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[Posted a link to an offer in southern California for a government property disposal of a 25 FRONTIER. Although the OP did not specify a range or distance from Maine, I suspect that 2,000-miles might be too far to go to look at a boat--jimh]

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What type of loctite will you use to fill the holes in the wood? I probably wouldn’t use liquid nails but would use thickened epoxy. More speedy but it will have a better bond. Liquid nails will hold the wood fine until it’s glassed if you’re on a tight budget.

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I was able to do some more work on the deck lids today. Most of the time was spent grinding the underside of the top skin. The areas where an inspection port was molded needed the most grinding. Some fiberglass repair on the forward most lid where a thin flange was molded was also done. 11a.jpg 12a....

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Since it has been getting good praise, I ordered PC-7 and may use of it on my Frontier project.

If the aluminum was acid etched would adhesion be better?

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I think having the left side built like a tray would be better than a full dash spanning the cabin. The forward "V" shaped section makes it a difficult area to work with so I'm thinking a tray would be better than a glove box. I could mock something up and see if it looks right and makes a...

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I started mocking up the new dash yesterday. So far this is just the right hand side. I’ll start the left side when I can get to it. When I get it mocked up I’ll epoxy it together and start making fillets with thickened epoxy and start sanding. Then it’ll be time to glass and fair the dash insert an...

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A Mercury 9.9 on my SENTRY 19 pushed the boat to 6-MPH; a 9.9-HP is plenty for most areas as a secondary engine. An auxiliary engine weight of 100-lbs didn't seem to affect the balance too much because of a battery placement. The auxiliary engine was mounted on the Port side. On the Starboard side I...

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I have been looking at a couple Frontiers for the same purpose, family cruiser. What should I be aware of when inspecting a Frontier? I would be using the boat mostly in bays in Maine, sometimes offshore. Also, how do they trailer and launch? My experince is with an older Mako 20, I am curious as h...

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I am somewhat amazed that you could separate the wood backing reinforcement from the fiberglass molded deck sections, leaving the wood apparently very intact. The bond between the wood and the fiberglass deck must not have been very strong, and the wood must have been in reasonably good shape in or...

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After acquiring a 1986 FRONTIER 25 from the East Coast the plans were set in motion to get it to Anchorage Alaska. Trailering it on the Alcan in November proved to be all sorts of fun and exciting. The boat and trailer made it with only one tire casualty. The FRONTIER 25 has been stripped of most ri...

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The Sentry 19 I had would not since its around 4000 lbs (guesstimating). Some other 19ft models just barely would work. Your tire tread will tell the real story if the wear is on the inside of the tire then the tires are splaying out too much.

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I restored a Sentry 19ft and it did great crossing from Dana Point to Catalina Island a few years ago in 4ft waves plus swell. Did the crossing in a little over 2 hours. The Sentry is basically an outrage hull with a 4 panel wrap around windshield. With a 19ft boat you'd most likely have a tandem ax...

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My father was on a charter out of Seward AK a few years ago and one of the Yamaha 300's threw a rod. Last year on a charter out of Valdez AK another Yamaha 300 threw a rod. At 80+ miles out limping home on 1 engine doing 9 knots isn't fun. I am curious to learn actual costs/hr of the Etec vs 4 strok...

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This thread has intrigued me since I will be re-powering a FRONTIER with twin Evinrude legacy E-TEC 150-HP engines in a few months. The dealers have said the lower power outboards have better reliability than the 250 to 300-HP outboards. There seems to be lots of brand loyalty talking. To see quanti...

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Good plan on replacing instead of repairing. Some shops have liability waivers but I'm not sure that those would do a bit of good in today's litigious society. There is a wrap used to keep rust controlled called petro wrap. https://www.amazon.com/Petrowrap-Anti-Corrosion-Tape-2-x33/dp/B079BVG64Q Its...

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Depending on the pressure that the pump produces do not use hose clamps on the pressure hose. I work with high pressure hydraulic hoses all day at work and I can tell you for a fact that the crimp on that hose is not something you'll be able to duplicate using hose clamps. I tried looking up in the ...

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Thanks all for the replies. The trailer is being built in the lower 48 and the boat is currently in Anchorage AK area. The trailer it was on is undersized and the rear tires showed overloading and abnormal wear from the trek north. I like the idea of having the boat movable fore and aft to get a pro...

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I am currently having a trailer built for a 1986 Frontier 25. It'll be a tandem axle with each axle over-rated for load. With regard to the center of gravity of the boat with engines and full fuel: at what hull station is the approximate center of gravity? This is needed to get proper tongue loading...

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While I know nothing of the emission regulations I am amazed by the innovation coming from companies regarding outboards. 7 Marine being one of those companies. Taking a GM LS engine and converting it to outboard that produces over 600 hp is amazing. I think there are a lot of innovations that have ...

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Thanks for the info. When I get the boat up here and pull the deck lid I'll see what I have to work with. I've welded my share of new fuel tanks so will have a fab shop do the cutting and bending then I'll do the welding and pressure checking. I can draw up the cad on the tank and post it here for f...

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Is there dimensional information on the fuel tank for the 1986 Frontier 25?

I wIll be receiving one soon and want to be prepared to replace the fuel tank since I think it's original.

I am also interested In learning of custom modifications in the cabin to increase seating.

Thank you,

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I am no longer looking. Moderator, you can remove post if you like.
Thanks,

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I have an opportunity to buy a 27ft whaler but it doesn’t come with the trailer. New York area. I live in Anchorage Alaska now so it’s a huge logistics challenge. Does anyone know of one available for a reasonable price?

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Thanks Phil, At ~$3K for me removing the powerhead and sending it off, putting it back on and only one year warranty on just the powerhead, there are a few more things to consider. One is replacing the injectors (not bad now but will fail sometime). With 6 air injectors, 6 fuel injectors, that adds ...

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I was thinking it would be best to rebore the cylinders .020" over and get new pistons, bearings, seals etc. I'm not sure about a top end overhaul since I don't know the conditions of the cylinder walls or the condition of the piston skirts. If there scuffs on piston skirts or grooves where the...

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I am getting ~70 psi compression on each cylinder. Hour meter is 1738 last time I ran it.

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Any update on this?

I may have to service the trim unit on my 2006 Mercury OptiMax engine sometime this winter.

Believe it or not, those pumps are made by Parker Oildyne. The stuff coming from their China manufacturing plant is usually pretty good.

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It has been a while since posting, mainly since restoring the 19ft Sentry. Things have been going quite well. So far the boat has been on Flaming Gorge dozens of times, and we trailered it to Dana Point, CA and fished around there and crossed to Catalina and back. Not too bad for my first ocean run....

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Thank you, That is a very informative reply. A 27ft Sentry recently went for ~$3300 in Miami on govdeals. https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=2155&acctid=7167 It would have been a bigger project than I would have wanted, but someday I might be adventurous enough to tackle ...

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After having a successful restoration of a 19ft Sentry, I find myself without a project and have been wondering about how people stay in the loop for when state/gov property goes up for auction. I would like to pick up another whaler project in the next year or so and have been keeping my eye out on...

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I currently own a 1998 Boston Whaler Sentry 19', and previously owned a 1993 Boston Whaler Sentry 22'. In my opinion the Sentry model is a rare find and well worth waiting for. The cost of replacement is difficult to calculate. As mentioned before they are no longer manufactured by Brunswick the co...

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For insurance purposes I am trying to get an idea of the replacement value for the 1995 19 Sentry that has been restored. There are not very many Sentry models out there but would like to get an idea of what y'all think. Here is the list of items on the boat: Motorguide Xi5 24V bow mounted trolling ...

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An allen wrench works well for coring out a "hard point" in the foam that can be filled with epoxy. I would recommend adding microbaloons to the epoxy so the screw has a bit of a place to give. I've had straight epoxy crack when the screw was installed. Cotton flock also works.

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You will have to do a little bit of mixing of epoxy or something. There is rapid set marine tex that you can google to find, or local hardware stores may have some marine epoxy made by loctite. It sets in 1-2 hours and is white-ish in color. A little trick I found for small nicks and dings that you ...

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Another concern: I noticed the discharge air from the air pump is not filtered. Is there any reason why filtering it would be a bad idea? Maybe an all aluminum or stainless filter with a condensate trap and viton seals? Seems like non-treated air leaving the pump and going to the injectors is a bad ...

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I have mostly finished the restoration on the 1995 Boston Whaler SENTRY 19. We took it out on July 3 and July 4, 2017. The [Mercury 150-HP OptiMax] engine would surge under 3000-RPM, and we only once got the boat on plane. After doing much googling, I narrowed down [the cause of the engine surging u...

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Its the Sentry 19ft. I am not sure about other Whalers but in my discussion with the supplier Viking Marine supplied a lot of OEM's. The PTL-6 is the 6" but the molded deck recess is about 9.75" IIRC. The PTL-8 is the 8" hatch but the molded deck recess is almost 12".

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For my 1995 SENTRY, the black deck hatches are cracked and worn out. I ordered white hatches from Viking Marine through Fore and Aft Marine. However, I was informed that Viking Marine closed their doors last week, and their model PTL-6 and the PTL-8 hatches are hard to come by. I was told that there...

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It does have a very strong nasty smell. When you are in the position to replace the tank I can get you hooked up with the guys that cut and bent the aluminum for mine. The material plus bending was ~$270.00. I welded it up but they also have certified welders, so if you want, I will get a quote for ...

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There are a few sealants that are gasoline proof that you may consider if needed. One was commonly called B-Half in the aerospace industry. Its a polysulfide 2 part sealant that is aviation gas proof. We used it to seal integral fuel tanks in aircraft wings. Ethanol will reduce its life so if at all...

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I have seen the episodes and while the body work is well done, the deck hatch being glassed down is a bad idea in my opinion. I figure its easier to cut silicone to get to the fuel tank than to have to grind or cut fiberglass to get to a fuel tank. I like the switches used (Bocatech) but at around $...

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What I will do is start a build thread so that I'm not hijacking this one.

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This shows the vacuum bag compressing the glass, as well as holding the deck flat against the concrete.

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Chicagediver; Directly below the hole drilled in the fuel tank and aft of that was the only places I found wet foam. I did pull the wet wood out of the transom so that allowed access to dig a tunnel and inspect for water. photo (15).JPG This photo shows refilling the inspection hole with 4 lb densit...

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Very neat. I am interested in seeing the pictures. Cudos for taking on a big project and finishing it. My 19ft Sentry was bought from a government auction and had been banged up a bit. When decommissioned they drilled a hole completely through the fuel tank and through the fiberglass cavity. Probabl...

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A light buffing compound and a buffing pad attached to a variable speed buffer should do the trick. It'll also remove gel coat oxidation. For the one off job or weekend warrior Harbor Freight tools will do fine.

https://www.harborfreight.com/power-too ... shers.html

All sorts of options out there.

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Thanks for letting me know, Jim.
Feel free to remove the photos and link to the other post's URL.

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Your 21 OUTRAGE [may be] like my 1995 SENTRY 19. I decided to pull the [fuel] tank because the foam surrounding the tank was wet with saltwater. I am glad I did because there was significant corrosion. [I hope] a boat that is 38-years-old has had the tank replaced at least once. While you're in ther...

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I guess I got lost in the sequence of things. Seems like rain is the most plausible culprit. Small amounts of rain over a large surface area equates to a lot of water. That much water getting into the tank is a probability. It is a possibility that the tank developed a pinhole, crack, or degraded ho...

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Have any other boats in the area complained about water in their tanks? Maybe the place you fueled up had bad gas?

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