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Con - That was Dave (Buckda) as noted in the linked thread.

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Wearing a vest is the most critical.

No vest, no ride, no exceptions!

Aside - Hi Dave, glad to see you back!

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I recall Buckda trying to do this on his Outrage 18 in the old days and it was a bear. I think the front cleat is called a Sampson Post rather than a cleat. The screws are frozen into a aluminum backer piece under the deck. You may want to drill them out and re-tap. Here is the thread. (can you tell...

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http://www.Hamiltonmarine.com is down but I did find them at Fisheries Supply on the West Coast. The search is for Perko Clam shell vent. http://www.fisheriessupply.com/vents-fans-hatches-and-windows/clamshell-vents/perko I recall it is the large size but check the screw hole measurements to the ph...

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Fuel tanks are foamed into place in a recess that is finished and gel coated. While there may be some fuel in the foam, it will not reach the hull.

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Not necessarily.

Are we discussing a pre-1980 16'7 model or a smirked 17' model? What is the interior? Where is the battery located?

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There have been over two dozen members who have inspected and replaced their below deck tanks. Here is one discussion on the Outrage 18 specifically from the archive: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/021024.html Here is the search list for all the Outrage 18 tank replacement discussions fro...

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Since Boston Whaler has removed the parts and wood backing diagrams from the website for the earlier years, I would contact Boston Whaler Customer Service and ask them for the wood backing diagrams for your year and model.

If the rep tries to beg off, talk to Chuck Bennett.

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If the boat is on a trailer, you can use the existing fuel line to drain a under floor tank. You just need a primer bulb at the end of a fuel line to get a syphon started.

I ran the fuel through a water separator filter and used it in my snowblower and mower. Don't run it in a automobile.

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Pete--I recall the long time vendor for the OEM like stern seat is Art's. From the REFERENCE section article on Original Equipment Manufacturers and Recommended Vendors : Art's Auto & Marine Inc. 736 Warren Avenue Brockton, MA 02301 Telephone: 508-586-2137 Specialty Marine has not gotten high ma...

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Ten years of boating in the off season by myself in Maine has taught me that you should never skimp on safety equipment. If money is tight, invest in a good waterproof hand held VHF. Acknowledge that you will need to wear it on your person every time you are on the boat. Just like your life jacket.

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Thanks for posting Kevin.

As I mentioned at Pat's party, I will be attending this crossing.

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I have read the recent threads about changing from the typical Igloo Marine 94 qt cooler to brand X or brand Y and am wondering....why? In past years any discussion would lead back to the Igloo whereas recently its shifting away. Are the $300 coolers that much better than the $130 Igloo? Does the fa...

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Rich - If you are tall (6'0+) then a 6" rise is recommended but testing a mockup is warranted. Have you considered Larry's (LHG) design for the riser? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Montauk%2017/Scan_Pic0036.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/lgoltz/Montauk%2017/Scan_Pic0...

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Don't forget motor mounting height [as a cause of high steering force]. If the motor is mounted on the transom in its lowest position, it can affect steering.

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It is clear the Response Boat-Small I and II are not appropriate for rough seas or breaking waves since it does not have the self-righting feature of the Response boat - Medium.

cf: http://www.uscg.mil/acquisition/rbm/pdf/RBM.pdf

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I would not do this.

Every time the boat is not in use, pull off the inspection ports and let the cavity air out.

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First test is do you have a heavy smell of gas when you open inspection port and lean over? A low pressure leak down test will tell you if you have a leak. There is a good chance tank is okay. Check the fuel fill, vent and fuel lines for the "alcohol resistant" rating that is printed on th...

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The motor is mounted all the way down, I would raise it 2 holes. You will gain approximately 125 rpm for each hole you go up due to less drag.

Raising the motor is doable as a DIY with basic tools if the boat is on the trailer and you have a friend to help.

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Leave the plug out. Over the years I have seen a dozen classic and post classic Boston Whaler boats less than 19' that were almost swamped at the dock due to dead battery, electrical short, pump failure or clogged pump or hose. I baffles me why they don't just pull the plug. At worse, there will be ...

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For future owners considering the same motor/prop combination, can you post the motor mounting height and WOT rpm when you reached 40 mph. BTW, I checked http://www.bostonwhaler.com for the performance test on the Montauk 170 and with a 90 hp Mercury FourStroke WOT was 5750 and 40.9 mph with a 13 1/...

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There is a big difference between under the waterline and above. Use Marine Tex repair kit and use the boat.

Given the age of the boat, I bet the water intrusion is minimal.

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Boston Whaler still used marine plywood Since you are not clear on the exact model, I had to take a guess. They don't offer as many wood diagrams as they used to. Here is the wood/backing material diagram for the 210 Outrage, it is dated 2001. Note item KK is 1/2" plywood. The other backing mat...

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On [every page, once you have logged, there will be] just below the search box [a hyperlink to] Private Messages. Click on it.

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Bob -

Nice to see you here. Been awhile.

I agree with Peter and Mav.

The 3 cyl. E-TEC is a fine motor. If you need more power, go with H.O. and move the battery to the console.

Phil

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No cracking or damage.

Warning - The non-skid gets clogged with ice making the deck very slippery. Falling on a cold deck hurts more than when warm. This was one of the reasons I covered the entire deck with Dri-Dek.

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http://www.fisheriessupply.com/perko-rod-holder-lips-only

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The Montauk 170 has a "cooler seat" option. This includes an Igloo Marine 72 qt cooler with cushion, console mounted rod holders and backrest. The cooler can be purchased at any camping/boating supply store or on the web. Shop hard since prices vary a lot. http://www.amazon.com/Igloo-Marin...

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Simon--glad to see you are dialed in and enjoying the boat. Well done.

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Portland is my backyard. The boat he runs is a 1996-1999 Outrage 17 II. I know a few members who run this model. His "haul-off system" is often called a portable outhaul. It is the only way to anchor far enough offshore with the 9+ foot tides. When he talks about the fog and shows the befo...

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I admit the bungie cord/strap design has it's shortcomings and have experienced it first hand. As some veterans might remember I had a habit of venturing out in nasty conditions and stuffing the bow of the boat. I recall at least 4 times when the cooler in my classic Montauk and Outrage 17 got knock...

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Just as easy to post the link to the thread. Make it easy.

Here it is.

http://continuouswave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=149&p=2101#p2101

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Shark - Take a close look at page 3 of the console assembly drawing for your 2007 210 Outrage from Boston Whaler. http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat_graphics/electronic_brochure/Company94/_56_913201042140PM.pdf The cooler cleat is part #30 and the blowup circle shows the strap assembly, part # 64. The...

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It'a an F70.

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One key element has been engine weight. Mercury has increased horsepower while engine weight stayed the same. Many Boston Whaler models received higher horsepower with the introduction of the L4 Verado. I think the same can also be true with the introduction of the latest generation of the Mercury F...

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Simon - At what height is the motor mounted on the transom? How many bolt holes are empty above the top bolt? If two or three [engine mounting holes are empty above the top bold], the motor is at the right height. Did you revisit the conversation we had with Tim, Dennis and Sailorman from November?

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In addition to the analytical information, there are antidotal reports. One such report is mine. I sea trailed a Montauk 150 with a Boston Whaler Dealer representative a few years ago. It was powered by a 60 hp engine. It was very clear to me (and the rep) that the boat was sluggish with a full load...

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In my opinion, Boston Whaler underpowers it's current models. If you look at the weights and hp ratings of the classics, you can see there is a higher weight to power ratio. The classic Montauk was rated at 90 hp and it weighed ~900 lbs dry. The 2016 Dauntless 17 weights 1,680 lbs and has a max hp r...

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Please stop watching that. He is such a prat!

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I recall prior discussions reviewing engine weight for a classic Montauk and the consensus was the Honda 90 was the limit. I recall it weighed about 355-lbs. My friend Legobusier had this exact setup and the boat did squat a bit in the stern. One method to evaluate engine weight prior to purchase to...

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Boston Whaler has been offering a "tow eye" as an option on many models.

Looks like this:

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The plastic thru hull parts should be available (via order) through a local whaler dealer. For excellent service, I use Sue Lodel (Parts Manager) @ Twin Cities Marine. They ship to all states and internationally. Call or email her.

Phone (920)793-2715
tcmarine@lakefield.net

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The earliest diagrams offered online by Whaler is 1998. Go to http://www.bostonwhaler.com, select OWNER, RESOURCES, PARTS and [select] year and model [as shown below].

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I would NOT do it. Cutting or drilling into the hull increases the chances of water getting into the hull. It is a discouraged practice. Only the large boats (22' of larger) had a special fairing block for thru hull transducers. Russ's boat has a completely different layout and the hull is significa...

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If you review the archived threads, you will read there are many companies that will insure a boat with a motor with a higher hp rating than the capacity plate. The last 10 years of threads discussing insurance for a boat that has a motor exceeds the capacity plate hp rating limit start out dire. Th...

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Do not mount a 60-HP engine motor. You will be very, very unhappy. A 60 will struggle to get the boat on a plane and will be operating at almost full power most of the time. A 70 hp motor will give you an acceptable cruising speed with a full load of four adults. A 90-HP is more typical and will add...

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For future readers:

--GREASE the cable;

--buy a Steersman nut (that has a grease fitting) and replace the existing nut that does not; and

--add marine grease every fall.

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The company name is actually Great Lakes Boat Top and they have factories in Tennessee and Florida. http://www.greatlakesboattop.com In looking at their site, the earliest Outrage 18 they show products for is 2000. Carver is another company that makes products for Whalers. You can see them via iBoat...

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Before you do anything, is your motor mounted at the appropriate height? It should be ~ 2 holes up, meaning the bolts in the top bracket are in the 3rd hole, counting down from the top. -Bolt holes 0 <----- bolt here is "all the way down" 0 0 <--- bolt here is "2 holes "up" ...

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John - Well done!

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