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Tacky79

I think you need to walk the fine line between negotiating a good price and not alienating your local dealer. Whatever way you negotiate, just make it so that you don't offend the dealer for life, as you may need his help at some point for warranty. Along those lines, you could say "That's the ...

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My wife asked me today if we are moving the boat up to the inside storage facility for winter. I told her that I'm stubbornly keeping it in the driveway until we've exhausted all our opportunities to boat. Last year, that meant that I had to winterize it with my boys when it was 34 degrees and windy...

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The boat under discussion was offered at Beacon Marine in Sister Bay, Wisconsin. The asking price was around $21,000. Extremely clean. We looked at it, but didn't sea trial it. Ended up buyinga used Everglades dual console instead. We much preferred something with a T-top and more seating, so that w...

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This is an amazing site with a wealth of information. I continue to be impressed by the knowledge here!

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We have a 190 Montauk, and use it much the way you are thinking of using a 210 Montauk. We've fished 8 on board, and that's too crowded, but it was OK for just getting guys out on the water. We ski behind it, and generally just load it up with stuff (skis, cooler, fishing gear, etc.). It's a great p...

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We only ended up with the Everglades due to it being available used, right pricing, right options, right location. I was looking for a 230 Vantage, but couldn't find a used one that we wanted. New pricing was out of our range. Same with Grady - if we had found a used Grady or Whaler DC in our price ...

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I can't speak directly to your questions, as we were looking at 23' dual consoles, but with the Whaler, I liked the bench aft seating rather than the jump seats on the Grady. I also saw a pic where the port seat on the Vantage had two people sitting on it rather than the captain's chair on the Grady...

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I'm not sure the Dauntless will have an excessive wake, but I understand what you are saying. We are pretty athletic and snow ski quite a bit, so if it were to have a bigger wake than our Montauk, we'll just treat the wake as a liquid mogul.

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This is the 3.0L non-Verado 150HP engine. I have this engine on my 190 Montauk, and it's great. Very torquey and some people think it's probably putting out 165 HP or so. We are not serious competition skiers - just casual skiers when the conditions are right. I just want to be able to get a skier o...

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I found a nice 210 Dauntless with a T-top, but it has a Mercury 150-HP engine. With two adults, three kids, and a dog aboard, I'm concerned that we won't be able to adequately pull a skier. Q: Would changing to a higher pitch and four-bladed propeller provide a solution if the boat [as presently rig...

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We flew out to visit with family and take a look. It's EXCEPTIONALLY clean, but no t-top and no stern seat, so we aren't that thrilled with it as we enjoy hanging out on the hook, and there's not much seating for our family of 5. If anyone is looking for this age/type of boat, I highly recommend you...

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I'm 1000 miles away from a 1993 21 Outrage and am going to look at it Monday. Any tips? Here's what I know so far: - Twin Yamaha 150s c. 1993, compression test comes back good >120 psi except one cylinder that's 114 - No idea about hours on engines - I don't think they can pull the numbers off engin...

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Tena said they can build up that stern seat bench. Expensive, but an option for us. The other option would be high-quality deck chairs, so we'll look into that as well.

Thanks for the lead, Phil.

Tacky79

I found a few pics of a nice bench seat on this model. Any ideas where to source? Is Beacon Marine a source?

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A used 1993 21 Outrage with twin Yamaha 150 engines looks to be very clean. My wife pointed out that our 190 Montauk has more seating options - especially aft; we have aft live well seat plus seating on either side of the engine. Bean bags? Folding chairs? Is it feasible to install a folding bench s...

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Thanks Jim. Yes - that jives with the advertised model (1993 Outrage 21)! Pictures didn't show the hull to well, so I wanted to confirm that.

Boat looks like it just came off the showroom floor with twin 150 Yamahas. I'm going to check it out!

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I checked the FAQ and still don't quite understand this HIN of a used boat I came across. Would anyone care to help? https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48001960856_6b7eb3f599_z_d.jpg To me, it appears to be BWCJAD84D393 Making it April of '93 production and a 1993 model? I don't see the JAD84 anywh...

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This is such a contrast to the low levels of 2008 and 2013 when I thought we'd never see "normal" levels again.

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Thanks again, Acassiday, for taking your (and your son's) time to check it out. There are some great people on Continuous Wave. Two others contacted me offering to check out this boat as well. I hope to be able to return the favor someday! The sales guy denied that it ever ran rough, even though he ...

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I decided to pass on this boat. Too many questions were arising, and the sales guy had quick answers for them all. First, he said it was running rough, then they saw corrosion in the exhaust, then there was water leaking from the cowling. Yesterday, he said none of that was true, it was a communicat...

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I'm looking at a used Whaler 1000 miles from my house. One of our board members graciously looked at it for me, and the shop found this anomaly in the intake manifold. Any ideas what this may be, other than a problem in the casting process of this manifold? I might go ahead and have a Mercury techni...

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If anyone is in Houston and is willing to check on a used Dauntless for me, I'd be happy to send you some good beer or home made cookies or pay for your time. I'm not looking for a full-blown survey, necessarily, but a relatively quick look at this vessel and trailer. I'm planning on flying out late...

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The other option is a 1999 Outrage 23 with new twin Yamaha 150s. I'm not sure of the cost on this one yet, though.

For lounging about, the Dauntless seems ideal. For fishing and heavier seas (Lake Michigan), the Outrage seems ideal.

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Update: I found a nice looking (at least in pictures!) 2012 230 Dauntless and might go look at it. That involves a flight and a bit of a hassle, but the 230 Dauntless is on my short list of ideal boats. It has the 250 HP Verado, which per my understanding, doesn't have the fuel float problem. Any ad...

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Our boating is mostly on the Green Bay side of Door County, but sometimes on the Lake Michigan side via Baileys Harbor. We were pounding away in our 190 Montauk last year when Salmon fishing at 4 a.m. via Baileys Harbor. Quite "entertaining" in the dark considering it was an unfamiliar pla...

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I've mostly narrowed down a search for a new (used) boat for our family to [a 210 DAUNTLESS, a 220 DAUNTLESS, and a 230 DAUNTLESS]. There aren't any locally for me to check. Q1: Is anyone familiar with the ride of all three of these Boston Whaler models: [a 210 DAUNTLESS, a 220 DAUNTLESS, and a 230 ...

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I'm also about to re-do the wood in my 5.2 Harpoon. I was going to have a local company CNC-cut the pieces from the AutoCad files. I planned to use Mahogany, but haven't done much research. I plan to read up on the Yahoo Harpoon list to see what others have done.

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Looking for a used Whaler to leave in WI for our summer / fall vacations. I'm open to a lot, but ideally: 21-24' Dauntless seems to fit our needs best (skiing, cruising, fishing, swimming) Outrage/Vantage/Dual Console models would also work well Montauk 210 would be OK, but they seem to command a lo...

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Someday, we'll fly out to a real boat show so we can see all the Whaler lineup, and others. Here at the Denver boat show, there are maybe 2 or 3 Whalers (understandable, given the market) and about 12 trillion ski/surf boats with obnoxious wraps and paint schemes and huge speakers and trailers with ...

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If I rebuild a 2019 190 Montauk with the same options I have on our 2017 190 Montauk, the 2019 is about $10,000 more expensive. ($56,200 vs $46,300) That's a 21% increase in 2 years. If someone were able to negotiate a discount, it'd take a 25% discount to get (the new version of my 190 Montauk) dow...

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My 2017 190 Montauk base price was $36,281 per my paperwork. If the 2019 190 Montauk base price is now $47,497, that's an increase of 31% over two years. So, if those numbers are accurate, Boston Whaler has had some stratospheric price increases. I haven't kept up on pricing since buying our boat, s...

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I did say "near" that price. I can tell you that I paid near that price for a new Montauk only two years ago, so there's one data point. Now, that is two years ago, but still, pricing hasn't gone up that much in two years, has it? Boat show pricing, from what I'm told, typically allows for...

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You should be able to get a 190 Montauk with a 150 HP engine near that price [$42,000], I'd think. Especially with boat show pricing.

Tacky79

Perfect boat:
--retractable sun shade; check.
--Ski pole: check.
--twin 225s: check

Beefy looking trailer, too--is it aluminum?

Congrats

Tacky79

That 270 Dauntless is a nice boat!

The 270 Dauntless is our grail boat, but we're going to stick with our Montauk for a few more years. More pics, please.

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....I specifically asked Merc support if Trim and other functions like Boost will be available via the Vessel View Mobile and they said, "Yes." Interesting, but I'm a bit skeptical. What engine do you have? I can't find any trim indication on my app for my 150 HP FOURSTROKE. Note that the...

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I paid full price last summer. I think it was $275. I mostly use it to try and accurately track my fuel usage, and to verify hours on my engine. I installed under the Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE engine cowling, but I think I saw a connector that would work in my center console. I might move it there in t...

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"I would not care to own a yacht that required any crew." I agree, Butch. My wife talked about taking a cruise, and I decided that I'm not spending a vacation on a boat unless I'm the captain (or maybe a good friend is the captain). Our best vacation ever, was bareboat chartering a 45-foo...

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I just called my bank to see if I had $10MM in my account and they laughed at me and hung up.

I think I'll keep my yacht expenses in the sub-28' Whaler category for now!

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You should save this link, just in case that lottery ticket comes through.
;-)

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Re: trailerability, I think we are quickly moving towards having a boat that we leave in Wisconsin and we plan to retire there in the somewhat near future. But yes, trailerability is important for the short term. We can tow 5,000-lbs now, and that 220 Outrage would push that limit--maybe exceed it. ...

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Our 190 Montauk is away on vacation (inside storage for winter), so we sometimes day dream about the "next boat" this time of year. I have a few questions regarding various Whalers that seem like a good fit for our next boat. We are a family of five with a dog and new to power boating--two...

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Jon - are you talking about the 22' Outrage that we normally see at Anderson Dock in Ephraim? We visit there every summer--right across from Ephraim Yacht Harbor. If so, Beacon Marine in Sister Bay would probably sell it on consignment, but Boat Trader or YachtWorld would get you a lot of attention ...

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I have a 5.2 Harpoon, and decent models seem to go for about $2,000 with trailer.

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We have a 2017 190 Montauk and we enjoy using it for fishing, skiing with the kids, and hanging out/sunbathing/messing around/jumping off/cruising. The advantage that I can see, for the Montauk, is the bow has that big flat deck which is great for fishing in calm waters (as well as sunbathing, nappi...

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Like Butch, we don't have bow railings on our 190 Montauk. I've never been on the boat and thought "I wish we had railings".

But, I can see what you mean - having short railings would probably look good!

Tacky79

Great info!

Thanks!!!!

;-)

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Phil - do you have one of those Turbo Swings? Looks like a great option for me as well. I was looking at the Whaler tow arch, but it wouldn't allow me to use the boat cover that I have now. I think this Turbo Swing would.

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We just drove through there week after last on our way up to Door County all the way from home here in Denver. The "sea" conditions in Lake Michigan and Green Bay were very different than I see here on lakes in Colorado, so it was fun to experience that in our 190 Montauk. I wish I could h...

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You are all going to be right down the road from Beacon Marine. Maybe Sue will bring down a nice cooler full of beer for you!

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