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- Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:10 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Fuel Tank Fastening System Retrospective
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3325
Re: Fuel Tank Fastening System Retrospective
Phil, If I were to [redo the installation of a new fuel tank] again. I would foam-in the tank and [apply a sealing top coat] over the top [of the foam] using fiberglass [resin and cloth]. It was a tremendous amount of work to prevent water from accessing the fuel tank cavity from all directions inte...
- Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:42 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1979 SPORT 15 Full Refit
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2616
Re: 1979 SPORT 15 Full Refit
Very nice!
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:31 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7177
Re: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
I never hit a rev limiter or even know what the limit is set on a 90hp OMC motor from those years. Is it possible he hit the rev limit and the shutdown caused his knocking sound?
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:49 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hard Polyurethane Self-centering Keel Rollers; Gel Coat Damage
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1538
Re: Hard Polyurethane Self-centering Keel Rollers; Gel Coat Damage
I have used the self-centering rollers, and they do work well. But, they aren't as strong as non-centering and can crack on larger boats. Most brands are junk for anything other than very light boats; through trial and error I found that the Stoltz brand rollers hold up the best. Don't try to use ro...
- Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:34 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7177
Re: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
Again thanks for all the input... Kend--I want to make sure that you realize how serious this is. If that VRO isn't oiling correctly when you switch to raw gas you can be ruining that motor for good. There is no second chance on damage due to lack of lubrication. And, 5-ounces to 5-gallons is not n...
- Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:26 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7177
Re: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
All the replies were helpful, to answer a few questions, the vro was rebuilt at the time the engine was rebuilt, the noise or knocking sounded like a Diesel engine starting but stopped as soon as the engine came back to a lower rpm , I ran it agin for about 5 minutes at a high speed but not all out...
- Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:17 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
- Replies: 38
- Views: 7177
Re: 1986 Johnson 90 Makes Knocking Noise
VRO systems were also not the best... Absolutely agree about VRO Systems not being the best. Some say VRO's got a bad rap and if maintained correctly they were good. I say there is no reason to take a chance on ruining your outboard engine. I bought my 1992 Johnson GT 200 new and disconnected the V...
- Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:17 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Fuel Tank Fastening System Retrospective
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3325
Re: Fuel Tank Fastening System Retrospective
When I've replaced tanks, I always foam them in. Foam locks the tank in place and also support the bottom and sides, foam also removes any space where gas vapors can collect. Water will eventually get into a tank cavity (cavity where the tank is placed). However, on the Whaler outrage models, the d...
- Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:24 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Fuel Tank Fastening System Retrospective
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3325
Fuel Tank Fastening System Retrospective
FUEL TANK FASTENING SYSTEM I wanted something incredibly strong to hold in place the new fuel tank I was installing on my REVENGE 22 because I was not going to foam-in-place the new fuel tank. I didn't have a way to weld aluminum so I needed to utilize stainless screws, nuts, and bolts to construct ...
- Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:53 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Tips on Applying Paint
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1671
Re: Paint vs Gel Coat
I used Awlgrip on my 1980 Revenge 22 restoration because the gelcoat was in horrible condition. I use my boat in harsh sandy salt water environments and after four years of service the Awlgrip has held up tremendously well. As a comparison, the person I bought the boat from had painted it with singl...
- Sun Jun 05, 2022 2:00 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4292
Re: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
Can fiberglass tubes be used as replacement drain tubes in saltwater with success? LONG BACK STORY I just received four feet of the [Max Gain Systems] one-inch-ID tube. I think roughing up the fiberglass tubes [and then applying a] few coats of WEST Systems epoxy would seal the tubes. If the [the f...
- Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:13 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4292
Re: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
There has to be fiberglass tubes available made with epoxy that would be less expensive than carbon fiber tubes. Fiberglass tubes should not be able to cause galvanic corrosion either. Carbon Fiber tubes can cause galvanic corrosion if they contact metal. But I would think a rubber boat plug should ...
- Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:56 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4292
Re: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
The brass drain tubes used by Boston Whaler in the 1980's may have been economical for the factory and acceptable in the early years of the Boston Whaler boat production, but brass tubes as drain tubes have been found by some to be a major culprit leading to water intrusion into the foam core of Un...
- Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:03 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4292
Re: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
What is the permeability to water intrusion of the fiberglass tubes? The lower end of the drain tubes are typically always immersed in water. If a Unibond hull boat lives in water, is there a reasonable concern for the fiberglass tubes becoming saturated with water at their below-the-waterline end?...
- Tue May 31, 2022 11:17 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4292
Hull Drains: Using Fiberglass Tubes to Replace Brass Tubes
The brass drain tubes used by Boston Whaler in the 1980's may have been economical for the factory and acceptable in the early years of the Boston Whaler boat production, but brass tubes as drain tubes have been found by some to be a major culprit leading to water intrusion into the foam core of Uni...
- Sat May 28, 2022 4:09 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 2000 Mercury FourStroke 90 Voltage Regulator
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3054
Re: 2000 Mercury FourStroke 90 voltage regulator
If you are positive the part from Yamaha will work. It is worth every penny to buy Yamaha factory parts. Especially electronic parts.
- Sat May 28, 2022 12:59 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1984 REVENGE 22 CUDDY Transom Drain
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1987
Re: 1984 REVENGE 22 CUDDY Transom Drain
I just removed the transom drain tube and it was mostly gone. Boat was sitting wrapped for last 2 years and transom is not dripping water now that the drain was removed. It is slightly damp . After 2 years I'm surprised the transom is still damp unless the wrap leaked water into your motor well. Th...
- Fri May 27, 2022 10:48 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1984 REVENGE 22 CUDDY Transom Drain
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1987
Re: 1984 REVENGE 22 CUDDY Transom Drain
How far water will rise in the starboard aft cockpit sump when the through-hull drain is not plugged will depend on the weight on the boat and its distribution. I suspect that at the time of the original design and production of the 22-foot hull, rigging with a single outboard engine of that era wo...
- Thu May 26, 2022 6:19 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1984 REVENGE 22 CUDDY Transom Drain
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1987
Re: 1984 REVENGE 22 CUDDY Transom Drain
My 1980 Revenge 22 had a black ball scupper at both the transom drain and the transom side of the tube between the below deck fish well and deep motor well. They were original from the factory but no longer available so I replaced the one on my transom with a T-H Marine Flow Max Ball Scupper. There ...
- Thu May 26, 2022 10:21 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Another Reminder: UNSINKABLE Boston Whaler
- Replies: 2
- Views: 891
Re: Another Reminder: UNSINKABLE Boston Whaler
My personal rules before I decide to fish with someone on the ocean in their boat. Does it float upside down? Does it have two motors? I prefer a main motor and a kicker motor over twins. Often problems occur that can take out both twins while a kicker motor has the advantage of being tilted in the ...
- Thu May 19, 2022 8:19 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Caulk for Gunwales and Rub Rails
- Replies: 3
- Views: 778
Re: Caulk for Gunwales/Rub rails
Thanks Phil, I saw that guys were using OSI Quad #450 on their floor sections such as the fuel tank cover. If I ever have to re-do the floor sections I will defintely use the OSI Quad #450. I had not seen where anyone used OSI Quad #450 on the gunwales. OSI Quad #450 should work great with fiberglas...
- Thu May 19, 2022 8:06 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Re-doing Fuel Hose Rigging on Twin Engine Boat
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5604
Re: Re-doing Fuel Hose Rigging on Twin Engine Boat
If there is no corrosion the original design should be sufficient. My concern is how are the tubes sealed in the wall between the Fish Box/Well and the Drain sump? That pass through needs to be sealed well so water doesn't get around the tubes and into your foam core.
- Thu May 19, 2022 1:39 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Caulk for Gunwales and Rub Rails
- Replies: 3
- Views: 778
Caulk for Gunwales and Rub Rails
For maintenance I'm adding a couple coats of varnish to the gunwales on my 1980 Revenge 22. When I originally restored them in 2019 (three years ago) I used 3M4200 Fast Cure adhesive sealer on the rub rails, the seams, and the fuel fill because I had some left over from my restoration. The 3M4200FC ...
- Sun May 08, 2022 10:19 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Wood Care
- Replies: 5
- Views: 973
Re: Wood Care
I totally agree with everything said above. If you want to put the time in the oil based varnish's look the best. But, it takes a tremendous amount of time, effort and if it is on the outside of the boat, maintenance will take a tremendous amount of time as well. While restoring my boat I began the ...
- Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:59 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1987 REVENGE 22 Hull Construction
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2080
Re: 1987 REVENGE 22 Hull Construction
...I was thinking [the four circles in the aft well] were injection points for the foam, as well. The foam is not injected. A liquid compound is poured into the space between the hull and liner. A chemical reaction very rapidly turns the liquid into an expanding foam. To insure venting of air, a nu...
- Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:24 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1987 REVENGE 22 Hull Construction
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2080
Re: 1987 REVENGE 22 Hull Construction
In my 1984 Outrage 22, the circles are present. I am not sure what they are--perhaps injection points for foam that are glassed over after set up? (Not likely as they seem to have gel coat in place and are recessed into the surface of the liner.) Or just rejection pin points for the liner mold? It ...
- Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:23 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1985 REVENGE 22 Replacement Fuel Tank
- Replies: 2
- Views: 761
Re: 1985 REVENGE 22 Replacement Fuel Tank
Florida Marine Tanks manufactured the original tank. Depending on where you are located [the cost of shipment of a new take by] freight gets crazy. Pull out the fuel tank--it is easy. Take the fuel tank to a local fabricator and have a copy made. Some fabricators do not want to make fuel tanks for r...
- Thu Mar 24, 2022 12:19 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 2003 MONTAUK 17 Bait Tank Location
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2190
Re: 2003 MONTAUK 17 Bait Tank Location
I'm considering putting about a 10-gallon bait tank on a 2003 MONTAUK 17... Adding a bait tank to the swim platform is very common here out west. The bait tanks need to drain over the side or through drain tubes, so puitting the bait tank on the swim platform makes draining easy. On a 22-foot [non-...
- Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:10 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
Marine-Tex is an odd epoxy. The mixing ratio of resin and hardener is done in very strange proportion. It also contains fillers. It is a hardware-store adhesive filler shortcut. I used quarts of Marine-Tex and gallons West Systems epoxy during the restoration of my 1980 Revenge 22. Both are premium...
- Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:11 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
...I plan ...use 1/2" Schedule 40 PVC pipe (the white PVC pipe from HomeDepot) and use Marine-Tex to bind/seal it Stay completely away from PVC. Sealants and epoxy don't stick well to PVC, water may be able to gain access to the hull foam core. Also, PVC gets old and brittle over time. Fibergl...
- Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: OUTRAGE 22: Converting to 122 gallon Fuel Capacity
- Replies: 3
- Views: 948
Re: OUTRAGE 22: Converting to 122 gallon Fuel Capacity
If you feel that you need that much fuel I'm sure it can be done. The bulkhead between the fuel tank cavity and the rear fish box will have to be cut out. The cut out area will need reinforcement with fiberglass. Figures 1, 2, and 3 shown my 1980 Revenge 22 without the foam around the tank being rep...
- Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:54 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Fairing compound
- Replies: 1
- Views: 601
Re: Fairing compound
Amazon is showing Total Fair in stock....It's good stuff!
- Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:52 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Guardian 18: Advice on Multiple Problems
- Replies: 3
- Views: 847
Re: Guardian 18 pre-inspections HELP
I totally agree with Phil about pulling all of the drain tubes and letting the hull air out as much as possible. Also, if you are painting the hull; I highly recommend you save yourself the headache of installing brass tubes and replace them with fiberglass tubing instead. Fiberglass tubes are easy ...
- Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:47 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
Jim: Your description of how “awkward” it is to access the drain plug in your drain sump due to the stern seat adds to the value of this topic relating to the classic 22’ Revenge and because they share the same hull liner the Outrage 22 models. Anyone looking to purchase or restore a Classic Boston ...
- Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:10 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Whaler Central
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4772
Re: Whaler Central
Bummer, I hate to see any Boston Whaler information go away.
- Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:07 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
Jim--thank you for posting the links to the original owners manual. I had never seen the manual before and only understood how the 22 Outrage and Revenge models drain from removing all the deck covers while restoring my Revenge 22. One topic I noticed in the owners' manual that is incredibly relevan...
- Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:16 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
The text below appeared in picture of a Boston Whaler owner's manual found on-line. It explains the drains on 20' and 22' hulls. [Moderator's note: the text below differs from the text in the original printed manual I have. Please see my comment below-jimh] 20 Outboard Models There are five drain tu...
- Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:50 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Re-doing Fuel Hose Rigging on Twin Engine Boat
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5604
Re: Re-doing Fuel Hose Rigging on Twin Engine Boat
That is a very nice boat! I sure wish we had more Classic Whalers out here on the west coast. It is very hard, or nearly impossible to find a model we want in good condition.
- Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:16 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
This topic about hull drains on the Revenge 22 which are also the same on the Outrage 22 during the same production years has some very good information for people replacing their fuel tanks. This topic explains how it is incredibly important to add a drain tube and rubber inspection plug between th...
- Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:25 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
Steelhead 55--you did a nice job restoring your original plastic fuel tank. I wish my boat had a plastic tank instead of aluminum. Q17: How did you pour the foam and prevent it from getting under the fuel tank? I thought about doing something similar on my Revenge 22 but couldn't think of a way to d...
- Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:09 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
In my opinion, your modification is useful. I presume that the lowest point in the fuel tank cavity must be slighter higher than the lowest point in the aft cockpit live well, and that facilitates the water draining out of the fuel tank cavity and into the live well. Due to the modifications I made...
- Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:10 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
VANCE--in Figure 6 is that drain between the fuel tank cavity and the [aft cockpit live well] at the bottom of each something you added? When I replaced the fuel tank I didn't foam-in-place the tank. That is why you see the extreme bracing along the top and on each end of the fuel tank. Without the...
- Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:25 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
Another through hull tube I wonder if I need it is the brass tube between the live well and the transom well. The end of this tube on the transom well has a ball inside a housing. I think the ball is allowing water to go from live well to the transom well but not from transom well to live well. Q9:...
- Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:51 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
On my 1987 REVENGE 22 there are (basically) three through-hull pipes in this topic. ⋅ the "mysterious one" you see in [Figure 1--please refer to image by their figure number], at the fuel-fill and cabin area, which I will call pipe-1. ⋅ another one at the end of the po...
- Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:24 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Fuel Tank: Removal without damage to Foam; Test PSI
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3490
Re: Fuel Tank: Removal without damage to Foam; Test PSI
It is sad that I have to get rid of those foam on an unsinkable boat. The reserve buoyancy of the hull with the cockpit is flooded is listed by Boston Whaler as the SWAMPED CAPACITY in lbs. For the 22-foot hull as a REVENGE, the swamped capacity is 5,000-lbs. By removing a few cubic feet in foam vo...
- Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:01 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Fuel Tank: Removal without damage to Foam; Test PSI
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3490
Re: Fuel Tank: Removal without damage to Foam; Test PSI
Thanks everyone for valuable opinions. It is sad that I have to get rid of those foam on an unsinkable boat. I probably get a camera to see the inside and pressure test first and go from there. Thanks again. I have to say I highly recommend that you remove and inspect the tank. Even fresh water in ...
- Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:45 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
It is possible to be critical of the design of the REVENGE, but I don't find that water in the fuel tank cavity is a big problem. The foam is generally not susceptible to becoming totally saturated with water. In the very rare instance I have seen water sitting atop the foam, it has only been in a ...
- Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:26 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
- Replies: 39
- Views: 31006
Re: REVENGE 22 Hull Drains
I completely stripped my 1980 Revenge 22 during my rebuild and have been where you are now. You ask very good questions about Boston Whaler's design to drain water under the deck. The answer is all water that runs under the deck on the port side is eventually directed to the top of the fuel tank. Th...
- Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:54 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1985 Outrage 18 Purpose of small rope
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3181
Re: 1985 Outrage 18 Purpose of small rope
Although a different hull. My 1980 Revenge 22 had a rope in the starboard rigging tunnel similar to yours which looked factory installed. The rope might have been a good idea for rigging. But the way it was installed was a horrible idea. The rope simply passed through a hole drilled at the end of th...
- Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:20 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Seafoam Testimonials
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3613
Re: Seafoam Testimonials
My river boat has a 1992 Johnson GT 200 on it that I bought new. As soon as the warranty ran out I disconnected the VRO and began premixing my fuel. I run a jet on this motor the majority of each year and guided Salmon with it until 2008 so it has been run hard. Jets are so inefficient they work the...