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by timf
Thu Dec 15, 2016 2:48 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Towing 170 Montauk with Ford Escape
Replies: 9
Views: 6807

Re: Towing 170 Montauk with Ford Escape

I'd suggest hydraulic surge brakes on the trailer to increase safety. We tow ours with a Toyota Tundra and Subaru Outback. Especially with the lighter Subaru or if you need to suddenly stop, the brakes are a benefit. The best configuration for this type setup is to have the vehicle reverse lights wi...
by timf
Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:14 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Fuel Tank Capacity of 190 and 170 MONTAUK
Replies: 7
Views: 6731

Re: Fuel Tank Capacity of 190 and 170 MONTAUK

I have a Montauk 170 with a 22 gallon tank. http://www.easternmarine.com/moeller-22-gal-boston-whaler-above-deck-fuel-tank-031626br Unless you plan on only frequent short trips, I'd recommended it for that boat. It is more convenient and gives the option of greater ranges without needing to deal wit...
by timf
Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:02 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 2008 Montauk 170 Re-power
Replies: 16
Views: 11240

Re: 2008 Montauk 170 Re-power

The restriction or limitation on the power output from the 2.1-liter displacement engine in the 90-FOURSTROKE model is probably intentional in order that the 90-HP version have less power output that the 115 ProXS version using the same 2.1-liter block. Yes, this is definitely a good part of it. Th...
by timf
Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:27 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: MONTAUK: Custom Split Bow Rail
Replies: 3
Views: 5677

Re: MONTAUK: Custom Split Bow Rail

A little different boat, but I have split bow rails on a Montauk 170 and think they are great. It makes getting over the bow off a trailer, beach, etc. very easy.

http://media.channelblade.com/boat_graphics/electronic_brochure/company94/OFUM_11609595.jpg
by timf
Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:52 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: NMEA output for 2007 Verado?
Replies: 4
Views: 4123

Re: NMEA output for 2007 Verado?

This (VesselView) may be another option for a gateway. I used the VesselView 4 with a different Mercury engine and it provides a gateway function between SmartCraft and a NMEA 2000 network.

https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/gau ... esselview/
by timf
Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:52 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank
Replies: 23
Views: 16717

Re: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank

The tank has some type of coating on the inside. It is a brown color and can be seen when the cap is off. I was assuming it was to help stop vapors through the walls, but likely adds some strength as well...
by timf
Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:40 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Re: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power

I talked to Mercury Support today March 29, 2016 and while the tech said they could not consult on modifications to engines, there was more involved than just the ECM in the differences between the engines. I said CAM shaft differences not just part number differences. I got an uhuh, (YES) response...
by timf
Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:33 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank
Replies: 23
Views: 16717

Re: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank

This is Mercury's way of getting people to but their brand of accessory portable tank. Any EPA compliant marine portable fuel tank will work. JM3 - Using the phrase "I was told...." without stating who the person was that told it is a sure sign the information should be highly discounted....
by timf
Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:03 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank
Replies: 23
Views: 16717

Re: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank

This discusses the 'fuel demand valve' (do-hicky)

https://www.quicksilver-products.com/en ... uel-tanks/
by timf
Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:52 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank
Replies: 23
Views: 16717

Re: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank

I've been told that my Mercury 90 FOURSTROKE BASED ON 2.1-LITER won't run properly without the new EPA venting do-hicky as found on the standard 6 gallon fuel tanks. Does this new vent come standard on the Moeller tank? No extra vent came with the Moeller EPA rated tank. I used the venting do-hicky...
by timf
Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:33 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Engine Choice in 115-HP
Replies: 11
Views: 14663

Re: Engine Choice in 115-HP

This is a nice engine and great improvements over the previous. As far as I know, it has been out for a while. A bit over a year now. The 75-HP, 90-HP, and 115-HP use the same 2.1 L displacement block. There are only minor differences among the three, such as air restriction, cam, and ECU programming.
by timf
Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:14 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank
Replies: 23
Views: 16717

Re: Moeller 22-gallon On-deck Fuel Tank

Correct - I have the brackets screwed into just the deck (no wood), but I did bed the screws and brackets with 3M4200. After seven years of heavy and rough use, mostly water sports so a lot of stress with a full tank in quick turns - jumping on plane - wake jumping, ect, I have not had any problems...
by timf
Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:50 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Re: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power

Considering the EPA regulations that prohibit the tampering with any part of a regulated engine that can affect exhaust gas emission, it seems possible that you might not even be able to buy an ECM without demonstrating that you had the appropriate model engine for its use. Never tried such a thing...
by timf
Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:27 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

Two holes up seems to be the common recommendation.

I'm taking it out over the weekend and will try raising when I return.
by timf
Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:05 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

It is a Montauk 170 with a 90 HP Mercury 2.1L.

It has a Vengeance 13-1/8" x 16" prop.

42 mph is the fastest I have seen (GPS). I didn't note the RPM, but will next time I have a chance.
by timf
Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:47 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

Mine is at one hole up as came from the factory. I may try one more up and see how that goes.
by timf
Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:59 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

John - We also skied barefoot on the river when kids, but not competitively. Then got too worried about hitting a stick and started wearing tennis shoes. Much easier, but never did learn how to stop gracefully! Phil - I'll check RPMs next time out, but do think it was likely in the 5700-5800 range.
by timf
Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:51 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

I think you lost little if any significant top speed with the bigger gearbox. With a similar load, mine tops out at 42 MPH with the standard gearbox.

It has a Vengeance 13-1/8" x 16" prop from the factory.
by timf
Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:04 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

Yes, I was posing partly as a rhetorical question. I agree it would be very unlikely a manufacturer would give their rating process.

I was curious on this boat if others here see reasons for the limit other than the obvious marketing aspect.
by timf
Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:00 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

I'm currently re-powering a 2004 Montauk 170. I was leaning towards the Mercury 115 FOURSTROKE Command Thrust since it is the same footprint as the 90. I talked with an engineer at Boston Whaler, and he said the 90-HP would be the maximum for that boat. They do tests, and they have maximum ratings ...
by timf
Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:19 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust
Replies: 24
Views: 17982

Re: 170 MONTAUK Re-power with 115-HP Mercury Command Thrust

When I was looking at motors for the same boat, it seems that the recommendations were that is was best not to use the command thrust with it. That was since it was intended for heavier, or pontoon boats with its gear ratio. May be worth checking into unless you got different recommendations.
by timf
Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:55 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: The Marina Slip Puzzle
Replies: 9
Views: 8529

Re: The Marina Slip Puzzle

Assuming all the other 23 either went to their assigned slip or traded with the first guy if he had taken theirs, I'll say 50/50 odds...

If they all did what he did, odds would be much lower :)
by timf
Fri Oct 30, 2015 11:37 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount
Replies: 7
Views: 9293

Re: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount

I'll take a look for tray with suction cups. I was thinking about velcro, but like the suction cup idea better.

I do remove the chartplotter for security often. It gets stored in a Pelican model 1450 case for protection.

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by timf
Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:21 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount
Replies: 7
Views: 9293

Re: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount

Both posts above have good points about using the top of the console for storage. Mine has nothing there now and definitely things will slide around.

Some type of tray or a way to hold things in place would be a great help.
by timf
Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:32 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Re: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power

Good points!

I did read on the old forum a while back and lots of great information there. I agree I think [a Boston Whaler 170 MONTAUK boat] would handle [a Mercury 115-HP FOURSTROKE engine] fine, but the legal part seems pretty undefined from what I could find.

Thanks
by timf
Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:27 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Re: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power

I agree and like that option of swapping the motor as well. I'm guessing that might cost quite a bit, but maybe reasonable compared to the cost and added risk of modifying. I'm not planning to sell for a long time, but would the larger motor likely be seen as added value to some buyers and not other...
by timf
Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:32 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Power Saw
Replies: 37
Views: 30573

Re: Power Saw

I use a compound miter saw more often than a table saw, but the first project you have in mind might affect which you would get first. A table saw is much better for ripping, especially long pieces. If I were to buy a compound miter saw again, I'd stick with a 12" blade and the sliding type pow...
by timf
Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:57 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount
Replies: 7
Views: 9293

Re: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount

thanks! The reasons I mounted it there included: - preferred not to cut a hole in the top console panel and to make cable routing easier - this is easier to rotate, where the standard bracket is made to be fixed - wanted to leave console top open for possible future use - with current position it si...
by timf
Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:16 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount
Replies: 7
Views: 9293

Console mounting chartplotter with a RAM Mount

I decided to mount a chart plotter using a Ram Mount (1.5" ball) brand mount to give some versatility. I wanted to show a few pictures here. This is on a Montauk 170 and using a Garmin 741xs and could be done in different ways for other configurations. It can easily be adjusted for different an...
by timf
Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:38 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Re: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power

I agree, that would be too easy. It looks like the parts would be ~$600 to buy the 115 HP version of the ECM and cam. I'd be tempted to do it if the engine were older, but not sure about opening up a perfectly working engine less than a year old. The timing chain is on the bottom of the head, which ...
by timf
Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:25 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Re: Increasing horse power of Mercury 90 Fourstroke

Looking closely at the parts diagrams, it appears more than the ECM would be needed to convert a 90 into a 115. There are different air restrictor and camshaft part numbers. I'm guessing the cam is actually different having unique part numbers.
by timf
Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:12 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power
Replies: 20
Views: 34272

Mercury 90 Fourstroke: Increasing Power

Any experience or suggestions out there for increasing power output of a Mercury 90 FOURSTROKE made in 2015? It is the 2.1 liter version of the motor. https://www.mercurymarine.com/en/us/engines/outboard/fourstroke/75-115-hp/ From what I can find, the control module is the only difference between th...