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by msirof2001
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1994 OUTRAGE 24 Limited Edition
Replies: 10
Views: 3982

Re: 1994 OUTRAGE 24 Limited Edition

The only limited edition I know of for the Outrage 24 was the Fenwick/Cross-tackle edition. I believe it was offered in 1997. Had a very dark green hull. They advertised things like retractable cleats so lines wouldn't get caught. The emphasis was fly fishing. If I recall, there was an enhanced bow ...
by msirof2001
Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Which Whaler
Replies: 7
Views: 2447

Re: Which Whaler

My vote is the Outrage 190 for the deeper V-hull which will come in handy when you hit the bigger chop. You have huge lakes on the Idaho side of the border, plus Puget Sound, and the other places you are considering, there is the possibility of a long fetch of high winds and relatively small bodies ...
by msirof2001
Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:14 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 2007 Outrage 24 Re-power with Single from Twins
Replies: 7
Views: 3843

Re: 2007 Outrage 24 Re-power with Single from Twins

The 1993-1997 OUTRAGE 24 is probably one of my favorite hulls. I had a 1995 21 OUTRAGE for over 20 years and really wanted the 24 but it was just a little too much out of my range. Honestly, that beast has a 195 gallon fuel tank, cavernous fish holds, storage, bait tank and while the hull's dry weig...
by msirof2001
Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:58 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1994 Outrage 21 Fuel Tank Replacement
Replies: 6
Views: 1771

Re: 1994 Outrage 21 Fuel Tank Replacement

I had a 1995 21 OUTRAGE for over 20 years. Same "great" hull for model years 1993-1997. By the way, the fuel tank for the 1993-1997 21 OUTRAGE is 122 gallons, not 125. Sorry - I'm an accountant. In those years, four-cycle engines were in cars. Power rating for the 21 OUTRAGE was 150 HP min...
by msirof2001
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
Replies: 22
Views: 5935

Re: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler

I have been on the Prowler several times, and can add this information. The Prowler does in fact have radar. However, I cannot attest as to what zoom-level it was set to, whether anybody was looking at it, or whether anybody was even in the wheelhouse, etc. I wasn't on the Prowler that night. I look...
by msirof2001
Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:33 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
Replies: 22
Views: 5935

Re: Mandatory AIS

Regarding AIS- § 164.46 Automatic Identification System. (b)AIS carriage - (1)AIS Class A device. The following vessels must have on board a properly installed, operational Coast Guard type-approved AIS Class A device: (i) A self-propelled vessel of 65 feet or more in length, engaged in commercial s...
by msirof2001
Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:15 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
Replies: 22
Views: 5935

Re: Alternative AIS Track for ATTESSA IV

I saw the track at https://www.myshiptracking.com/ The collision appears to have happened Friday, 10/26/2018 between 7:25 p.m, and 7:29 p.m. in Mexican waters. I put a trackline from the collision point to the Mission Bay entrance projecting Prowler's trajectory. My speculation is the Attessa hit th...
by msirof2001
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
Replies: 22
Views: 5935

Re: unit of measurement of ship length by using bullding measurements of storey

...The ATTESSA IV is like a 22-storey building laying on its side One storey is usually considered about 10-feet. The ATTESSA IV is said to be 332-feet long, so if the unit storey is to be used to describe her length wouldn't that be a 33-storey building? JimH- I looked at several sites on the inte...
by msirof2001
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
Replies: 22
Views: 5935

Re: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler

What was the visibility at the time and location of the collision? That was the time of day? What was the speed of the vessels? The time was about 7:45pm last Friday (Oct 26). At this time of year, it is pitch-black nighttime. The passenger noted "fog and darkness". No report that I saw i...
by msirof2001
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler
Replies: 22
Views: 5935

Offshore Collision At Sea: Attessa IV and Prowler

[In the collision of the 332-foot mega-yacht ATTESSA IV with the 65-foot charter fishing boat PROWLER nine miles offshore from San Diego, California] one person died. The PROWLER was returning to port she collided with ATTESSA IV. The ATTESSA IV is like a 22-storey building laying on its side and mo...
by msirof2001
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Bob Dougherty, Everglades Boats
Replies: 3
Views: 1918

Re: Bob Dougherty, Everglades Boats

John Ward was VP-Sales at Whaler in 1995 when I got my new 1995 OUTRAGE 21. Met him at Los Angeles boat show around February 1995. Enthusiastic and nice guy. I personally thought the Everglades boats were a continuation of the trajectory that the Whaler OUTRAGE line was on during the later Dougherty...
by msirof2001
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Water Dripping From Repair on Keel
Replies: 8
Views: 2037

Re: Water Dripping From Repair on Keel

Agree with jefecinco. I had 1995 OUTRAGE 21, same hull, and had a similar situation. Dent to a chine. Major repair had to be done over and over again to finally fix. Essentially cutting out and replacing a grapefruit size chunk of hull. Not cheap. I would be wary.
by msirof2001
Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Powering a Boat Above Maximum Horsepower Rating
Replies: 8
Views: 2838

Re: 1973 Montauk 1 Power

Back in the day we put a Chevy 327 into a Chevrolet Vega wagon. Got pulled over. The cop was doing the same and wanted to check it out and ask how we did certain things to support all of the torque. No legal problems as long as it met smog requirements.
by msirof2001
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Twin 200 v. Single 350
Replies: 4
Views: 3130

Re: Twin 200 v. Single 350

Here are some twin Yamaha F200XB performance reports with boats seemingly comparable to the size you mentioned: Edgewater 262 https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboards/350-150-hp/in-line-4/f200-i4/pb_edg_262cx_t_f200xca_121615_rbt Grady White 257 https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/home/outboar...
by msirof2001
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 18 Bait System
Replies: 8
Views: 2348

Re: 18ft Outrage bait system

If you are West Coast, definitely talk to "Randy" at Bluewater Bait Systems. I have used his products for many years. Outstanding. He has stock models and customization as well. Based in Southern California (Newport Beach area). Very well known and respected in the Southern California fish...
by msirof2001
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: Looking for a Conquest. I'm in California.
Replies: 1
Views: 848

Re: Looking for a Conquest. I'm in California.

Call "Gary" at Schock Boats in Newport Beach, CA. Although Schock doesn't sell new Whalers anymore, they did for over 30 years. Gary has been there for at least 25 years. They deal used boats and oftentimes Whalers. He has his ears to the ground and may know of something. Definitely check ...
by msirof2001
Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty REDUCED
Replies: 10
Views: 4472

Re: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty

Simply amazing looking! My favorite Whaler with my favorite engines. Out of curiosity, do you have any speed and fuel consumption stats? I'm not in the market but if it were 1.5 years ago, I would have pounced on it in a second. Best of luck, and I'm jealous of whomever the lucky buyer is.
by msirof2001
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:53 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Boat Parade - Fishing for St Judes
Replies: 4
Views: 1470

Re: Boat Parade - Fishing for St Judes

They would have been overturned or swamped by the wakes of the larger boats.
by msirof2001
Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:54 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Yamaha F250 or F300 for a 23 Conquest
Replies: 7
Views: 2087

Re: Yamaha F250 or F300 for a 23 Conquest

[Isn't the boat under discussion in this thread the same boat as discussed] in the second post of another thread [discussing a different boat, the 235 CONQUEST and the same boat as discussed in this thread, a 23 CONQUEST] at http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/004484.html [In the other thread ...
by msirof2001
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Yamaha F250 or F300 for a 23 Conquest
Replies: 7
Views: 2087

Re: Yamaha 250 or 300 for a 23 Conquest

The new Yamaha F250 and F300 weigh the same, between 560 to 570-lbs. Probably the same or less than the twin Mercury engines. My 1995 21 OUTRAGE it was rated 150 to 300-HP. Given the larger size, if it were my decision, I would lean towards the F300. I have twin 300-HP engines on my Everglades and l...
by msirof2001
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:31 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 270 Dauntless: Trolling Motor; Single v. Twin Engines; More
Replies: 22
Views: 5687

Re: 270 Dauntless: Trolling Motor; Single v. Twin Engines; More

I had an OUTRAGE 21 from 1994-2017 with a single Yamaha 200 two-stroke-power-cycle engine from 1994 to 2013, and a single Yamaha F200XB engine from 2013 to 2017. And now an Everglades 295CC for a year with twin Yamaha F300 engines. My observations: --the two-stroke-power-cycle engine was much less e...
by msirof2001
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty REDUCED
Replies: 10
Views: 4472

Re: OFFSHORE 27 F300 Yamaha , Owens Trailer , Warranty

Yeah- The definition of a New York minute. This was a free Offshore 27 for the price of a pair of Yamaha 300's. Even if the monster from the Alien movies was real and occupied the cabin space, it would still be a good deal. If I was in the market, I would have pounced on this in seconds.
by msirof2001
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:57 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Whaler Vespa
Replies: 2
Views: 1258

Re: Whaler Vespa

Obviously a Verado under the seat. The rack for carrying things doesn't look like 316 stainless steal.
by msirof2001
Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 21 OUTRAGE Access to hidden raw water pump
Replies: 4
Views: 1621

Re: 21 OUTRAGE Access to hidden raw water pump

I had a 1995 21 OUTRAGE and the raw-water pump was inside the center console mounted on the aft wall of the console in close proximity to the wiring and fuses behind the rocker switches. Next to the freshwater pump, which I had because mine had the optional 20gal freshwater tank. On mine, in the cav...
by msirof2001
Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Whalers in PNW - Puget Sound
Replies: 7
Views: 3073

Re: Whalers in PNW - Puget Sound

I have been in Puget Sound a lot. Wind against current makes steep waves, a lot of debris in the water. Logs, excetera. Keep your eyes open.
by msirof2001
Wed May 23, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Yamaha V8 425-HP 5.6-liter Direct-injection Engine
Replies: 8
Views: 2154

Re: Yamaha V8 425-HP 5.6-liter Direct-injection Engine

Would be interesting to put one of these on a 1993-1997 OUTRAGE 24. Max HP rating is 400, this is 425. Orange County, CA Sheriff in Newport Harbor has the commercial version of the OUTRAGE 24 with twin Yamaha F200XB engines. The F200XB is over 480lbs. Twin F200 XBs is not far from the weight of the ...
by msirof2001
Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:34 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Name on side of the boat
Replies: 14
Views: 3852

Re: Name on side of the boat

I like a clean look. Just the Whaler logo and stripe. All should be red. A non-red Whaler logo and stripe, to me is like a Philly Cheese Steak without Cheez-Whiz. I personally, like Forrest Gump, named my boat after the love of my life. I put the name on the stern. This is very opinionated, my opini...
by msirof2001
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:54 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
Replies: 22
Views: 4984

Re: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability

Below is a link to an article about the Orange County Sheriff (Newport Beach) boats. https://www.ocregister.com/2014/02/19/modern-patrol-fleet-additions-hit-the-water/ I see these sheriff boats in Newport all the time. Very slick. Notable difference, the commercial version have a 125-gallon fuel tan...
by msirof2001
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:37 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
Replies: 22
Views: 4984

Re: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability

I extensively studied that hull. In late 1994, I purchased a 1995 OUTRAGE 21 which was also a Van Lancker hull. I had a certain budget and every which way I looked at it, I couldn't afford the 24. My OUTRAGE 21 was great in the ocean. The OUTRAGE 24 has yet a deeper hull. The OUTRAGE 24 dry-weight i...
by msirof2001
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:07 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2003 Yamaha F225 with 900 Hours
Replies: 7
Views: 2691

Re: 2003 Yamaha F225 with 900 Hours

As an aside, I wanted to add that the early 2000's Grady White 265 Express is an admirable boat. An exceptional cockpit and transom for fishing. Very deep-V hull. If I recall you are Pacific Northwest, and that boat is perfect for that area. I personally would put twin Yamaha 250 4.2 liter four-cycl...
by msirof2001
Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:55 am
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna
Replies: 4
Views: 3234

Re: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna

I had a 1995 OUTRAGE 21 from October, 1994 - May, 2017. I kept it at a dry-stack where they covered-and-uncovered the boat, launched the boat, and stowed it. They replaced the VHF antenna a few times over the years, usually because the weight of the cover on the antenna at a wrong angle. When I orde...
by msirof2001
Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:08 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2018 170 Montauk Prices
Replies: 17
Views: 5383

Re: 2018 170 Montauk Prices

Seems like they're trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Downright arrogant. I know there is less flexibility on price with smaller models but still, this doesn't seem right. I just purchased an Everglades 295cc and I got a great deal. Besides Everglades, there are a whole bunch of other...
by msirof2001
Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:59 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: BOATING Magazine Tests 240 DAUNTLESS PRO
Replies: 2
Views: 1980

Re: BOATING Magazine Tests 240 DAUNTLESS PRO

How did the "Weight as tested" compare between the Boston Whaler test and the Boating Magazine test? I often find manufacturer's performance reports to be on the optimistic side. For example, minimal fuel, one or two people, very little extra gear. Oftentimes, the tests are performed on fl...
by msirof2001
Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Oregon Buoy 10 Boat Collision
Replies: 5
Views: 3853

Re: Oregon Buoy 10 Boat Collision

jimh wrote: Apparently the collision occurred last year (perhaps in September 2017) but the posting of the video has stirred up interest in it.


August 12, 2017 (The Oregonian)
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-north ... jumps.html

Gives me chills to watch.
by msirof2001
Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: ICOM IC-M605 VHF DSC Radio
Replies: 1
Views: 2496

Re: ICOM IC-M605 VHF DSC Radio

When I sold my 1995 Whaler 21 OUTRAGE and got the Everglades 295cc in mid-2017, I decided to go with this exact radio, the ICOM IC-M605 VHF DSC. On the Whaler, I had a 1995 President by Uniden and that was fine. This ICOM radio is in a whole other world in comparison. I purchased an 8-foot Comrod VH...
by msirof2001
Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: NYC, Boston and Miami Boat Shows
Replies: 2
Views: 1439

Re: NYC, Boston and Miami Boat Shows

Will you be at any of the So Cal shows? LA (Fairplex), Fred Hall, San Diego Sunroad?
by msirof2001
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: The Market for Outboard Engine Re-powering
Replies: 15
Views: 4980

Re: The Market for Outboard Engine Re-powering

Good analysis. Another thing I noticed, and around the time you mention, is the reduction in fuel tank capacities. The four-stroke-power-cycle outboard engines, even the ones of the 2002-2005 era had better fuel economy than the two-stroke-power-cycle outboard engines of the late 1990's - early 2000...
by msirof2001
Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:33 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outboard Engines: Rebuild or Buy New
Replies: 11
Views: 4051

Re: Outboard Engines: Rebuild or Buy New

Not to mention, and it's hard to imagine in boating, but if green is your thing, re-building is fa-a-a-r greener and more socially responsible than discarding-and-then-contributing to a market for all the wasted resources it takes to create something new--even after accounting for newer technology'...
by msirof2001
Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Boat Insurance
Replies: 13
Views: 4117

Re: Boat Insurance

I use BoatUS and they underwrite through Geico. After shopping around, I found nobody I inquired could match the coverage and price of BoatUS. As for towing, I use BoatUS TowBoatUS which used to be Vessel Assist. I have the Unlimited Gold which is their highest coverage in my area. With Unlimited Go...
by msirof2001
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey
Replies: 14
Views: 4722

Re: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey

With my 1995 21 OUTRAGE, fishing with 4 people was fine but definitely any more than that was tight. I like the Ventura and it is good for fishing too. If you are fishing for game species like larger Tuna, Jacks and Billfish, the ability to circle around the deck of the boat is better with the OUTRA...
by msirof2001
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:33 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey
Replies: 14
Views: 4722

Re: Whaler for Fishing and Water Skiing Near Sandy Hook, New Jersey

With my 1995 21 OUTRAGE, which has the same hull for model years 1993 through 1997, this boat was perfect for fishing in the ocean and with four people. It was ideal. I owned it from 1994 through 2017. Between 4,000 and 5,000 hours on the ocean. My experience is that you need a V-hull in order to co...
by msirof2001
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:08 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Possible Purchase 1996 21’ Outrage
Replies: 13
Views: 4419

Re: Possible Purchase 1996 21’ Outrage

I went to Yacht World and saw four similar boats in the $16000 to $18000 range. This one seems to be in good condition. I noticed the ice chest cooler behind the seats. And I also noticed that there's some kind of a box or contraption in front of the center console where the ice chest was originally...
by msirof2001
Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Possible Purchase 1996 21’ Outrage
Replies: 13
Views: 4419

Re: Help with new possible purchase 96 21’ Outrage

I owned a 1995 OUTRAGE 21. I purchased it new in October 1994 and owned it 23 years until earlier this year when I purchased an Everglades 295cc. I put at least 4000 hours on the ocean in Southern California. This is a great boat. This hull is the same for 1993 to 1997 year models. It is a dry ride....
by msirof2001
Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:50 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Boat State Registration
Replies: 8
Views: 2550

Re: Boat State Registration

I'm a CPA but know little about Sales & Use tax, State and Local tax but I do know enough to advise you not to assume or guess about anything related to this. Find a local tax person that you trust, use that advice, don't play with matches with taxing authorities.
by msirof2001
Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:00 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outboard Engines: Rebuild or Buy New
Replies: 11
Views: 4051

Re: Outboard Engines: Rebuilt or Buy New

My principal reason for moving away from the older two-stroke-power-cycle outboard engine was the heavy smelly smoke it generated. A major part of the time I spend on the water is fishing. When fishing and not anchored, the drag created by the lower unit and propeller in the water would cause the bo...
by msirof2001
Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:02 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 2002 290 OUTRAGE Re-power
Replies: 4
Views: 2090

Re: 2002 290 OUTRAGE Re-power

My 2017 Everglades 295CC has twin Yamaha F300 engines. The dry-stack I store the boat at weighed it (with engines and half-full fuel tank) at 8,900-lbs. I took it out on smooth seas last week with four adults and four kids. I estimated weight of people and carry-on stuff at 1,000 lbs. Call it 10,000...
by msirof2001
Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:40 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1992 21 Outrage Re-power
Replies: 3
Views: 2096

Re: 1992 21 Outrage Re-power

Your boat is the same as mine was. The Outrage 21 from 1993 to 1997 had a minimum horsepower rating of 150, maximum 300. I re-powered to a Yamaha F200XB and loved it. I posted all details about the re-power, and performance stats. I got great mileage stats, and really good performance. I hope this h...
by msirof2001
Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:24 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Need for Bottom Paint for Three Months in Saltwater
Replies: 4
Views: 1794

Re: Need for Bottom Paint for Three Months in Saltwater

For Boston Whaler's thoughts about the necessity of bottom paint, see http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/manual9-17/maintenance.html#bottom I would add one thought... Some marinas, local municipalities, etc., may have regulations or restrictions on the type of anti-fouling paint that can be...
by msirof2001
Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Boston Whaler introduces the REALM
Replies: 4
Views: 2196

Re: Boston Whaler introduces the REALM

Further boosting my confidence in making my recent decision to buy an Everglades. I don't know where to start on this one. To me, [the 350 REALM] looks lopsided. And looks like [Boston Whaler] shuffled the architectural drawings from the Outrage and Conquest like two decks of cards into one and then...
by msirof2001
Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:28 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Make a Guess About New Boats
Replies: 6
Views: 2694

Re: Make a Guess About New Boats

Speculation? How about this one that tops the Yamaha engine speculation in the previous post? Here goes... They buy Everglades and replace all of the Outrages with the Everglades center consoles (keeping them Yamaha) and therefore having Daugherty built battlewagons back in their Outrage line. There...