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by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
Replies: 7
Views: 280

Re: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat

Here's my dash. One other suggestion. Install at least one USB charger connection. That's one of the two black circles...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
Replies: 7
Views: 280

Re: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat

One process to consider when filling in the old holes (especially if your not going to remake or reuse the two old factory teak switchplates on the console face) is to cut out all of the dash face, to within one inch of the corners. Replace the whole face with 3/4" plywood. Reglass and repaint....
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
Replies: 7
Views: 280

Re: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat

Maybe Figure 3 shows the underside of an aftermarket bench seat.
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Repair Advice
Replies: 10
Views: 701

Re: Advice

Q1: What area of the tank cavity lid are you concerned about?

Q2: The edge where the mounting screws are located?

Q3: The fuel gauge area?

Q4: The area where the fuel hoses (both the fill hose and the hose for the engine) exit the tank cavity?

Regards - Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: c.1985 OUTRAGE 18: Wet Foam in Bow with Distortion of Liner
Replies: 12
Views: 939

Re: c.1985 OUTRAGE 18: Wet Foam in Bow with Distortion of Liner

Based on the location, I'm pretty sure that the water penetration is primarily due to the center mooring bit, with possible further penetration from the bow rail stanchions. I'm not sure how much attention (if any the factory placed on proper bedding of those holes. The best way to prevent [water in...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: The Abel Buell Map of the United States
Replies: 6
Views: 2221

Re: The Abel Buell Map of the United States

What I find intriguing is the small islands at the extreme southern end of Lake Huron.
by Don McIntyre - MI
Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Gauge placement on 1972 Katama console
Replies: 5
Views: 6559

Re: Gauge placement on 1972 Katama console

Unfortunately I've got no photos, so I'll try and explain best I can: We had the same teak console, and wanted a tach, speedometer, water pressure and battery gauge within easy eyesight. In other words, not on the small vertical panels, that you'd have to bend over to see. I mentioned this project t...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat May 04, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1989 Boston Whaler 22 Outrage Restoration
Replies: 12
Views: 5261

Re: 1989 Boston Whaler 22 Outrage Restoration

A concern with using a polyurethane paint like AWLGRIP below the water line is that many of us will beach our boats on a sandy surface. I've beached my renovated 1973 21' Outrage maybe a dozen times--but only for brief periods because I know that the paint applied on the bottom is thinner then gel c...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:49 pm
Forum: GLOBAL NAVIGATION SATELLITE SYSTEMS
Topic: GPS Week Rollover Is Coming in April 2019
Replies: 23
Views: 16724

Re: GPS Week Rollover Is Coming in April 2019

Whew. Want to talk about a cluster-bomb that's brewing? How about a very major thermal imaging company that's supplied mobile imaging systems for years, for world wide customers. It's hit them. Fleets are being affected. And it looks like some systems will be required to be shipped back to the facto...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
Replies: 16
Views: 4876

Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box

While looking at the picture, I was wondering why you didn't run the box up flush to the protrusion, or bump just above the stainless steel eyebolt?
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
Replies: 16
Views: 4876

Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box

And yes, drain holes would probably be a good idea. Be sure to coat the insides of those too.

Regards - Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
Replies: 16
Views: 4876

Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box

If going with wood, teak will be fine. when drilling and coating, also coat the inside of the drilled hole to prevent water intrusion. If your mounting them to the deck, inside of the box(es), you could also use one long and one short strip of Starboard, or some other Starboard like material. Regard...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
Replies: 16
Views: 4876

Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box

Looks pretty good so far. When you hinge the doors, I'd consider placing the hinges on the bottom; easier to open and store or retrieve items. Little chain or stainless cable to prevent them from opening too far. Downside might be you'll have to mount a heavier duty locking mechanism than if you hin...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Keeping Dashboard Panel and Gauges Watertight
Replies: 16
Views: 5033

Re: Keeping Dashboard Panel and Gauges Watertight

One more suggestion in regards to making the panel watertight: old-time forum member John Flook noticed during some repair and modification of his dash that water had seeped into the plywood substrate where the metal panels were attached, either from washing his dash or leaving the console uncovered...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Source for Instrument Panels, Hull Decoration
Replies: 8
Views: 2513

Re: Source for Instrument Panels, Hull Decoration

One other method is to place a thin, pre-drilled and pre-printed plastic panel over a blank metal panel (mostly for strength). Most common color would be white lettering on a black panel. There are two places one could have such a panel created; in the experimental aircraft area, or possibly in your...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: MONTAUK 17 Top
Replies: 8
Views: 2753

Re: Where to find top

You have two choices; buy [a top for a MONTAUK 17] from Mills or have one custom made by a local canvas shop that's close to you. Examining the image, it looks like the pivot point on the hull allows for the canvas to slid forward and fold down just forward of the bow rail assembly. I don't know if ...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair
Replies: 47
Views: 11895

Re: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair

Josh's 9/13 post regarding " send the boat hull back to the repair man " is curious. Is the hull being sent back to the factory where a repair may be accomplished or does the factory subcontract that work out? Time will tell. During my one tour of the Maryland plant, we watched a 17' hull ...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:10 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair
Replies: 47
Views: 11895

Re: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair

I'm with jimh; I can't figure out why that piece of plastic was allowed to remain inside the hull, between the gel coat application and the sealing up of both hulls, prior to the foam injection process. Does not make sense. What I am curious about, is to the total area that the plastic covers. Only ...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:44 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: A Plastic Fuel Tank Miracle
Replies: 2
Views: 1918

Re: A Boston Whaler plastic tank miracle

Interesting! As I mentioned in the prior discussion, Boston Whaler told me that [deformation of the plastic fuel tank was caused from] the hull freezing. Water that had migrated past the foam due to the mold release agent not allowing for the foam to adhere to the tank, pooled in the space between t...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:40 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Safest Form of Payment
Replies: 9
Views: 3812

Re: Safest Form of Payment

Cash, with the transfer taking place at a bank. Some have made the transfers occur at a local police department lobby.

If you go a financial instrument, your bank could assist in confirmation that the check, or certified check is good, but that's not 100% foolproof.

Regards - Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: X-Ray View of Antenna Construction
Replies: 5
Views: 7293

Re: X-Ray View of Antenna Construction

Very interesting.

Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna
Replies: 4
Views: 7712

Re: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna

Jim - How does the performance compare to GAM setup?

And, I note that there's a required connection, instead of the antenna being supplied with a certain amount of cable. How much loss, if any would occur because of the connection?

Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:11 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project
Replies: 7
Views: 3115

Re: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project

In re-reading the earlier threads, I recalled more of the conversation with Bob. He did mention that they discovered that the mold release agent used in the production of the plastic tanks didn't allow for the foam to bond to the tank. Once the water penetrated and washed over the foamed in tank, th...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: Antenna Placement on a 1989 Montauk
Replies: 3
Views: 6473

Re: Antenna Placement on a 1989 Montauk

On the two Montauks we owned, I mounted it on the inside starboard gunnel, in the back of the boat. Ran the coax through the tunnel. The stainless steel bracket was positioned so when folded down, the 8' antenna would lay flat across the horizontal portion of the grab rail stanchions.That way it was...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project
Replies: 7
Views: 3115

Re: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project

The underlying reason the tank deformed was at one point during your boat's life it was exposed to freezing temps. The water under the tank, between the tank and the bottom of the tank cavity froze, and pushed up the tank bottom. This happened to our 22 Outrage of that era. Back then, the factory co...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 21 1973 towing eyes
Replies: 10
Views: 3609

Re: Outrage 21 1973 towing eyes

Mlaibe - Larrys hull is the ribbed model, in the later ones, there was a slight difference in the step. The hull that I renovated had a stainless steel "U" bolt embedded on both sides, above where the circular steering access (it's unused on Larry's) cup is located on the port side. For sk...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:19 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Battery Switch and Battery Cable Size
Replies: 3
Views: 2802

Re: Recommended Battery Cable Size

I would be reluctant to mount a battery switch outside,exposed to the weather..... even if the directions states its waterproof. And that eliminates the need to run two pair of fairly thick cables through a limited diameter tunnel.
Regards - Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:49 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: X-Ray View of Antenna Construction
Replies: 5
Views: 7293

X-Ray View of Antenna Construction

Jim--I don't know if you've covered this before, but here goes:

If one was to do a side by side x-ray or dissection of a fiberglass 3 dB versus, say, a 10 dB antenna, what would look different?

Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:39 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: REVENGE 22 W-T Cabin Cushion Replacement
Replies: 7
Views: 3889

Re: Interior cushion replacement for classic

One recommendation, regardless of where you have them made: the factory set comes with some sort of synthetic on the undersides. We had some made using canvas or a synthetic that breathes--perhaps Sunbrella--then turned them over and covered with a custom fitted sheet. Felt much more comfortable. Re...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: TRIPS and RENDEZVOUS
Topic: Boating in Eastern Canada, St. Lawrence
Replies: 15
Views: 11888

Re: Boating in Eastern Canada, St. Lawrence

Bob --one additional note regarding whale watching: it is against the regs to chase the whales. The [tour boat] captains estimate where the pod will surface, run on plane to that approximate spot, and then shut down. That trick might take a bit of practice. We also went up the river, and hung along ...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:56 pm
Forum: TRIPS and RENDEZVOUS
Topic: Boating in Eastern Canada, St. Lawrence
Replies: 15
Views: 11888

Re: Boating in Eastern Canada, St. Lawrence

Bob--My wife, another couple, and I drove up from our home base in Port Huron, Michigan. I had planned on towing our 21' Outrage. We stayed at Saint-Simeon, about 15 miles south of Tadoussac. I'm glad I was talked out of towing the boat along; the drive is long, more than 13-hours from our home, and...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:46 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: SPORT 13: Bimini Top Frame Anchor Point
Replies: 15
Views: 4932

Re: Bimini top hardware/anchoring

Pete - I've used both procedures you've suggested with good results. When mounting my console, I not only overdrilled, but with a bent nail inserted into a cordless drill, carved out a small cavity in the foam. Blew out the residue and poured in epoxy, neat, level to the top. I'd recommend using a s...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Raising console in Outrage 25
Replies: 8
Views: 3465

Re: Raising console in Outrage 25

Russell--Interesting project. Since you had to totally remove the console, did you ever give any consideration extending the FRP to raise it?
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:03 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Montauk Interior Replacement
Replies: 5
Views: 2604

Re: Montauk Interior Replacement

ASIDE: Mike--where and from whom are you obtaining the console? Regards, Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:09 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: RESCUE 21 Sites in the Great Lakes
Replies: 11
Views: 14040

Re: RESCUE 21 Sites in the Great Lakes

Jim - Regarding your January post on P25 encryption: Avi Rubin is assuming that all the P25 (preps, base, and mobile) radios are encryptable. Many of the Motorola radios that the State of Michigan allows on their statewide network either are not capable of that mode, or the additional encryption opt...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Mon May 15, 2017 1:38 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1990 Yamaha speedometer hose?
Replies: 3
Views: 1844

Re: 1990 Yamaha speedometer hose?

Mike - Very possible. My 1999 Yamaha has a very small hole, on the front portion of the lower unit. It's approximately 1/2 way between the lower unit hub and the anti-cavitation plate. Could also be the indicator outlet that's been misrouted that shows when glancing at the motor, that the water pump...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Yamaha 115 Won't Idle
Replies: 3
Views: 1893

Re: Yamaha 115 Won't Idle

Assuming that the motor is the same era as the hull, what sort of yearly service work do you have done to the motor? While Yamaha's are pretty reliable, they do need service.

Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:27 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Best Tracking Device for 13-footer in the South American Island of Curacao
Replies: 13
Views: 3472

Re: Tracking device

I wouldn't consider glassing in place. Might need to be removed for service or firmware updates, etc. I would consider installing it inside the engine cover, if there's enough room. Another possible location would be in a larger battery box. And the battery box will all but eliminate wiring problems...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:45 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: It Is Now Legal to Use Handheld VHF Radios While Ashore
Replies: 4
Views: 8052

Re: It Is Now Legal to Use Handheld VHF Radios While Ashore

It's nice to see that they've caught up to reality.
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:08 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Boat Cover When On Highway; Engine Supports
Replies: 22
Views: 7912

Re: Boat Cover When On Highway; Engine Supports

I've always covered, removed the drain plugs just in case, reuse the dock lines for trailer hold downs (for the 21'), and use the lo-tech method of outboard support; hunk of 2x4. Regarding not covering over concerns of gel coat wear; after 17 years of trailering the Outrage, I noticed a slight weari...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:22 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Advice to First-time Boat Owner
Replies: 34
Views: 11918

Re: Advice to First-time Boat Owner

a bit of advise passed on to my by my father, a WWII USN Vet:

"Never approach a dock faster than you want to hit it"...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:43 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1976 11 SPORT Hole In Bottom
Replies: 4
Views: 2336

Re: 1976 11 SPORT Hole In Bottom

Recent Honda CRV towing capacity is around 1500lbs ~.
by Don McIntyre - MI
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:35 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Repair of Wet Wood In Transom
Replies: 13
Views: 6204

Re: Repair of Wet Wood In Transom

Wet or rotted wood in the transom occurs when either no, or improper bedding of _any_ penetration occurs in the transom area. This actually can and does occur in the decking area with wood underneath. When our 21' Outrage was renovated, the shop found transom dry rot. Repaired via opening up the ste...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 270 OUTRAGE Twin Engines: Engine RPM at WOT
Replies: 7
Views: 5029

Re: 270 OUTRAGE Twin Engines: Engine RPM at WOT

First thought I had was is a 19" the proper pitch for the motor and boat weight? I'm with Jim regarding the supposed lack of proper trim; yea, it could make a difference, but not that much. If you can, I'd reschedule and try running on only one engine. You may have to get up on plane, back off ...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:02 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Upgrading to OUTRAGE 21 from MONTAUK 17
Replies: 16
Views: 6147

Re: Upgrading to a 21' Ribside

Goldstem mentioned that a 200hp could be scary. I've not encountered that, though when you nail the throttle from idling you'll want to have a plan.

Regards - Don
by Don McIntyre - MI
Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:24 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Upgrading to OUTRAGE 21 from MONTAUK 17
Replies: 16
Views: 6147

Re: Upgrading to a 21' Ribside

A 100-HP on [an OUTRAGE 21] would be pretty sluggish, except for an extremely light load--like one person, little gear, minimal fuel type load. I've had a smooth-sided OUTRAGE 21 for almost 20 years. The first two years of my ownership, it had a 150 Mercury, and would power it into the high 30-MPH t...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:45 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Repair of Wet Wood In Transom
Replies: 13
Views: 6204

Re: Repair of Wet Wood In Transom

Wet wood will eventually rot. We had the transom replaced on our [1973], 21 Outrage, by ripping open the stern, replacing the rotted wood with actually a thicker-than-factory plywood laminate, re-glassing the stern and repainting. Your job would actually be a bit easier, as the 21-footer stern is no...
by Don McIntyre - MI
Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:47 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Purchase Advice Needed: Lake Erie Boat
Replies: 14
Views: 5252

Re: Purchase Advice Needed: Lake Erie Boat

I'd second what Phil stated above..... start looking for a used one, either on this or other forums, and also Craigslist. All are decent places to start. I'm up in the lower end of Lake Huron, and can state that most Whalers in hoists along our shore are the Montauk series. Fewer Dauntless in hoists...