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by Spc337
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage V-22 Wood Location near Fuel Tank Cavity
Replies: 1
Views: 2999

Outrage V-22 Wood Location near Fuel Tank Cavity

My project is a 1979 Outrage V-22 with the regular 77-gallon fuel tank. I have a new tank and have applied appropriate rubber strips to the underside for installation in the fuel tank cavity. A drainage tube is installed. Last step is to secure the fuel tank itself to insure there is no fore-and-aft...
by Spc337
Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:52 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage Deck Repair
Replies: 6
Views: 2426

Re: Outrage Deck Repair

I’m filling all of the screw holes in the hull (stringers) will ample epoxy to reinforce the bite and seal from water.
by Spc337
Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:30 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Filling Console Cut-outs
Replies: 6
Views: 2155

Filling Console Cut-outs

As I get ready to re-wire my boat's console, I'm trying to figure out how to handle the previous cut-outs. There were two, as see below: IMG_3410.jpg I only need one cut-out. The prior owner had placed some starboard across the front that was functional but not particularly attractive. I'm complete ...
by Spc337
Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:00 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage Rigging Tunnel Boot
Replies: 2
Views: 1079

Outrage Rigging Tunnel Boot

IMG_3548.jpg My boat arrived with the device seen above installed on a shelf within the console. There wasn't anything on the deck. Thus any water that sloshed under the console would certainly end up in the rigging tunnel. To prevent as much water as possible from getting below deck I would like t...
by Spc337
Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Drying Wet Foam with Vacuum Pump
Replies: 3
Views: 1313

Re: Drying Wet Foam with Vacuum Pump

I ran into this company years ago and wondered if their service worked as good as they claimed. Wet cores can are difficult dry dry out, but I believe some improvement can be made. http://www.dryhull.com/ D- That's basically what I was thinking. Using a pump designed to run for long times without d...
by Spc337
Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:36 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Drying Wet Foam with Vacuum Pump
Replies: 3
Views: 1313

Drying Wet Foam with Vacuum Pump

In the process of replacing my [OUTRAGE 22 boat's] fuel tank, I've install a drain tube from the fuel tank cavity to the rear live well or fish box. When I pulled out the foam, it was damp. I can't say if the dampness is pervasive but since I have a few months before launching the boat again I'm thi...
by Spc337
Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 4
Views: 1636

Re: Fuel Tank Replacement / Re-rigging Project...

Yes - the one that was there when I purchase the boat was marine A-2 and grounded. I don’t know if the wire in the hose was grounded but the fill neck was. I suspect the water was able to sit between the pipe and tank allow crevice corrosion but there were several holes in other areas including one ...
by Spc337
Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket
Replies: 9
Views: 2182

Re: OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket

Looks great. Can you share a picture of the whole console?
by Spc337
Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket
Replies: 9
Views: 2182

Re: OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket

My aluminum is flat. The wood was bolted thru and then the console was sandwiched between to pieces of wood which were screwed together. I have a super console which doesn’t appear to be original since there is a capped rigging tunnel cutout and two rows of screws that were filled. I wonder if the a...
by Spc337
Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:02 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket
Replies: 9
Views: 2182

Re: Console floor rails need replacing?

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Fig. 1. Console mounting runners on OUTRAGE 22.
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by Spc337
Sat Oct 06, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket
Replies: 9
Views: 2182

OUTRAGE 22 Console Mounting Bracket

On my Outrage 22 I need to replace the wood and aluminum mounting brackets which support the console; they consist of wood runners bolted to a flat aluminum bracket which is screwed down to the deck. I assume the wood is teak. What kind of wood should I use? I am assuming teak 2 x 2 lumber. Maybe th...
by Spc337
Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Power Distribution and Control; Over-current Protection: Fuse v. Circuit Breaker
Replies: 8
Views: 2555

Re: Power Distribution and Control; Over-current Protection: Fuse v. Circuit Breaker

Sounds like I'm on the right path with regard to what benefits from a switch and what will not. I'm going to investigate a breaker for the downriggers, the [Blue Sea Systems] version looks to run $90 per breaker which is very expensive. $90 Breaker - https://www.bluesea.com/products/7136/187-Series_...
by Spc337
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:45 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage Deck Repair
Replies: 6
Views: 2426

Re: Outrage Deck Repair

Re-coring the deck cover just seems beyond my abilities.
by Spc337
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:21 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Power Distribution and Control; Over-current Protection: Fuse v. Circuit Breaker
Replies: 8
Views: 2555

Re: Power Distribution and Control; Over-current Protection: Fuse v. Circuit Breaker

For an example, of what I think you are planning, see https://www.bluesea.com/products/8371/Water_Resistant_Circuit_Breaker_Panel_8_Position-Black Correct - Sorry for my short hand. When I look at the images, many switches are labelled with "VHF" or "Chartplotter." I can't see t...
by Spc337
Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage Deck Repair
Replies: 6
Views: 2426

Outrage Deck Repair

I've pulled off [the deck covering] the fuel compartment [of my OUTRAGE boat], and thankfully the majority is in good shape. I don't think re-coring the deck is needed. However, I do see exposed edges and some rot in one corner. I plan to epoxy the edges. Should I use some fiberglass cloth strips fo...
by Spc337
Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:30 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Power Distribution and Control; Over-current Protection: Fuse v. Circuit Breaker
Replies: 8
Views: 2555

Power Distribution and Control; Over-current Protection: Fuse v. Circuit Breaker

As I rebuild my console I'm replacing the existing switches and probably going with [Blue Sea Systems] Contura Breaker Switches [see follow-up comment below]. I'm trying to avoid over engineering as I'm apt to do and getting a good lesson in ABYC standards from previous posts. What would be helpful ...
by Spc337
Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Eight Questions on Power Distribution and Control Wiring
Replies: 7
Views: 2163

Eight Questions on Power Distribution and Control Wiring

[Another article on the topic of refurbishing power distribution was] very helpful. Q1: What wire insulation color is appropriate to run to the [navigation lighting circuits]? I [think I] would use gray for the positive and yellow for negative. I am not sure there is a duplex cable with that pairing...
by Spc337
Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:45 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Water Temp Sender Johnson 250
Replies: 8
Views: 2897

Re: Identify Correct Sender for Particular Gauge, OMC Part #174090

What is the correct sender for a gauge with part number OMC #174090

I've searched high and low and while I can find senders, I can't find anything that suggests which one is correct for my 1999 Johnson J250PXEEN)and compatible with my gauge. [Give me] help.
by Spc337
Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: OMC Wiring Harness
Replies: 1
Views: 1618

OMC Wiring Harness

Now that I've removed all the wiring from my console, I noticed that the main rigging wire bundle from the engine was butt spliced to extend the wires at some point. The splices look well made. Considering have everything disconnected and the deck off, is the replacement of this rigging wire bungle ...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 28, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 1940

Re: Fuel Tank Replacement / Re-rigging Project...

I've been able to get most of the foam out with the help of a pressure washer. I've been scraping with a paint scraper but still not getting the last bits off— any ideas? I'd rather not resort to sanding. And not sure if Acetone would help or just create other problems.
by Spc337
Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Water Temp Sender Johnson 250
Replies: 8
Views: 2897

Water Temp Sender Johnson 250

I have a 250-HP. I plan to add a temperature sensor. I haven’t found a manual or instructions.

Has anyone installed a water temperature sender in a Johnson outboard?
by Spc337
Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 22 Console
Replies: 3
Views: 1357

Re: Outrage 22 Console

Thanks. My console was secured to the teak runners by a series of large screws of which many had lost their bite. I do plan to provide better sealing and to replace the boot for the rigging tunnel. The boot is on my shelf, but I’m planning to get a new one. I do plan to seal the deck core. It’s in g...
by Spc337
Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Re-core rotten deck cover
Replies: 8
Views: 2342

Re: Re-core rotten deck cover

Looks like a great outcome. I'm facing a similar project although my fuel cover isn't in bad shape. The forward port corner does have some rot. I'm wondering if I epoxy that if it would be sufficient. The area is maybe 12 x 12. I could remove it but I have no experience with this kind of repair so a...
by Spc337
Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Bonding Circuit
Replies: 7
Views: 2412

Re: Bonding Circuit

That all makes sense to me. Here are pictures of how my boat is currently setup. He is a birdseye view of my splash well. It shows the Green Bond wire emerging from the starboard rigging tunnel through a clam shell (in the splashwell) attaching to a bolt (Machine Screw). https://www.dropbox.com/s/7j...
by Spc337
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Bonding Circuit
Replies: 7
Views: 2412

Re: Bonding Circuit

Mine definitely is not routed like that. It is attached to what I’m describing as a bolt in the splash well and on the exterior all I can see is the head of a bolt that has been painted.

Do you have a photo of yours so I can see how this should be installed?
by Spc337
Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:25 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Through-hull Fitting Repairs c.2004 NANTUCKET
Replies: 46
Views: 12885

Re: Through-hull Fitting Repairs c.2004 NANTUCKET

What was the product name for the no-rot board? I may have to do some deck repair on an older Outrage. Most of the Marine Ply is in good shape and I had intended to add Epoxy around the edges to ensure it is well sealed but found one area that felt like more attention may be needed. Luckily, it sits...
by Spc337
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Bonding Circuit
Replies: 7
Views: 2412

Bonding Circuit

[Thread moved to SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL for discussion.] In my Outrage 22, the bonding circuit connects to a bolt in the stern splash well. On the outboard side of the hull the head of the bolt was painted over when the bottom was epoxy coated. I'm guessing that is bad and probably the reason my meta...
by Spc337
Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 2595

Re: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

I really wanted a poly tank for my Outrage 22. To get a custom tank made, the initial $3,000 to $10,000 cost of the mold has to be absorbed.

A few weeks back I inquired in a posting if there was any interest but didn't get a response.
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 2595

Re: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

Looks nice. Even has a pump installed from what I can see. Any idea who makes that tank? I doubt it fits my cavity but anything is worth a try to avoid aluminum again.
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 2595

Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

Has anyone [installed a fuel tank without foam to surround the fuel tank]? [Are there any] photos of how the work was completed? I'm back and forth on foam and partial foam--that is, foam in the corners for stability. Also on adding a drain. And also on figuring out how to install in a cradle of som...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Advice on making repairs to cracks, chips, and small holes
Replies: 1
Views: 937

Advice on making repairs to cracks, chips, and small holes

[Separated from a thread on another topic and moved here.--jimh] I'm at the early stages of a tank replacement project. I'm sure I will need to do some gel coat repair. I'm new to working with gel coat resin and epoxy resin. I am looking forward to learning how to properly apply them. The repairs wi...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 22 Console
Replies: 3
Views: 1357

Outrage 22 Console

I just lifted the super console [on a Boston Whaler Outrage 22] and noticed what I believe to be indications that this boat had a different console at some point. Any clues? More curiosity than anything else. I will want to fill the old openings to eliminate the obvious water intrusion opportunities...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 1940

Re: Fuel Tank Replacement / Re-rigging Project...

Here is the cavity with the fuel tank mostly out. I now need to figure out how to remove the remaining foam and clean everything. Any recommendations?
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 1940

Re: Fuel Tank Replacement / Re-rigging Project...

Here is a picture of the Bonding wire.. It ran from the Ground Bus Bar to the tank. From this point, individual wires ran to the Pickup and Fuel Filler (not the vent - not sure if that matters) and a wire running out to the stern. I need to check where that wire goes. Is this the proper way to bond ...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 1940

Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project

Fuel Tank Replacement Project continues. I was finally able to remove the rigging from the console and remove it from the deck. I slid it to the bow and removed the guts so I can sit in the forward well with easy access to rewire. With the Deck lifted, I finally had easy access to the tank. The tank...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 4
Views: 1636

Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project

Fuel Tank Replacement Project continues. I was finally able to remove the rigging from the console and remove it from the deck. I slid it to the bow and removed the guts so I can sit in the forward well with easy access to rewire. With the Deck lifted, I finally had easy access to the tank. The tank...
by Spc337
Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Dual-circuit Battery Switches
Replies: 6
Views: 3403

Re: Automatic Comber Relay Packaged with Battery Switch

To move to dual batteries, I'm planning to use a [Blue Sea Systems] "Add a Battery Kit" product. The "Add a Battery Kit" packaging has a battery switch and an automatic combiner relay.

https://www.bluesea.com/products/765000 ... 5BBoxed%5D
by Spc337
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:49 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

My boat already had the tank replaced 10 years ago with a new aluminum FMT tank. I’m assuming it replaced an original FMT but who knows. Moeller is pretty difficult to deal with and they will not modify the fittings which seems like a restrictive manufacturing process and lost opportunity. I haven’t...
by Spc337
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Floating Mine pops up in Puget Sound.
Replies: 2
Views: 1316

Re: Floating Mine pops up in Puget Sound.

It was detonated less than a mile from my house. Despite claims it was inert, the explosives used shook my house. We had no warning so I thought either a large tree just fell or a propane tank blew. Eventually the local news and island Facebook page started to light up with what had happened. The mi...
by Spc337
Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

Here is the 69-gallon tank I was referring too.. Assuming the fittings cannot be modified, the filler is pointed the wrong direction to install towards the bow. I guess I could install it with the filler towards the stern will a longer fill hose. The port rigging tunnel would then have a real purpos...
by Spc337
Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank
Replies: 4
Views: 1376

Re: Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank

I wouldn't install a pump in the cavity itself since these will need to be serviceable.. I would simply secure a hose to the stern end of the cavity and locate the pump either near the console or as Jim suggested use a selector to leverage an existing pump to handle both locations. There is always a...
by Spc337
Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Interpreting Fuel Hose Rating Designators; Gray Fuel Hose
Replies: 4
Views: 1869

Re: Interpreting Fuel Hose Rating Designators; Gray Fuel Hose

All of my hoses are Trident. A1-15 from tank to engine (it does travel under the deck for a few feet) replacing some B1 Gray hose from prior owner. A2 1.5" Filler Hose (Couldn't find A1 rated). This is a beast of a hose and just makes the 90deg turn within the space allowed. A1 - Vent Hose. In ...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I should also mention that I did find a 69gallon tank that might fit. I would sacrifice 8 gallons to get a plastic tank for $600. I'm investigating if the fittings can be relocated without a tooling cost. Aside from the molded filler, I think they can put the fittings where needed after they make th...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

That is my question as well. I didn't ask it yet but wanted to gauge interest first. My guess, if I were Moeller, they would "own" the mold. What I'm hoping to be able to demonstrate is some additional demand for this tank and then figure out if Moeller would share in the costs so the init...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I spoke with Moeller Tanks today. Tooling for a custom tank would run $3,000 to $10,000, Obviously as an individual buyer that is [not a feasible cost to undertake]. However, if there is enough interest from the community, we can figure out a more economical plan leveraging volume purchases. Of cour...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank
Replies: 4
Views: 1376

Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank

Sadly, I’ve confirm my recently purchased OUTRAGE 22 has a bad fuel tank despite being replace in 2007 with a Florida Marine Tanks (FMT) OEM tank. 1a.jpg 2a.jpg Now I need to find a replacement tank. FMT quoted $1,300 plus $300 in shipping, and extra for epoxy coating--seems rather expensive. Resear...
by Spc337
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

[I am surprised] [MOELLER] does’t have the Tempo mold. Anyway, [a new mold] would have to be custom [made]. [I am] trying to figure out what [MOELLER] would charge to make [a new plastic fuel tank from a custom made mold]. [I replaced text for "they" and "it' above as best I could wit...
by Spc337
Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:25 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I’m trying to reach [TEMPO or MOELLER]. I’ll tell [TEMPO or MOELLER] there is a potential for at least two tanks and probably others. Maybe we [can] get the cost down on the mold by finding a few participants.

Sean
by Spc337
Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 22
Views: 4590

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

If I end up finding a plastic tank, I would think that foam is an ok option since the plastic won't degrade from the exposure like a metal tank does. Or would you still opt to have a drain or some method to remove water? Do you have a tag on your tank? I wonder if I can still get a quote from that m...