 3.4 MPG. I don't know what an Outrage 25 gets with other modern fuel efficient motors at that speed but that seems like an outstanding efficiency. My 25 foot Pursuit with fuel efficient twin 150s gets about 2.4 MPG at best.
by Peter
Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:43 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 Montauk E-TEC 90
Replies: 9
Views: 4327

Re: 170 Montauk E-TEC 90

I think you make the right choice. The HO is better for the 170 Montauk.
by Peter
Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:42 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: New Suzuki DF30A
Replies: 8
Views: 4016

Re: New Suzuki DF30A

At 489 cc, the Suzuki DF30A has the smallest displacement of any 30 HP outboard motor.

Yamaha 30 -- 747 cc
Yamaha 25 -- 498 cc
Honda 30 -- 552 cc
Tohatsu 30 -- 526 cc
Mercury 30 -- 526 cc
Evinrude 30 -- 577 cc *

* 2-stroke displacement. Equivalent to about 690 cc of 4-stroke displacement.
by Peter
Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:34 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Beware of Sandbars
Replies: 4
Views: 3139

Re: Beware of Sandbars

I'll bet that Grady had a rotted transom, something Grady's are well known for having.
by Peter
Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:42 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

jimh wrote:More data on weights:...

The weight is a disappointment. Target is clearly new boat applications that have been designed for the heavy 4-stroke. The G1 models WILL NOT be retired.
by Peter
Tue Jun 28, 2016 11:04 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

Some sources are indicating that a 25 inch 150 is more than 500 lbs. If that is true, that is disappointing. I would not be able to able to hang a pair of these on my boat.
by Peter
Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:32 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

The no starboard-starboard block design is very interesting. The engineers must have had more time to work out the modeling of the combustion chamber behavior for the mirror-image port side of the block. Perhaps there is an angle (e.g. 70 degrees and less) where there the costs of the starboard-sta...
by Peter
Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:03 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

jimh wrote:They are built on a 2.7-liter six-cylinder 64-degree V-block.


A very good source of info suggests 66 degree block without starboard-starboard design.
by Peter
Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:56 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

What do you think the weight of the 150hp will be? I'm guessing about 450 to 460 lbs for a 25 inch non-power steering version. Well within the weight of the 4-strokes. If you include the weight of a hydraulic steering ram on a G1 150, that represents an increase of about a 10 to 15 lb increase. The...
by Peter
Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:05 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

I will be very interested in the 150hp G2. Looks, weight and cost. Me too. I currently have a pair of 2003 Yamaha 150 HPDIs with low hours which I hope will last a long time. But if repowering, I'd like to take some weight off the transom. The 150 HPDIs are not light like the G1 E-TEC 150s. Hopeful...
by Peter
Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:40 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: E-TEC 200-HP Gets Splashed Heavily in Saltwater
Replies: 6
Views: 2691

Re: E-TEC 200-HP Gets Splashed Heavily in Saltwater

Run the self-winterizing routine a few times.
by Peter
Thu May 19, 2016 2:44 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

I don't think it is a "quick fix" solution. Evinrude likes to do things modularly, which helps control costs by reducing the number of individual parts that need to be produced. They actually did it in the 1970s with the cross-flow V4 and V6. And they do it today with the large I2 to 2.6-l...
by Peter
Thu May 19, 2016 7:26 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models
Replies: 33
Views: 13513

Re: Evinrude to Reveal more E-TEC G2 Models

I think Evinrude could play this segment a couple of ways - 1) 2.6L V6 or 2) 2.3L V4 1. 2.6L V6 The current 2.6L G1 uses a narrow angle block (60 degree) and so I wonder whether the angle would need to be widened to accommodate the starboard-starboard design. A 2.6L V6 G2 would likely pack a higher ...
by Peter
Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:24 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18; Yamaha 150 HPDI
Replies: 4
Views: 2590

Re: Outrage 18; Yamaha 150 HPDI

I have two of the HPDI 150 engines. Advice: make sure you have a boat-mounted fuel-water separator that is maintained regularly. The HPDI fuel system is very sensitive to contamination.
by Peter
Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:00 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Montauk, Suzuki DF90
Replies: 7
Views: 4440

Re: Montauk, Suzuki DF90

Hoosier wrote:I have a DF115...


I believe that the current Suzuki DF90A is not the same as the DF115. The DF90A has a 1.5-liter displacement and the DF115 has a 2.0-liter displacement.
by Peter
Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:36 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 with 90-HP
Replies: 3
Views: 2729

Re: Outrage 18 with 90-HP

To some extent it also depends on what 90 HP outboard is on the transom. An Evinrude 90 (V4, 99 cubic inches) would be a far better choice than a Yamaha 90 (Inline 3, 69 cubic inches). I think the Mercury 90 is an inline 3 with about 85 cubic inches of displacement. Performance would be somewhere in...
by Peter
Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:04 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: Evinrude 35hp Lark (1963) $200 Columbia SC
Replies: 3
Views: 2042

Re: Evinrude 35hp Lark (1963) $200 Columbia SC

Judging by the motor cover, that Evinrude 35 is a 1958 model year.
by Peter
Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:40 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1983 Montauk 17 Re-power 100-HP
Replies: 6
Views: 3366

Re: 1983 Montauk 17 Re-power 100-HP

Mr C wrote:If 100hp is a must, get yourself a Honda BF100. Only badged 100hp outboard available in the U.S. market.

http://marine.honda.com/outboards/motor-detail/BF100

If a Honda is a must, get the 90. The 100 requires 93 octane rated fuel.
by Peter
Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:19 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1983 Montauk 17 Re-power 100-HP
Replies: 6
Views: 3366

Re: 1983 Montauk 17 Re-power 100-HP

In the USA, I think Brunswick is selling these Mercury-brand FOURSTROKE BASED ON 2.1-LITER BLOCK models in 75, 90, and 115-HP versions. If they have a 100-HP version it must be a model sold overseas. In Europe, Mercury sells the 2.1L FourStroke line as 80, 100 and 115 HP models. Yamaha does the sam...
by Peter
Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:44 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Engine Choice in 115-HP
Replies: 11
Views: 8800

Re: Engine Choice in 115-HP

I must have been like Rip Van Winkle--I was asleep for a while. This Mercury 115 FOURSTROKE BASED ON 2.1-LITER BLOCK was introduced in July of 2014. Here is a presentation about the 115 FOURSTROKE recorded back then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjx-6HDp0d0 In the above presentation, the Mercury...
by Peter
Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:40 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Engine Choice in 115-HP
Replies: 11
Views: 8800

Re: Engine Choice in 115-HP

It looks like the Mercury Marine FOURSTROKE has a 31-lbs weight advantage and also a 20-percent greater displacement . The only comment I would make here is that there is not a 1 to 1 displacement comparison between a 2-stroke and a 4-stroke. In other words, a 4-stroke needs more displacement (abou...
by Peter
Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:43 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 2005 240 Outrage 225-HP
Replies: 3
Views: 2631

Re: 2005 240 Outrage 225-HP

How I gauge "underpoweredness" is what RPM does it take to cruise at 30 MPH. For a 2-stroke with a WOT limit of about 5500 and 6000 RPM, cruise RPM should be no more than 4000 RPM otherwise the boat is underpowered. Under that criteria, the 240 Outrage is underpowered. In the performance r...
by Peter
Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:18 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Johnson 90-HP Older v. Newer
Replies: 11
Views: 4600

Re: Older vs Newer Johnson 90hp

The displacement of the 1993 Evinrude orJohnson 70 was 56-cubic-inches. The three-cylinder E-TEC 90 displacement is 79 cubic inches (41 percent greater). The Evinrude or Johnson 70 most certainly WILL NOT provide the same performance as an E-TEC 90, nor will it provide the same fuel efficiency. But ...
by Peter
Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:11 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Johnson 90-HP Older v. Newer
Replies: 11
Views: 4600

Re: Older vs Newer Johnson 90hp

The 2003 is a 60-degree "looper" and the 1993 is a 90 degree cross-flow. The 1993 is simpler. One thing that I like about the cross-flow version is that It can be pull started with a rope. I believe that is not possible with the 2003. Having said that, the 2003 is a nice motor. I had a 200...
by Peter
Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:36 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Montauk Evinrude Re-power
Replies: 39
Views: 16059

Re: 1988 Montauk Evinrude Re-power

Phil, It has been a while. Missed all of you guys. I appreciate the information. I am now leaning toward the 3 cylinder based on all of your recommendations. I am still wondering a bit about folks feelings regarding long term reliability of the 3 cylinder vs the 4 cylinder. My old 88 SPL lasted 27 ...
by Peter
Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:54 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Montauk Evinrude Re-power
Replies: 39
Views: 16059

Re: 1988 Montauk Evinrude Re-power

I'm all in favor of bigger engines generally, but I've seen 400-lbs outboards on the Montauk, and I think the Montauk does not sit well with that weight on the transom. The classic Montauk was designed at a time when a 90 to 100-HP outboard weighed about 300-lbs. One other thing to consider on the 9...
by Peter
Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:27 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Montauk Evinrude Re-power
Replies: 39
Views: 16059

Re: 1988 Montauk Evinrude Re-power

Your 1988 SPL weighs about 300 lbs. The three-cylinder E-TEC 90 is about 320-lbs and the 90 H.O. is about 405-lbs. If I were in your position, I'd go with the three-cylinder model.
by Peter
Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:14 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 18 Dauntless, Suzuki 140-HP
Replies: 26
Views: 9855

Re: 18 Dauntless, Suzuki 140-HP

My mechanic is looking at replacement units for the engine and I am going to put one on because these engines have a decent resale value but I am still going to shop for a replacement. The Suzuki would be my first choice except I worry that it won't be powerful enough. Still looking for first hand ...
by Peter
Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:24 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

The Navico patents were the subject of an Inter Partes Review (IPR) at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office initiated by Raymarine. Raymarine's IPR petition was granted, which means that they raised a sufficient question as to the validity of at least one claim in the patent. The IPR proceeding was ...
by Peter
Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:17 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

The ITC issued a cease and desist order prohibiting Garmin from importing into the United States or selling or distributing within the United States certain marine sonar imaging devices, including downscan and sidescan devices, products containing the same, and components thereof . Not sure how to i...
by Peter
Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:13 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

Equally curious and quite informative, is this statement contained in the Service Bulletin: The ITC ruling does not apply to any standalone fishfinders or chartplotters that are not bundled with a transducer. This implies to me that the disputed claims again seem to be limited to certain aspects of...
by Peter
Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:59 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

I have not found the actual USITC report about their investigation of the violation by Garmin of Navico patent claims that shows what specific claims were found to be in violation. I did find an earlier report that said no violation was found, but that may have been reconsidered on an appeal and a ...
by Peter
Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:11 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: NAVICO TotalScan SONAR Tranducer
Replies: 11
Views: 15199

Re: NAVICO TotalScan SONAR Tranducer

I have a Lowrance Elite 5 HDI. The difference between the HDI and the non HDI model is the ability to display the higher frequency (455/800 KHz) fish finder image along side the lower frequency fish finder image (83/200 KHz). I cannot recall if you can have all four frequencies displayed at one time...
by Peter
Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:50 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C
Replies: 11
Views: 6129

Re: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C

I went from this http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/Whaler-Fleet/Public/956ac660-fbfb-47d6-9286-61036c8762a6_zps8dalbimu.jpg The Furuno 16XX chartplotter/fishfinder combo was junked (user interface was horrible). ICOM 504 radio was moved to cabin and ICOM Command mic added to pick up all radio ...
by Peter
Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:05 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C
Replies: 11
Views: 6129

Re: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C

Yes. You can build out a system over time as funds permit. Below is a screen shot from the 5208 showing the radar image overlay without any heading sensor. This capability is already built into the 42/52XX. Just add a Garmin radar antenna and you have it. http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/Whal...
by Peter
Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:36 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

Apparently the time variable gain optimization feature was not used by Garmin.

Keep in mind that a combination of old things in a new and unobvious way can be a patentable invention.
by Peter
Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:19 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C
Replies: 11
Views: 6129

Re: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C

Peter - Thanks. My brother-in-law (guess that would make him my sister's hubby) has a 23' Pursuit with the 4208 - very nice. The difficulty I have with the boat I'm looking at is 1990 Furuno radar and fathometer (there's an empty bracket where maybe a GPS once was). So I don't want to interface 199...
by Peter
Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:00 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

As I understand patents, you cannot patent an idea, thus you cannot patent the idea of having side scan SONAR. You can only patent a method of implementing side scan SONAR, and your method must be some new invention of the general method previously used. It seems like all of the parts of the Garmin...
by Peter
Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:19 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

Peter--Thanks for hunting down the 33 claim. It appears in EXPARTE REEXAMINATION CERTIFICATE (9647th) issed May 13, 2013. The claimed Humminbird invention which has been found to have been violated by Garmin reads: 33. The sonar system of claim 14, wherein the housing has no openings on its surface...
by Peter
Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:08 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C
Replies: 11
Views: 6129

Re: Garmin GPSMAP 3010C

The 52XX is the touch screen version of the 42XX. I currently have a 5208 and previously had a 4208. I like the touch screen better. I use the 5208 as a chart plotter and radar display. I use a Garmin 740S primarily as a fishfinder but it also serves as a backup chart plotter and backup radar displa...
by Peter
Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:36 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: More SONAR WARS in Court
Replies: 35
Views: 20022

Re: More SONAR WARS in Court

I cannot find in the patent a claim 33. Perhaps there is an amended filing that adds that one or it was removed from the last filing. This patent was filed in 2009, so Humminbird has been asserting their claim to this invention for about six years. Most of the infringement seems to be related to th...