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Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight
Replies: 11
Views: 147

### Re: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight

I don't know how to answer your question because I don't know the extent of the intrusion of water into the rigid foam between the inner and outer hulls, and I don't know the method the surveyor used to detect the water. I suspect that it may be possible to find "water" in some part of eve...
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: BOATING Magazine: Bad Math Returns
Replies: 3
Views: 74

### Re: BOATING Magazine: Bad Math Returns

RICH--a very good solution. Here is another approach to the problem, a bit more complicated: First we convert \$4 into the number of gallons that must be saved: \$4 x 1-gallon/\$3.80 = 1.053 gallons. To solve for the number miles needed to create a difference in fuel consumption of 1.053 gallons, we le...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:43 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: BOATING Magazine: Bad Math Returns
Replies: 3
Views: 74

### Re: BOATING Magazine: Bad Math Returns

Here is a little math problem. It is a bit harder than it looks at first glance. A person wants to rent a car. The rental company has two similar cars, A and B. Their fuel economy is: Car A = 17-MPG and is bigger and roomier Car B = 22-MPG and is smaller and not so roomy Interestingly the rental rat...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Replies: 1
Views: 38

I have tested a number of three-blade propellers and a couple four-blade propellers on my boat. I settled on the three-blade as the best all-round propeller. I also liked it because I already owned it, while the four-blade propellers were going to be a \$600 expense. While your results are in conflic...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: BOATING Magazine: Bad Math Returns
Replies: 3
Views: 74

### BOATING Magazine: Bad Math Returns

In a prior article I commented about the data presented in a BOATING magazine "certified" boat test , in which the data showed that a boat with a 300-HP VERADO engine was able to get a fuel economy of 54.5-MPH at full throttle. I recently came across another boat test in BOATING magazine t...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 210 OUTRAGE Replacing Scuppers
Replies: 4
Views: 109

### Re: 210 OUTRAGE Replacing Scuppers

...foam is what is keeping boat afloat... A boat floats when the weight of the water that is displaced by the hull is greater than the weight of the hull. The purpose of the foam in a Boston Whaler boat is to fill interior spaces between the outer hull and the inner hull so that water cannot occupy...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: EVINRUDE I-COMMAND, ICON Pro, ICON Touch
Topic: G2 digital to analog converter
Replies: 2
Views: 30

### Re: G2 digital to analog converter

The instructions are vague on how to hook up this system to a tachometer and on what to leave on and what to take off. If you have a specific question, I can try to help with a specific answer. I don't have an answer for your implied question regarding "what to leave on" and "what to...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: EVINRUDE I-COMMAND, ICON Pro, ICON Touch
Topic: G2 digital to analog converter
Replies: 2
Views: 30

### Re: G2 digital to analog converter

Since you are self-installing the rigging, do you have the Evinrude G2 Pre-delivery and Installation manual? A drawing titled "09_Mechanical Remote Controls – MCM Converter Set up for Analog Gauge Display" gives a pictorial view of the wiring. Several other diagrams also show the wiring of...
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:59 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: FS: 1999 Dauntless 18, \$21,500 in Alabama
Replies: 3
Views: 223

### Re: FS: 1999 Dauntless 18, \$21,500 in Alabama

Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Outboard for 15-footer
Replies: 1
Views: 68

### Re: Outboard for 15-footer

A 75-HP engine will be a good choice for a 15-footer. For advice on how to evaluate readings of cylinder pressure see Assessing Used Outboard Engines http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/outboardCheck.html I don’t know how to predict future problems that could occur with the engine under discu...
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 13-footer as First Boat
Replies: 1
Views: 72

### Re: 13-footer as First Boat

Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:39 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60

One experienced MONTAUK owner has suggested that engine weight should be limited; his MONTAUK boat's bow rose and the whole boat flipped over in very high wind conditions (with winds above 60-MPH), and he felt too much engine weight on the transom aggravated the problem. He had a SUZUKI DF70 four-st...
Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight
Replies: 11
Views: 147

### Re: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight

Hmm--I just called Don J to check whether his 25 WALKAROUND had that center support in the Whaler Drive: it does not. Perhaps on the 25 WALKAROUND the boat has so much beam that the Whaler Drive is a much bigger structure than on the narrower hulls, and it doesn't need the center support. On my Whal...
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Re-power SUPER SPORT 15 with 115-HP
Replies: 13
Views: 1408

### Re: Re-power SUPER SPORT 15 with 115-HP

If a 90-HP can turn a 21-pitch propeller, it goes without saying the boat is going to be fast. A 90-HP is usually turning a 15 or 17-pitch.
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60

Mattwarner wrote:How [will a 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60] perform on a classic Montauk?

A MFS60 probably won't perform as well on a classic MONTAUK 17 as an Evinrude E-TEC 90. The E-TEC 90 has been a very popular choice for re-power of classic MONTAUK 17 boats.
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 150 MONTAUK 60-HP Aluminum Propeller
Replies: 4
Views: 68

### Re: 150 MONTAUK 60-HP Aluminum Propeller

Hello. I have a ...VENGEANCE 14-pitch propeller, Mercury part number 48-17314. This propeller uses the Mercury FLO-TORQ hub system. With different components the FLO-TORQ hub system permits this propeller to be used on many engines from other other manufacturers, and, conversely, permits many prope...
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:36 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

Bob--there is an old saying about statistical data: "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics."
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:47 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 150 MONTAUK 60-HP Aluminum Propeller
Replies: 4
Views: 68

### Re: 150 MONTAUK 60-HP Aluminum Propeller

...I would like to purchase an aluminum propeller [because] the boat will be kept at a summer house on a shallow bay with a few family members using the boat. I would hate to have them damage the stainless steel VENGEANCE propeller, and more importantly the damage the SS propeller can do to the low...
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 150 MONTAUK 60-HP Aluminum Propeller
Replies: 4
Views: 68

### Re: 150 MONTAUK 60-HP Aluminum Propeller

Q1: Will an aluminum 14-pitch propeller [produce performance that is] similar to the VENGEANCE 14-pitch? With just 60-HP, the performance change when switching to an aluminum propeller will not be great. Q2: what diameter is the VENGEANCE? You can measure that yourself. Or, search on the part numbe...
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60 Specifications

If the new Tohatsue engine now identified as MFS60 is a derivative of the previous model MFS50, then we may assume the MFS60 might be a four-stroke-power-cycle three-cylinder 886-cc displacement engine. Or, perhaps the displacement was increased slightly to get the additional 10-HP. The MFS50 in sho...
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60

The deleted picture of text said: NEW FOR 2019 THE 60HP IS THE LIGHTEST IN IT'S (sic) CLASS. When it comes to our engineering, the MFS60 has been created to better fit our customers with simple architecture, easy to use interface, ultra low emission, and absolute quality. LEGACY Passed down from the...
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60 and Possible Mercury version

Since Tohatsu's biggest customer is Brunswick, which buys a lot of smaller horsepower engines from Tohatsu and rebadges them as Mercury, I wonder if this (yet to be seen) lighter 60-HP engine will be coming out with a Mercury decal on the cowling. It so, then maybe Boston Whaler will be using them o...
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

There is a big difference between the 2017 and [earlier] Montauk and the 2018 and newer Montauk... The price difference is big, too. \$33,685 is an increase from \$17,655 of \$16,030. That is an increase in price of 91-percent. The price of a 17-foot MONTAUK has just about doubled in 17 years. Accordi...
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:01 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP

According to the TOHATSU website, their 60-HP model BFT60 weighs 243-lbs. Cf.: https://www.tohatsu.com/outboards/60_4st.html I am confused by the citation of a TOHATSU 60-HP that weighs 217-lbs. Where do we find the specification for this engine and what is its model designator? Is the new (but not ...
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 Tohatsu 60-HP Model MFS60
Replies: 12
Views: 288

### Re: Tohatsu 2019 60 HP outboard

Mattwarner wrote:...The [MONTAUK 17 with 60-HP] would be a nice low weight, and probably a decent saving over a Yamaha F70.

A "decent savings" in what respect?
In weight?
In money?
Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight
Replies: 11
Views: 147

### Re: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight

...I own a 2002 F250 Superduty Diesel ... That is the sort of truck you need, so you've got that part of the problem mostly solved. As you mentioned, total towed weight does tend to creep up with larger boats. I cannot offer much commentary on the 27 OFFSHORE and its ride, but I do love the look of...
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

As for the 170 MONTAUK, I have to mention its original price when introduced in 2002: \$17,655. That was a VERY affordable price just 17-years ago, compared to \$42,000 today.

Compare at:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/170Montauk/
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

From what I can see on WHALER.COM today, the base price of a 190 and 170 MONTAUK are: 190 MONTAUK = \$47,497 170 MONTAUK = \$33,685 There is a \$13,813 difference in base price. I would be very surprised if a 190 MONTAUK and 170 MONTAUK could be bought for "near" the same price. As a percenta...
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:46 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

The Whaler build it feature does show MSRP for the boat and the individual options. I guess I must have been looking at larger boats on WHALER.COM, which, as I recall, were not shown with prices, but directed customers to inquire with a dealer. Perhaps the website has been changed back to showing M...
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 MONTAUK 17 Transom Defect
Replies: 3
Views: 144

### Re: 1985 MONTAUK 17 Transom Repair

The green line joint looks to be intact. It appears that there is weakness in the transom. Perhaps there was water in the transom. It is unusual that the weakness has appeared at the top, as water would be expected to migrate to the bottom of the transom. Perhaps the trailer tie-down exerted too muc...
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

The price for a component, like a bow cushion, could be higher when purchased separately as a part purchase instead of when purchased as part of a boat package. As a part purchase, the component has to be boxed and shipped. Packaging and shipping a large part like a bow cushion could add additional ...
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight
Replies: 11
Views: 147

### Re: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight

Regarding what engines in c.1991 would have given 550-HP on the transom: I think you could have bought an OMC V8 4.0-liter 275-HP engine in that era. I would expect that a V8 outboard would have been in the 550-lbs per engine category, if not more. So twin 275-HP V8 OMC engines would probably have b...
Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight
Replies: 11
Views: 147

### Re: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight

ASIDE: the 25 WALKAROUND Whaler Drive is a fantastic boat. I don't know why they called it a "25". It is much bigger than the OUTRAGE 25 hull. It has a 9-foot 6-inch beam and is 27-feet long. It is really a very big boat. The only downside to the 25 WALKAROUND Whaler Drive is the beam: too...
Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1991 Walkaround 25 Maximum Rated Power and Transom Weight
Replies: 11
Views: 147

### Re: 1991 Walkaround 25 Specifications

For specifications for a 25 WALKAROUND, see the data listed in the REFERENCE section at http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/specifications.html#hulls24-31 That article gives a comprehensive summary of all classic-era Boston Whaler boat hulls from 9-feet to 31-feet, including their production ...
Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

...the Build a Whaler site no longer provides a package price (boat with options) although option prices are available. The lack of MSRP prices on the Boston Whaler site was a reason I was interested in these two boats. If you don't know the starting price point--the MSRP--to judge a "discount...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: NMEA-0183 Interface Problems; a Real-world Example
Replies: 0
Views: 42

### NMEA-0183 Interface Problems; a Real-world Example

A boater recently posted on a popular marine electronics forum that he was seeking help making an interconnection between two devices that had NMEA-0183 interfaces. Each device provided the NMEA-0183 signals on loose wires that were part of a multi-conductor cable, with various different wire insula...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

If you could buy a 190 MONTAUK for the same price as a 170 MONTAUK, I would expect that sales of 190 MONTAUK boats would increase and sales of 170 MONTAUK boats would decrease.

Can we have an example of a 2019 190 MONTAUK that is selling at \$42,000?
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

... booth was in the lower floor... I guess these days \$42,000 boats are not expensive enough to get on the main floor of a boat show--which tells you something right there. Dave--was there any mention of a "boat show discount" price? It looks like the listed prices are all the MSRP price...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

Re the added charge for a different hull color: While waiting to board a flight to Detroit from Atlanta last week, I happened to strike up a conversation with a fellow passenger, also heading to Detroit, and involved in selling products to automobile manufacturers. His firm was in the automobile pai...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Canvas for 16 NAUSET
Replies: 4
Views: 66

### Re: Canvas for 16 NAUSET

So in your opinion, adding a bimini/top to this boat would hurt its value? No--I did not make that statement. When you add anything to a classic Boston Whaler, just be certain that it is in character with the original design. A Flying Top or Sun Top would be part of the original design. You just ne...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:32 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Canvas for 16 NAUSET
Replies: 4
Views: 66

### Re: Canvas for 16 NAUSET

Your 1973 16 NAUSET must be one of the last ones made. I believe that 1973 was the last year that Boston Whaler produced the NAUSET model. For that reason, you have a somewhat unusual Boston Whaler. I would recommend that you try to preserve the boat in its original form as much as possible. The exp...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Canvas for 16 NAUSET
Replies: 4
Views: 66

### Re: Canvas for 16 NAUSET

The Wm. J Mills & Co. canvas was selected by Boston Whaler as their OEM canvas for their boats in the earliest days of Boston Whaler manufacturing, and Mills canvas continues to have patterns and will make canvas for vintage Boston Whaler boats. I don't believe they keep any canvas in stock, so ...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

Since the dealer had two 170 MONTAUK boats on display, I would suspect he ordered them on speculation, not for a specific customer. The dealer must expect these boats will be sold in the next few months. The prices do seem somewhat more than I would have expected. However, if you figure that a decen...
Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### Re: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

The same dealer had another 2019 170 MONTAUK, with these options and prices: ⋅ Base MSRP \$32,063 ⋅ Factory Options ⋅ Mercury 90 FOURSTROKE CommandThrust \$0 ⋅ Light blue gel coat hull sides \$1,059 ⋅ Aft bench seat \$2,720 ⋅ Aft bench seat cov...
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices
Replies: 36
Views: 614

### 2019 170 MONTAUK Retail Prices

At a boat show (in Fort Wayne, Indiana) an authorized Boston Whaler dealer was showing a 2019 170 MONTAUK for sale as follows; ⋅ Base MSRP \$32,063 ⋅ Factory Options ⋅ Mercury 115 FOURSTROKE CommandThrust \$1,044 ⋅ Classic DESERT TAN gel coat hul sides \$1,059 &s...
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 1985 OUTRAGE 18 Bimini Height
Replies: 7
Views: 146

### Re: 1985 OUTRAGE 18 Bimini Height

Re aluminum tubing: you can usually find 6061T-6 Aluminum tubing with 0.058-Wall at any good aluminum product warehouse. You can also buy it from more boutique sellers. Try DX Engineering https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-aluminum-tubing?autoview=SKU&sortby=Default...
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:49 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: 1985 OUTRAGE 18 Bimini Height
Replies: 7
Views: 146

### Re: 1985 OUTRAGE 18 Bimini Height

Make a cut in the main rear frame. Add more tubing to it. If the frame is aluminum, you should be able to find telescoping sizes of aluminum tubing. Often aluminum tubing is sold in 0.058-wall thickness. With that wall thickness, a change in OD of 0.125-inch will telescope the the next larger or sma...
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Obtaining Boat Title
Replies: 4
Views: 173

### Re: Hull Identification

I have an old Boston Whaler15-foot boat with no [Vehicle Identification Number] on the [hull]. Boats do not have vehicle identification numbers. A boat made after 1972 has a federal hull identification number or HIN. Please read the FAQ to learn more about Boston Whaler boat hull identification num...
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:27 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Trailers
Replies: 11
Views: 457

### Re: Trailers

A few years ago the State of Michigan changed the procedure for trailer registration and license plates. Instead of having annual license tags for trailers, which used to cost about \$15, the State changed to a "lifetime" trailer license plate, and charged \$75. It was a way to collect five ...
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 2000 Dauntless 16 engine mounting height
Replies: 26
Views: 468

### Re: 2000 Dauntless 16 engine mounting height

Less propeller pitch (as you have achieved by changing to 17-pitch from 19-pitch) will give faster acceleration. It will also allow the engine to accelerate into its best power range at lower boat speeds; that will let the boat stay on plane at a lower boat speed in most hulls. More use of the boat ...