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by davidvee
Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:29 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

UPDATE JULY 2021. The 1985 OUTRAGE 18 is running great. The fuel tank is dry. The deck still looks good, is super-stiff, and no rot is possible. All boat systems are good. In retrospect, the fuel tank should have been fabricated 4-inches shorter to leave room at the aft end to install a deck access ...
by davidvee
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Finally Done

[The restoration of the 1986 OUTRAGE 18 is finally done.] outragedavidvee_.jpg The new laminated fiberglass and PVC sheet deck is very stiff and strong, even after a shakedown season of many long trips to Martha's Vineyard, Boston, Narragansett, and other ports. The new fuel tank was installed witho...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: RACOR Fuel Filter Clear Bowl Falls Off
Replies: 9
Views: 12311

Re: RACOR Fuel Filter Clear Bowl Falls Off

Racor finally agreed to send me a free replacement made of impervious plastic, so i hope this is it.
by davidvee
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

Re cost of DIVINYCELL H: a 4 x 8-foot sheet of 3/4-inch DIVINYCELL H retails for about $200. See http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/Product_Catalog/Core_Materials/core_materials.html Curiously, DIVINYCELL H is described as "a rigid PVC foam with a closed, inert gas filled cellular structure."...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

Aesthetic reasons are often critical elements in the long-lasting and on-going attraction of classic Boston Whaler boats to their owners, so I would not discard the preservation of the original aesthetic of a classic Boston Whaler boat as an inconsequential outcome of using PVC sheet material to re...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

Q11: are any other decorative and long-lasting materials available? I looked at every option and i think PVC sheet is the best. as long as the PVC sheet is reinforced with fiberglass in the right way, i.e., two layers of roving with a pattern of holes filled with thickened resin; this deck will las...
by davidvee
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

I saw GAMBLER’s deck, and though beautiful, eventually it will rot from the inside if the tank is in foam.
by davidvee
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

jimh wrote:That you met Peter Van Lancker is quite interesting...
Van Lanker is a funny guy, very knowledgeable. He is also a member of continuous wave, so watch out, he might pop in here at some point.
by davidvee
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

I would have used a modern coring...like DIVINYCELL..... I looked at DIVINYCELL H and actually tried it on a portion of my earlier bass boat renovation. DIVINYCELL H worked well in a small area, but over an entire deck I worried that it would be very expensive, too brittle, and might crack under st...
by davidvee
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

Q10: Again in regard to Figure 10, is the new deck made up of more than one 3/4-inch-thickness of the PVC sheet material? It looks like perhaps two sheets were used, with the upper sheet the full size and the second sheet somewhat smaller. ASIDE: David--you have more gray hair than I expected to se...
by davidvee
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

{REPLY EDITED TO SEPARATE RESPONSE FROM QUOTED MATERIAL. The replies were buried in a long quote and hard to detect.--jimh] Q5: What happened to the original deck? {The original deck was] tossed. It was a rotting nasty hulk. I wanted [the deck] to be rot proof Q6: If the next step is to re-wire, doe...
by davidvee
Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: BASS BOAT 16: Camping at Waquoit Bay
Replies: 4
Views: 12246

Re: Camping at Waqoit Bay

jimh wrote:Is that part of the Waquoit Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve? Or at the Washburn Island Day and Camping site?

[The location shown] is both [in the Waquoit Bay Estuarine Research Reserve and on Washburn Island].
by davidvee
Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

Deck is in. 16aa.jpg I used Total Boat resin from Jamestown Distributors. I chose the 2:1 ratio resin:hardener to give extended set time, to create more flex, and to reduce brittleness. 17a.jpg 18a.jpg To seal the new deck to the hull a bead of silicon sealant was used. There are stainless steel scr...
by davidvee
Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:15 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: RACOR Fuel Filter Clear Bowl Falls Off
Replies: 9
Views: 12311

Re: RACOR Fuel Filter Clear Bowl Falls Off

[What is] a replacement filter without a bowl that will spin-on to the mount I have now?
by davidvee
Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: RACOR Fuel Filter Clear Bowl Falls Off
Replies: 9
Views: 12311

RACOR Fuel Filter Clear Bowl Falls Off

Recently my RACOR fuel filter started dropping its clear plastic bowl in the bilge making a big mess, and even happened while underway. What is going on? I have had the system for 15 years, and have replaced the filter element each year, But now the bowl threads won't grip. Q1: Is [the cause] just o...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: Where to Buy PVC Sheet at Home Depot

Acassidy wrote:Q1: how do you buy 3/4-inch PVC sheet from Home Depot?
Q2: what is it called?

[It is called "Veranda White Reversible PVC Trim Sheet]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-HP-3-4-in-x-48-in-x-8-ft-White-Reversible-PVC-Trim-Sheet-H190AWS13/206822526
by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: BASS BOAT 16: Camping at Waquoit Bay
Replies: 4
Views: 12246

BASS BOAT 16: Camping at Waquoit Bay

bassboat16a.jpg I've had this modified 1972 BASS BOAT 16 for 20-years. It is a great all-round fishing and adventure boat, and has gone from Bar Harbor to Montauk. The engine is a Tohatsu 70-HP. [The spelling of WAQUOIT Bay throughout this discussion has been corrected to the standard spelling.--ji...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

The original fuel tank, as originally installed by Boston Whaler, after 33-years in use in saltwater:

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Fig. 14. Tank with foam surround and aluminum hold down bars at age 33-years.
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Fig. 15. Fuel pick-up fitting.
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Fig. 16. Florida Marine Tank label.
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by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

12aa.jpg As shown above the wood core of the foredeck from a BASS BOAT 16 [not the boat under discussion] was completely rotted from water wicking through the fiberglass over 15 years. After repair it is super strong. 13a.jpg As seen above [not the boat under discussion], holes were made in the PVC...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

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Fig. 11. Tank label
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by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

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Fig. 8. PVC sheet reinforcement being prepared.
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Fig. 9. Seam on new PVC reinforcement for deck. A router was used to make a 2-inch rabbit joint on both pieces, then PVC plumber's cement glued them together. The PVC is the same PVC material as plumbing pipes.
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Fig. 10. View of underside of new 3/4-inch thick PVC deck with reinforcements. Around the perimeter material has been removed to restore a flush fit with the existing deck.
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by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:56 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: Home Depot Link

Acassidy wrote:Q1: how do you buy 3/4-inch PVC sheet from Home Depot?
Q2: What is it called?


[It is called "Veranda White Reversible PVC Trim Sheet]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Veranda-HP-3-4-in-x-48-in-x-8-ft-White-Reversible-PVC-Trim-Sheet-H190AWS13/206822526
by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:43 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

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Fig. 5. The fuel tank installed in the tank cavity. A 3/4-inch PVC sheet material is used to fill the space between the tank and the aluminum hold-down bar.
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Fig. 6. A drawing provided by Luther's of the fuel tank dimensions with some added notes in pencil.
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Fig. 7. Fuel tank in place and PVC padding installed on sides of tank.
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by davidvee
Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

[To install] the new aluminum tank from Luther's as recommended, no foam was used, only PVC pads glued to the tank with 3M5200. The glue must form a perfect seal to keep water from getting between the pads and the metal. I reused the [original] aluminum straps over a PVC sheet to secure the tank. Th...
by davidvee
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

Re: Drawing attached

Attached is a good drawing showing details of the fuel tank fabricated for the OUTRAGE 18 by Luther's of Bristol, Rhode Island.

vergara whaler tank.pdf
Fabrication drawing of new fuel tank for OUTRAGE 18 made by Luther's.
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by davidvee
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank
Replies: 40
Views: 55087

1986 OUTRAGE 18 Replace Deck with PVC Sheet; New Fuel Tank

My son and I just bought a 1986 OUTRAGE 18. We have replaced the fuel tank with a new one and built a new deck from 3/4-inch-thick PVC. The fuel tank was installed without foam. The tank maker, Luther's in Bristol, Rhode Island, strongly recommended not using foam. Instead of a foam surround, PVC ma...