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by Acseatsri
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:13 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300
Replies: 32
Views: 564

Re: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300

The video shows it was something with the lower unit, at under a year old is what I think I heard. At least it was under warranty and a failure so early tells me it was a freak thing. As far as I know, Yamaha's have a very good reputation for reliability. It is too bad the E-TEC problems took years...
by Acseatsri
Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:14 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300
Replies: 32
Views: 564

Re: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300

""It was for the prop but I do find value in hearing about others with problems, solidifying my thoughts on the motor. I'm in debate of selling it when I take it off or just sending it to the junkyard so as to not put anyone else thru the pain of an E-TEC. It might be worth the mental comf...
by Acseatsri
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:47 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300
Replies: 32
Views: 564

Re: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300

biggiefl wrote:How did they blow up a $30k F300, they don't cost $30k. If they do, I can get a 300 Suzuki installed for under $20k.

Actually, they do cost pretty close to 30k. My friend's repower cost $27k last year without new controls. Add sales tax and you're close to 30k.
by Acseatsri
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300
Replies: 32
Views: 564

Re: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300

I wasn't a third party when my 225 Etec threw a rod at 1100 hours. I have quite a few friends whose Etecs have thrown rods at far less hours. Just recently an Etec 135HO at my dock threw a rod at 780 hours. The service shop where it's at has four of them waiting for new powerheads. So yes, I have fi...
by Acseatsri
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:45 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300
Replies: 32
Views: 564

Re: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300

The Powertech is available with a cushion-lok hub. I have it, does the same thing. But I would stay with the 4 blade due to its stern lifting properties. And I think it holds plane better at lower speeds, very desirable when running 100 plus miles offshore. Agree with you on the AP, I have one too. ...
by Acseatsri
Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300
Replies: 32
Views: 564

Re: 1988 Outrage 22 WD Re-power Yamaha F300

From my experience, you are probably losing 3 to 4-MPH if the bottom is as rough as you describe. You'd be amazed how much that is costing you. The 40 gallon bait tank near the stern isn't helping any either. I had a 26 gallon bait tank in front of the console along with two batteries in the console...
by Acseatsri
Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:21 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: MONTAUK Fuel Tank, Fuel Hoses for E-TEC
Replies: 15
Views: 502

Re: MONTAUK Fuel Tank, Fuel Hoses for E-TEC

I second the recommendation for the white Moeller 22 gallon tank. It fits perfectly under the RPS and because it's white, doesn't generate a lot of heat or expansion when the sun beats on it. I don't think the water separating filter is necessary, but if you decide on one, place the primer bulb BEFO...
by Acseatsri
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Illuminated Power Control Switches
Replies: 6
Views: 415

Re: Illuminated Power Control Switches

An instance where the switch can have power but the light doesn't illuminate would be if there is a loose or no ground to the switch. The ground on the switch's only purpose is for the light.
by Acseatsri
Sat May 16, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 2000 Outrage 21 HONDA 250
Replies: 10
Views: 1070

Re: 2000 Outrage 21 HONDA 250

The Honda 250 has a 2:1 gear ratio and a 5300 to 6300 RPM [full-throttle] operating range. The suggested operating range is 2,500 to 4,500-RPM. I rarely run my 2013 250 Honda above 4,500-RPM as the fuel mileage drops off appreciably above that. I would think you could turn a 21" pitch. I'm runn...
by Acseatsri
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Source for Marine Cushions, Fire Extinguisher Pocket, Sidelight Lamp
Replies: 1
Views: 423

Source for Marine Cushions, Fire Extinguisher Pocket, Sidelight Lamp

In 2019 I restored a 1982 Montauk. I bought ⋅ seat cushions, ⋅ a combined sidelight lamp, ⋅ a fire extinguisher pocket, and ⋅ front cushions with rod holders from Specialty Marine. All were top quality,. The combined sidelight lamp and chock assembly was made ...
by Acseatsri
Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Circular saw blade
Replies: 2
Views: 529

Re: Circular saw blade

If you're using a 7 1/4" Skilsaw, I'd use a 60T carbide blade. Use a straightedge to guide the saw, cutting with the good side of the plywood down. If using a 10" table saw, try a 60 or 80T blade, cutting with the good side UP. Important that the blade is sharp and not wobbling.
by Acseatsri
Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:35 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Walkaround 21 Seats
Replies: 6
Views: 652

Re: Walkaround 21 Seats

A 21 WA isn't a good boat for a leaning post.it would block access to the cabin.
by Acseatsri
Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive

[Because the SUZUKI DF300 has an] additional 50-HP, a lower 2.08:1 gear ratio, [and a recommend full-throttle speed range of 5,700 to] 6,300 [RPM at full throttle], a 19- or 20-pitch propeller might work. I think [buying a SUZUKI DF300 engine is] a great choice. If you could buy two new Suzuki DF140...
by Acseatsri
Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

SUZUKI was the first brand to drop all two-stroke-power-cycle engines. Honda has never made a 2 stroke. I agree that Suzuki engine are a great engine at an attractive price, and I especially like the lower gearcase ratios and larger propeller apertures that they employ to allow larger props to be r...
by Acseatsri
Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

I'm interested to know why the lubrication supply to the wrist pin on your ETEC failed. If the cause is determined there must be a remedy available. In my experience single point lubrication loss is most often caused by a supply blockage. Supply blockage is most often caused by foreign material in ...
by Acseatsri
Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

I would not be buying an engine from that place [i.e., Mohegan Sun, as mentioned above]. I can get a new 140-HP in the $8,000-range The 150-HP engines go for around $10,000, and a 200-HP for under $12,000. Mohegan Sun is a casino that has a boat show going on this weekend. Since I wasn't in the mar...
by Acseatsri
Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:52 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

jimh wrote:
Jefecinco wrote:I'm interested to know why the lubrication supply to the wrist pin on your E-TEC failed.


Maybe the lubricating oil was not very good lubricating oil.


[The lubricating oil used was] XD100.
by Acseatsri
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

Jim,
How many of those boats have over 1000 hours on them? Do you even have 500 on your engine?
by Acseatsri
Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:55 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

Yes, I looked at the Suzuki's today at the Mohegan Sun. The 140 is about $11 to 12,000, the 350 is roughly $26 to 28,000. They've been building the 140 since c.1997, he says the 350 has been around for five years and has a lot of them in the field. I've yet to see one anywhere on any boat in my area...
by Acseatsri
Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:07 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

This thread has intrigued me since I will be re-powering a FRONTIER with twin Evinrude legacy E-TEC 150-HP engines in a few months. The dealers have said the lower power outboards have better reliability than the 250 to 300-HP outboards. There seems to be lots of brand loyalty talking. To see quant...
by Acseatsri
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:20 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

My father was on a charter out of Seward AK a few years ago and one of the Yamaha 300's threw a rod. Last year on a charter out of Valdez AK another Yamaha 300 threw a rod. At 80+ miles out limping home on 1 engine doing 9 knots isn't fun. I am curious to learn actual costs/hr of the Etec vs 4 stro...
by Acseatsri
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:36 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

I'm not brand loyal to any specific manufacturer. I would probably put Suzuki at the top of my list due to cost, followed by Honda due to personal experience, followed by Yamaha. The reason Yamaha didn't get a higher billing was due to past corrosion problems and how they DIDN'T square it with the v...
by Acseatsri
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

My [E-TEC 225-HP engine] blew at 1,100 hours, the highest known hours I've seen on an original powerhead... I have seen E-TEC engines in commercial service with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers run well over 1,700-hours without any failures back in 2010. I am sure there are many E-TEC engines with ...
by Acseatsri
Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions
Replies: 10
Views: 1178

Re: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions

I agree [that no further discussion is possible].

I really can't see what effect geometry has on diameter.

Maybe someone else can jump in and explain it better.
by Acseatsri
Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround Whaler Drive
Replies: 46
Views: 10116

Re: Re-powering 1992 23 Walkaround

When I bought my 1993 23 WALKAROUND with notched transom, I replaced the [twin] 150-HP engines with a a single Honda BF250. The maximum boat speed lost about 6-MPH, but boat fuel mileage pretty much doubled. Running a Powertech OFS4 17-pitch four-blade propeller, the boat hits 39-MPH at full throttl...
by Acseatsri
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:18 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions
Replies: 10
Views: 1178

Re: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions

I'll buy that rake can result in a larger blade surface area, but the inscribed circle or DIAMETER is still the same. Your drawing makes no sense.
by Acseatsri
Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions
Replies: 10
Views: 1178

Re: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions

What difference does rake matter to the diameter? It's still going to cast the same diameter shadow whether the blades are raked or not. There's no "implied diameter " based on the geometry, it's either 15" or whatever the dimension is or isn't, I have no clue what you're talking abou...
by Acseatsri
Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:43 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions
Replies: 10
Views: 1178

Re: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions

I measure diameter as twice the distance from the centerline of the hub to the tip of the prop. This distance never changes whether the blades are swept back or not. Hence, the volume of water displaced will never be larger than the footprint of the diameter of the prop. The velocity will change wit...
by Acseatsri
Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:08 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Propeller Geometry and Dimensions
Replies: 10
Views: 1178

Propeller Geometry and Dimensions

Also, the smaller diameter dimension for the CYCLONE 4 propeller is mostly due to the blades being raked aft. If the blades on the CYCLONE were not raked, then the diameter of the propeller would be larger. I don't buy this. The thrust would tend to fall off the end of the blades soooner on the sma...
by Acseatsri
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Comparing Four-bladed and Three-bladed Propellers
Replies: 3
Views: 921

Comparing Four-bladed and Three-bladed Propellers

[Separated from a discussion about test data I posted from using a three-bladed and a four-bladed propeller of different diameters .--jimh] [To see test data resulting for a test in which] the four-bladed propeller tested was the same or close to the same diameter as the three-bladed propeller would...
by Acseatsri
Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:55 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Loose Deck Under Console
Replies: 9
Views: 1115

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Loose Deck Under Console

I would be wary of trying to inject epoxy with the floor in place. All it would take would be a little overflow to get between the floor and the hull to pretty much permanently stick it together. That would probably solve the flexibility problem, but I wouldn't want to have to pull up the cover agai...
by Acseatsri
Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Loose Deck Under Console
Replies: 9
Views: 1115

Re: 1989 OUTRAGE 22 Loose Deck Under Console

You'll probably find that the wood under the deck that the tank cavity cover screws into is rotted. I removed the deck, then drilled out the holes with a 3/4-hole hole saw, then went in at angles to created a void larger at the bottom than the top, also scraping foam off the underside of the glass t...
by Acseatsri
Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:21 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1996 21 Outrage Soft Transom Repair
Replies: 10
Views: 1369

Re: 1996 21 Outrage Soft Transom Repair

About 10 years ago someone at my marina [used the product Seacast to repair the transom of] an old Grady-White. [The transom of "an old Grady-White" was] hollowed out with an electric chain saw, cleaned, dried out, and [the product Seacast was] poured [into the newly created void in the ol...
by Acseatsri
Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: Appraisal: 1985 Guardian 17
Replies: 20
Views: 2234

Re: Appraisal: 1985 Guardian 17

I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole unless you can find another hull in worse condition that you can cannibalize for the missing parts. Trying to buy all the missing parts will be time consuming finding used or expensive if buying from Specialty Marine. It might be worth more to a marina as a b...
by Acseatsri
Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: New purchase: 1991 Walkaround 21
Replies: 16
Views: 1917

Re: New purchase: 1991 Walkaround 21

Just my opinion from my and about 7 other owners experiences and an Etec mechanic, but Etecs with more than 600 hours are ticking time bombs. I'm the only one in the group that made it to 1000 hrs (1100 actually) before grenading. Most blew in less than 800 hours with 3 failures at less than 700 hou...
by Acseatsri
Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: New purchase: 1991 Walkaround 21
Replies: 16
Views: 1917

Re: New purchase: 1991 Walkaround 21

The 21 [Walkaround] is a very stern-heavy boat, so weight should be kept to a minimum. Most came rigged with a 175-HP that weighed about 380-lbs. A 250-HP will push it to just under 50-MPH. With a 150-HP the boat speed will be 37 or 38-MPH. On mine I had both a 150-HP and a 250-HP. The 250 was too h...
by Acseatsri
Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: SURVEY of Multi-function Display Choice
Replies: 6
Views: 1433

SURVEY of Multi-function Display Choice

A little survey: Q1: what brand and model multi-function display do you have? Q2: are you happy with it? Q3: if you had the opportunity for a do-over, would you make the same choice? My answers to my own survey: A1: I have Lowrance HDS for 5 years and Live series this season. A2: they're decent A3: ...
by Acseatsri
Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Boats In Dealer's Yard
Replies: 7
Views: 2722

Boats In Dealer's Yard

I made this interesting observation today: I went by the local Evinrude dealer. For 15 years he has had yard full of boats for sale with E-TEC engines. Today he had yard full of new boats powered by Yamaha engine, and there wasn't a new boat powered by E-TEC in sight. Evinrude is only selling [legac...
by Acseatsri
Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Cooler Size for MONTAUK 17
Replies: 6
Views: 10553

Re: Cooler Size for MONTAUK 17

Might also want to check out an RTIC 65 quart cooler if looking for higher quality and better insulation.
by Acseatsri
Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1971 16-footer 110-HP OMC V4
Replies: 23
Views: 13712

Re: 1971 16-footer 110-HP OMC V4

The hard steering in one direction could also be caused by the engine [steering] tab being improperly adjusted. If it's hard turning to [port], the [trailing edge of the steering] tab should be moved more to [port].
by Acseatsri
Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1983 Montauk 17 Re-fastening RPS to Deck
Replies: 13
Views: 10298

Re: 1983 Montauk 17 Re-fastening RPS to Deck

I used 2 layers of 2" polyethylene to raise the rps on a 1982 Montauk. By layering it, I was able to double up on the screws holding the seat to the deck. Pretty sure your seat is only 15" high for that year as well, but they also made 18" high legs as well. It's a lot more comfortabl...
by Acseatsri
Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1984 Outrage 22 Re-power 2005 E-TEC E225
Replies: 8
Views: 6996

Re: 1984 Outrage 22 Re-power 2005 E-TEC E225

It's not how old [an outboard engine] is, it's how many hours on [the outboard engine]. Most of the people I know put well in excess of 100 hours a year, at least double what the average user does, so failures show up In less than 10-years. Most failures occur between 600 to 1000 hours. I'll bet the...
by Acseatsri
Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:03 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1984 Outrage 22 Re-power 2005 E-TEC E225
Replies: 8
Views: 6996

Re: 1984 Outrage 22 Re-power 2005 E-TEC E225

My 2006 225 Etec blew at 1100 hours. A friend has 2 2007 250 Etecs, 1st power head blew at 600, second at 680 hours. Also blew 3 gear cases until changed out to M2 gear cases. He HATES them but can't afford to get rid of them. Another friend just had 2 2013 250 Etecs replaced with 300 Suzuki's on hi...
by Acseatsri
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 18 Keel Guard
Replies: 7
Views: 5033

Re: Outrage 18 Keel Guard

If you don't have to re-apply gel coat over the patch, epoxy provides a stronger bond than polyester resin and is more forgiving to work with than the polyester. The other alternative would be to add a couple layers of 1708 biaxial fiberglass. 3 layers would add over 1/8" of protection. Cut the...
by Acseatsri
Fri May 17, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Montauk: Installing new mechanical steering
Replies: 2
Views: 3218

Re: Montauk: Installing new mechanical steering

The rod that goes through the tilt tube hits the transom; it seems to be too long to remove without removing the engine from the transom. I just replaced [the mechanical steering] on a 1982 Montauk. [The rod that is installed through the tilt tube] was [a] close [fit]; It rubbed on the transom a li...
by Acseatsri
Tue May 14, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Brass Drain Tube Repair
Replies: 5
Views: 5552

Re: Brass Drain Tube Repair

Re annealing brass drain tubes for flaring: I've found that the rapid quench method works well, is quick, and is easy. I heat the very end of the brass tube with a propane torch until the brass gets a little redness. Then I drop the brass tube in a bucket of water. I absolutely recommend annealing i...
by Acseatsri
Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: MONTAUK 17 with 90
Replies: 5
Views: 8516

MONTAUK 17 with 90

What propeller is best for a 1985 Yamaha 90 on a 1982 MONTAUK 17?

What is the approximate top speed with a 1985 Yamaha 90?

ASIDE ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TOPIC:
Should a 1982 Montauk 17 have a clamshell over the anchor locker drain tube? It doesn't appear that this boat has ever had one in place.
by Acseatsri
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:02 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Four-blade and Three-blade Propeller
Replies: 30
Views: 28687

Re: Four-blade and Three-blade Propeller

You can post all the graphs and arguments you want, but the fact is that everyone here, with the exception of Jim, who has tested a four blade prop ended up with the 4 blade for the same stated reasons. In fact, Jim said that ,in the end, the additional cost of the 4 blade did not justify the purcha...
by Acseatsri
Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: GLOBAL NAVIGATION SATELLITE SYSTEMS
Topic: GPS Week Rollover Is Coming in April 2019
Replies: 23
Views: 18146

Re: GPS Week Rollover Is Coming in April 2019

[Gave a a second-hand report that a] Lowrance Gen 2 multi-function display with internal GPS receiver did not get a position fix on April 8, 2019.
by Acseatsri
Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Montauk 17 Steering Cable
Replies: 1
Views: 2599

Montauk 17 Steering Cable

What is the length of a steering cable for a MONTAUK 17?