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Phil T

If the boat is stored out of the water, plugs should be removed.

If stored in a rack or at a marina I would not remove it or trust them with it.

Phil T

Bob--Engines more than 30-HP are not sold with a propeller included as there is no "standard" propeller. A propeller is selected based on the engine and the hull it is mounted on. Boston Whaler owners with a Sport 13 and a classic Yamaha 40 two-stroke-power-cycle engine have tested many pr...

Phil T

Highly doubt there are E-TEC engines left at any local dealers.

Phil T

Given the F200 is the same weight, you should be fine.

As for the Suzuki, it is only 40-lbs more. I doubt there will be a significant impact.

If the batteries are in the stern, you can move them to the console and the weight difference will be offset.

Phil T

What is the static trim of the boat as it was?

Any photos showing the transom from ten feet away?

Where was the water line in relation to the engine splashwell drains?

Phil T

For owners re-powering with engines that increase the engine weight, simulate the proposed new weight on the boat prior to making a purchasing decision. Add bags of sand or jugs of water so the new weight is in the stern. Drive the boat and observe its handling--not acceleration--n different sea con...

Phil T

I would recommend a Turbo Swing.

https://turboswing.com/

Easy to install, remove. Stronger and not prone to breaking.

Phil T

If I were in a position where I needed additional fuel capacity on a frequent basis I would make the following modifications. ⋅ Relocate the forward cooler to a location aft of the RPS. ⋅ Remove the hold-down bracket on the forward face of the console. ⋅ Install a secon...

Phil T

Buddy - Where are you located so we can offer local vendors.

If you add your location to your profile, members can give regional recommendations.

Phil T

I would proffer that given the symptoms and work done, I suspect [the cause of the lugging will be due to] the injectors. The injector sprays a very fine spray of fuel into the cylinder. The screens and small passages in the injector can get dirty to vlogged. This reduced flow shows as the engine bo...

Phil T

Tony--given that propellers are very expensive, $300 to $900, here is some background meant to help. In completing the task of propeller selection and engine rigging, it is important to note the following: ⋅ When testing for propellers, it is important to keep all variables, other than the...

Phil T

An additional factor in bow porpoising is an engine being mounted too low. Given the 5" of setback, the engine height, at any planing speed, should be such that the anti-cavitation plate, located just above the prop, should be 2 to 2-1/2 inches above the keel of the boat. To measure this proper...

Phil T

Do you have the original switches in the panels?

I think the OEM switches were 1) Nav lights 2) Accessory

Think you should pull the panel and trace the wires.

Check the light bulb in the combined sidelights lamp and then the socket.

Phil T

Use "Liquid Electrical Tape" (a product name) to get another few months of service until you can round up the appropriate connectors to cut away the degraded cable and install a new short section. This assumes there is no existing slack that can be found to cut out the degraded section and...

Phil T

Consider liquid electrical tape as a short term fix.

It really needs to be replaced.

You don't need to replace the entire run. Only the ~1'ft that is exposed.

Phil T

Not my idea actually.

Birdsall Marine offers a leaning post backrest that has folding arms. I took notice of it during a cruise aboard Henry, aka The Yiddil's, Nantucket/Outrage 190 on the Potomac River last year.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/003440.html

Phil T

A3: If I could read the engineer's mind, to use the stern platform, one would remove the backrest and the seat platform and use the step to gain access to the platform. If it were me and I already had the boat, I would fabricate the rear seats rather than order the parts from the factory. Two option...

Phil T

There are two rear seating options for the 2018 or newer 170 Montauk II: individual stern quarter seats and a full width seat. These can be ordered from your local dealer. Note the MSRP prices do not include delivery, installation or dealer preparation. From the Boston Whaler website: sternSeat-1.jp...

Phil T

Due to Covid, used boat prices for Boston Whalers are through the roof.

Where your boat would be worth ~7K pre-covid, the current market price would be in the 10-12K range. This price also reflects that it is winter.

Be prepared for a ton of interest, many naysayers and low-ballers.

Phil T

Well the jackplate is NOT helping you. How much setback?

Where is the anti-ventilatoin plate in relation to the keel? Use a straight edge to measure.

Adding transom weight and moving the engine aft is exacerbating the tendency for the bow to oscillate.

Phil T

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The recommended props for your model and engine are 3 bladed stainless steel, eg. 14x18 Suzuki SS or a 14x22 Stiletto Advantage I.

Answer the above questions, and then we can discuss propellers.

Phil T

The Power Tec LNR 4 is a four-bladed stainless steel prop.

See https://www.ptpropeller.com/content-pro ... amaha.html

Phil T

In addition to the above information request, please provide the following: ⋅ Years of boating experience ⋅ Engine height on the transom. How many empty holes in the bracket above the top bolts? ⋅ Location of fuel tank (stern, midships, bow) ⋅ Location of batt...

Phil T

It is a general recommendation to delay performance testing until after the manufacturer's break-in has been completed. Changes based on preliminary testing results will lead to incorrect recommendations for props. You have reduced the horsepower and gained engine weight with the new engine. A reduc...

Phil T

Your new engine is labelled and marketed as the 115 SHO and not as the F115 SHO. The 115 SHO is modified F115 engine with different cam shafts, reprogrammed ECU and a higher max WOT of 5300-6300 rpms. According to Yamaha, peak horsepower occurs at 5400-RPM I do not recall Boston Whaler specifying tr...

Phil T

You missed my post on replacements. Look up a few posts and read viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6069&p=35544#p35540.

Phil T

I made a short video to show the attachment as well as an alternative.

https://flic.kr/p/2kit3ih

Here are two photos of the hinged method described in the video.

: Fig. 3. Seat with modified method of attachment using hinge.; Outrage17qtrseathinged.jpeg (43.44 KiB) Viewed 295 times

: Fig. 4. Two modified hinged seats in open position.; outrage17hinged.jpeg (47.63 KiB) Viewed 295 times

Phil T

To match the forward console backrest cushion, you will want to call Tena @ Anderson's for replacement cushions. They offer the full seat, not the vinyl.

http://www.amfg.us

Yes, they are not inexpensive. They will last a long time.

Phil T

The original method for attaching the rear quarter seats included a shock cord and three eyes--far from a good method for many reasons. [See illustrations below.]

: Figure 1. View of stern quarter seat from 1992 OUTRAGE 17. Seat cushion is removed. Two pad eyes attached to hull are shown.; IMG_20201219_122719881.jpeg (25.43 KiB) Viewed 298 times

: Figure 2. View of stern quarter seat from 1992 OUTRAGE 17. Underside of seat cushion is shown with stretch-cord running through a center pad eye.; IMG_20201219_122739396.jpeg (30.59 KiB) Viewed 298 times

Phil T

For the Anniversary edition models, a plaque or slightly different graphics were the only features that were different.

Phil T

When you have a chance can you explain the selection of the jackplate.

Why add one? Pros, cons?
Which models did you investigate?
Why this brand/model?
What will you do to offset the added stern weight?

Thanks Dave.

Phil T

A key indicator of water saturation in a hull is the location of the water line at static rest. If the water line on the transom is at the level of the splashwell drains, it is considered good. A waterline below the drains is very good. If the water line were two-inches above the drains, that would ...

Phil T

Forgoing commentary on the pros or cons of the loading techniques outlined above, I would have an experienced welder weld an eye and the necessary base material to the end of a new stainless steel rod and install it in lieu of the existing eye. - or - Replace current eye with: https://www.suncorstai...

Phil T

I would say to an owner who posted just this photo, the engine should be raised so the anti-cavitation plate is 1-2" above the bottom of the keel.

As shown, the current height appears to be less than 1/2".

Phil T

Please provide the name of the dealer that is installing a factory capacity plate with a higher hp rating to a pre-owned boat. I believe there is a federal law that sets the conditions of capacity plates. All this is not to say you can't repower with a higher rating. This topic has already been full...

Phil T

Shifting the engine weight back by using a setback bracket induces bow oscillation.

Phil T

Before you spend $1,000 on trim tabs: bow oscillation occurs due to stern weight and a light bow. The common recommendation for Boston Whaler owners is to review and alter the engine height, select the appropriate propeller, and locate interior items of weight like the battery and fuel tank(s) in a ...

Phil T

I would not expect a dealer to swap out a prop once used. Those days are gone.

I suggested a prop expert given changing props is a $800-$1600 decision for you.

Phil T

Since practically no one offers props for testing I would use a prop specialist. Two respected sources I recommend and members have used include: Ken Reeves of Prop Gods http://www.propgods.com JT props aka Dan's Discount Props https://dansdiscountprops.com Between the two, they sell all the various...

Phil T

You are correct, the Mirage is the original factory prop. I think part of the concern is your acceleration technique. I tend to accelerate more gently Consider this: When loaded you have more weight to get up and out of the water. While 2 strokes have a better torque curve than a 4 stroke accelerati...

Phil T

You don't specify 3 or 4 bladed props.

You want to go with 4 bladed for better grip.

Phil T

If it is a wrap, it can't hurt.

Just like the boats that have the large WHALER logo on the hullsides.

Were I buying a boat with a wrap and I didn't like the wrap or there were defects in the wrap, I would discount the offer price and just remove the wrap.

Phil T

I think a marine wrap company will be more effective, higher quality and better service than a dealer offering this product.

Phil T

Sorry to say I call his story BS.

If you look at the photo, his anchor is NOT deployed.

Where was he anchored, in the open ocean? Why not close to shore, protected waters? Swim to shore?

Phil T

While the two-stroke had a WOT of 5250 and a gear ratio of 2.07, the new Mercury 115 FourStroke is not the same. To determine the appropriate propeller pitch, look at the engine power, gear ratio, WOT engine speed, propeller SLIP, and target boatspeed. The current Mercury 115-HP FourStroke model has...

Phil T

Ask Sue Lodel, Parts Manager, Twin Cities Marine. She is the Whaler parts GODDESS.

http://www.beacontcm.com

Phil T

You can find fixed or adjustable leaning posts with or without backrests.

Todd Industries is a major manufacturer.

http://www.toddusa.com/leaning-posts.aspx

For a fixed height, you just need to cut the poles to the appropriate height.

Phil T

My friend actually bought the boat with the risers from CW member KDW. The boat has been sold two times since this was originally posted in 2011. Here is the thread: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/012992.html Kenny Wyndham (KDW) [made the risers] out of FRP (I think it's Fiber Reinforced ...

Phil T

As I said, not my Outrage 17.

I do know the owner and will reach out and see what he has.

Phil T

From a fellow Outrage 17 owner: The previous owner of my Outrage 17 made [risers from] black fibre-reinforced plastic (FRP) channels and angles bought from McMaster-Carr and jointed with stainless steel [machine screws]. [The risers] turned out nicely, By raising the RPS by three-nches a 72 quart Ig...

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