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by jwaters58
Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:33 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 2007 190 Outrage: Cost to Install Electric Trolling Motor
Replies: 9
Views: 2200

Re: 2007 190 Outrage: Cost to Install Electric Trolling Motor

I will look for a tunnel to the front before doing any wiring. Thanks for that information.
Jeff
by jwaters58
Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:11 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 2007 190 Outrage: Cost to Install Electric Trolling Motor
Replies: 9
Views: 2200

Re: 2007 190 Outrage: Installing Electrical Outlet for Trolling Motor Above Fuel Tank

Thanks Phil. I will take any information you have. It's greatly appreciated.
by jwaters58
Fri Oct 06, 2023 7:15 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 2007 190 Outrage: Cost to Install Electric Trolling Motor
Replies: 9
Views: 2200

2007 190 Outrage: Cost to Install Electric Trolling Motor

A quote to have a Minn Kota [24-Volt electric trolling motor] installed [on my 2007 190 OUTRAGE] was between $7,000 and $8,000 depending on the battery choice, with the batteries going into the anchor locker. [Implied request: give comments on this proposal.] [Moderator's note: this thread was separ...
by jwaters58
Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:10 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Installing Electrical Outlet for Trolling Motor Above Fuel Tank
Replies: 1
Views: 2682

Installing Electrical Outlet for Trolling Motor Above Fuel Tank

[The author intends to use] the pry-out circular deck access plate that is located above the fuel tank inlet hose as a means of access to route wiring for a trolling motor. [The author then says he will] mount an electrical receptacle two inches forward of the access plate. [Implied request to reade...
by jwaters58
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:12 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 190 Outrage Trolling Motor Installation
Replies: 22
Views: 4543

Re: 190 Outrage Trolling Motor Installation

Phil, thanks for the above drawing showing the phenolic reinforcement. My boat is a 2007. Those locations probably have not changed. Q7: would there be any change of opinions if I used a gel battery in the anchor locker? I will consider putting the batteries in the cooler if necessary. I am rarely a...
by jwaters58
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:52 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 190 Outrage Trolling Motor Installation
Replies: 22
Views: 4543

Re: 190 Outrage Trolling Motor Installation

A lot of good and helpful information has been posted. Thanks.

Q2: have batteries for an electric trolling motor EVER been put in the anchor locker of a 190 OUTRAGE?

The anchor locker of a 190 OUTRAGE seems to have enough room. A leveling bottom plate would be needed.
by jwaters58
Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 190 Outrage Trolling Motor Installation
Replies: 22
Views: 4543

190 Outrage Trolling Motor Installation

I may install a trolling motor at the bow of a 190 OUTRAGE called an iPilot 24-Volt 72-inch shaft.

Give me advice on the installation.
by jwaters58
Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:17 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Navigation Lamp Not Illuminating: Solved
Replies: 7
Views: 3791

Re: Navigation Lamp Not Illuminating

With the information provided I was able to find the problem. For reference, the power was not leaving the wiring harness multiple pole connector. I separated the mating connectors and re-mated them; this restored the circuit and the problem was solved. Thanks again.
by jwaters58
Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:27 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Navigation Lamp Not Illuminating: Solved
Replies: 7
Views: 3791

Navigation Lamp Not Illuminating: Solved

Q1: how is the electrical wiring on a 2007 190 OUTRAGE routed to the bow from the console for the navigation lamp circuit? COROLLARY Q2: is the wiring path in a 2007 190 OUTRAGE concealed in the rub rail? Q3: does the wiring path in a 2008 190 OUTRAGE run through the hull? ASIDE: There is electrical...
by jwaters58
Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:41 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE
Replies: 9
Views: 6281

Re: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE

Follow up on the re-power. The break-in is not complete. With 35-gallons of fuel and no passengers, the boat speed reached 50 measured by GPS. The engine sounded good in the 26 to 28-MPH range, and was not bogging--important to me. I did not measure the time to [accelerate to hydroplane] but [the ti...
by jwaters58
Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:49 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 17 Outrage II Re-power Suzuki DF140: Six Questions
Replies: 13
Views: 7330

Re: 17 Outrage II Re-power Suzuki DF140: Six Questions

I owned a 17 Outrage II that had a Yamaha 130-HP engine, and I re-powered with a Suzuki DF140. I am an older boater and this was my first experience owning a four-stroke-power-cycle outboard engine. The Suzuki seemed to be a quality product. The DF140 engine was fuel efficient and quiet at low engin...
by jwaters58
Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE
Replies: 9
Views: 6281

Re: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE

Thanks Jim. I will do some reading about these hub kits
by jwaters58
Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:13 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE
Replies: 9
Views: 6281

Re: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE

Thanks Jim. The propeller and the engine are coming from the same dealer. The dealer said he would work with me on the propeller, but the dealer doesn't have many options at this time.
by jwaters58
Tue Sep 21, 2021 2:05 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE
Replies: 9
Views: 6281

Re: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE

Good to hear [the ENERTIA propeller may be a good choice for a 190 OUTRAGE with a Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE]. Thank you.

BACKSTORY: I hope to sell the Mercury OptiMax engine that is currently on the 190 OUTRAGE boat.
by jwaters58
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:41 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE
Replies: 9
Views: 6281

190 OUTRAGE Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE

I am re-powering a 2007 190 Outrage with a Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE with gear ratio 1.92:1. A dealer is holding an Enertia 14 x 19 propeller for me to purchase. Give recommendations for the best prop for a 2008 190 OUTRAGE with a Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE. Q1: should a propeller with stern lift be used? ...
by jwaters58
Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:01 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

Thanks Phil. Will do.
by jwaters58
Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:43 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

Masbama,
Tell me what you like and what you don't like about the 140 on your Nantucket. I found a DF 150 but ruled it out because of the wt. I have not looked for a 140 thinking it may be underpowered. Thanks. You and I communicated a few years back when I re-power the 17 Outrage. Thanks again.
by jwaters58
Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:32 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

Thanks. At this time I am leaning towards the Mercury 150 Four Stroke it is only about 30 lbs heavier than the Optimax currently on the boat. I did have a 17 Outrage with the Suzuki DF 140. It was a sweet motor but I never got the ride exactly dialed in. Always rode high in the bow. Any kind of chop...
by jwaters58
Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:29 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

As best as I can tell, the engine I was quoted was [a Mercury 150-HP] FourStroke model.

The model number written on the quote is M150 XL.

If that is not a complete model number I will get with the dealership tomorrow. Thanks.
by jwaters58
Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:29 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

The Mercury I was looking at and is available is the basic 4 stroke engine.
by jwaters58
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:07 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

For readers who have re-powered a 190 OUTRAGE with a Mercury 150 XL engine: Are you pleased with the overall performance of the 190 OUTRAGE with a Mercury 150 XL engine? Has re-powering a 190 OUTRAGE with a Mercury 150 XL produced any undesirable outcome? The Suzuki and Mercury engines are my curren...
by jwaters58
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:11 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

That is a great suggestion. Thanks. It has the original 150 OptiMax on it now.
by jwaters58
Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:38 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

Thanks for the information. The weight is a concern.
by jwaters58
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage
Replies: 16
Views: 7238

Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

Has a 190 Outrage been re-powered with a DF 150 Suzuki?

Give me advice on the combination of a Suzuki DF150 and OUTRAGE 190.

Give me advice on a propeller for a Suzuki DF150 on an OUTRAGE 190.
by jwaters58
Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: c.1999 17 OUTRAGE II PLASTIC Through-hull Drain and Scupper Replacement
Replies: 7
Views: 3276

Re: c.1999 17 OUTRAGE II Through-hull Drain and Scupper Replacement

I was referring to the fittings that drain the splash well, the fish locker, the anchor well and the scuppers on my 1999 [17] Outrage II. [The] fittings are plastic.
by jwaters58
Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: c.1999 17 OUTRAGE II PLASTIC Through-hull Drain and Scupper Replacement
Replies: 7
Views: 3276

Re: Through-hull Drain and Scupper Replacement

I purchased all of the replacement parts including scupper plugs from Sue. My boat is a 1999 and has plastic through-hull fittings. They were sealed with what looked like a putty. Sue owned the same boat I have and was extremely helpful. I maybe could have gotten the parts cheaper from non-OEM sourc...
by jwaters58
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: c.1999 17 OUTRAGE II PLASTIC Through-hull Drain and Scupper Replacement
Replies: 7
Views: 3276

c.1999 17 OUTRAGE II PLASTIC Through-hull Drain and Scupper Replacement

My more-than-20-year-old OUTRAGE 17 [later clarified to be a 1999 model year 17 OUTRAGE II in a follow-up post] boat is on a lift or on the trailer when it's not being used. I saw water weeping from under the flange of the scupper and from some of the through-hull fittings. I decide to replace the [...
by jwaters58
Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Engine Mounting Bolt Torque
Replies: 5
Views: 4003

Re: Engine Mounting Bolt Torque

Thanks for the replies.
by jwaters58
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Engine Mounting Bolt Torque
Replies: 5
Views: 4003

Engine Mounting Bolt Torque

When the engine mounting height is changed, what is the proper torque on the engine mounting bolts?

I have a 17 Outrage II with a Suzuki DF140.
by jwaters58
Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 Trim Tabs
Replies: 9
Views: 17623

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 Trim Tabs

Thanks everyone for the info.
by jwaters58
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 Trim Tabs
Replies: 9
Views: 17623

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 Trim Tabs

Thanks for this info.
by jwaters58
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 Trim Tabs
Replies: 9
Views: 17623

1997 Outrage 17 Trim Tabs

I may install trim tabs on my 1997 Outrage 17. Give me a recommendation on which trim tabs to use.

What should I watch out for [when installing trim tabs on a 1997 OUTRAGE 17]?

I re-powered with a heavy engine and the boat runs bow-high. You take a pretty good beating in a chop .

Thanks
by jwaters58
Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1997 17 OUTRAGE II Fish Locker Gas Struts Manufacturer’s Part Number
Replies: 3
Views: 7832

Re: Fish locker struts

Thank you for the information. I love the drawing.
by jwaters58
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:54 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1997 17 OUTRAGE II Fish Locker Gas Struts Manufacturer’s Part Number
Replies: 3
Views: 7832

1997 17 OUTRAGE II Fish Locker Gas Struts Manufacturer’s Part Number

My 1997 17 Outrage II came with gas struts on the fish locker door.

What is the manufacturer’s part number for the gas struts?

Mine are completely gone.
by jwaters58
Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:59 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

To finish this one up, the Suzuki 14 x 20 propeller is the best option. The bow comes down quickly when transitioning to plane. The Suzuki DF140 accelerated to 6200-RPM at full throttle with boat speed 43-MPH. At 4300-RPM the boat speed is around 30-MPH. Over all I am happy with the set up. Thanks f...
by jwaters58
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

The engine mounting height is one-hole-up.

Every propeller I have run so far has been made by Solas.

I am not sure of the brand of the “20” propeller that is is being ordered from Suzuki.

We are in the Wolf Bay area.
by jwaters58
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

The “listen to the the engine” advice is good solid advice. The 21 pitch prop did well at 4400 to , 28 to 30 mph. I pulled 6000 at wot trimmed . The dealer I bought the motor from wants me to try a 20. I plug for this guy:. If anyone here is in coastal Alabama or NW Florida,. Bill at Cotton Country ...
by jwaters58
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

Thanks for the responses. The motor was rigged with a 17 pitch 3 blade Solus. It was way off the mark. I ran a 19 today and it is closer to what i think it should be. Just picked up a 21 and will update after I run it. Thanks again.
by jwaters58
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:32 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

I went with the Suzuki DF140 engine. I am working through the break-in. The manual says one hour and 45 minutes at 3000-RPM. The Suzuki DF140 engine really bogs at that engine speed. To any readers who have a Suzuki DF140 or DF115 engine: what propeller does your engine have? I am slightly underwhel...
by jwaters58
Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:10 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

Thanks for the reply. Nothing is better than real world experience.
by jwaters58
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:37 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

Re: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

Thanks for the replies.

For VTVFR to answer:

Q: Did the [OUTRAGE 17 II] boat with the 425-lbs [E-TEC] engine weight do “ok”?

Q: Were trim tabs needed?

Q: Did water come in the boat via scuppers when the boat was not underway?
by jwaters58
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power
Replies: 23
Views: 19674

1997 Outrage 17 II Re-power

The Yamaha 115-HP engine on my 1997 OUTRAGE 17 has died. I may buy a Yamaha F115 or Suzuki 130.

Any information [about the re-powering of an OUTRAGE 17] you may give me is appreciated.