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- Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:00 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1974 Outrage 21 Restoration
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2998
Re: 1974 Outrage 21 Restoration
Looks great so far. Good work. Consider the following, based on what I've encountered with my 21'. 1 - It's pretty difficult, I'd even say impossible to totally eliminate water penetration into the fuel tank cavity. What I ended up doing was drilling a drain hole in the rear, to empty into the aft b...
- Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:54 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Hull Damage Removing Gel Coat Layer
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1461
Re: Hull Damage Removing Gel Coat Layer
And to expand on what Jim mentioned regarding larger that initially thought. Yea, you need to slowly grind the gelcoat back enough to determine if the actual embedded glass fibers are fractured.
- Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:06 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: OUTRAGE 18 Using Through-Hull SONAR Transducer
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1977
Re: Outrage 18 Fuel Tank Replacement and Fuel Tank Cavity Drain to the Sea
I am considering installing a through hull SONAR transducer in my 1986 OUTRAGE 18 in the fuel tank cavity area....Give me comments on this idea. Years ago I had read an article in a boating magazine on how the writer had placed a transducer in a custom made well, and submerged it in an oil. The wri...
- Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:57 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Hidden VIN on E-Z-LOADER Trailer
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4559
Re: Hidden VIN on EZ Loader trailer
For those of us that have worked auto theft cases, a set of small mirrors, sandpaper, can of ether (cleans grease off really well) proved their worth. That hidden number was known to us as the confidential number, aka "CON" number, as opposed to the public or "P" number. Fun days...
- Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:06 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: MONTAUK 17 RPS Placement
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1362
Re: MONTAUK 17 RPS Placement
You might consider being slightly forward or aft of where it was first mounted. Probably aft, for more rather than less room between the seat and console. The original area might contain a bit of dry rot.
Regards - Don
Regards - Don
- Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:00 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Sunbrella Fabric for Upholstered Cushions
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2440
Re: Sunbrella Fabric for Upholstered Cushions
We've used Sunbrella in the cabin. The "trick" is to locate different samples of foam, i.e. different thicknesses and density to determine what works best for you. Also whether it's going inside or stay outside. There was a type of foam marketed that was very porous and would allow water t...
- Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:04 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Battery in Console: On Deck or on Shelf
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3827
Re: Battery in Console: On Deck or on Shelf
Further advantage of placing them on the deck is that you gain some additional storage area. When I raised my console by approx 4", the battery lids (I've installed two, with switch) are approx 1.5" above the deck. One caution; don't just add a splice to your existing cable place it in the...
- Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:24 pm
- Forum: TRIPS and RENDEZVOUS
- Topic: Entry to Canada by Boat in 2021
- Replies: 7
- Views: 9326
Re: Entry to Canada by Boat in 2021
I've not heard of anyone being stopped on the St. Clair River, northbound on the Canadian side in my area.
- Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Adding New Bulkhead for 22-foot Hulls with Narrow Splash Wells
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5982
Re: Adding New Bulkhead for 22-foot Hulls with Narrow Splash Wells
Excellent work and finish work. Only small suggestion I'd have is (probably too late) to consider making the door for the engine clearance spring loaded. No accidental tilting up to far and cracking the great looking door!
Regards - Don
Regards - Don
- Fri May 28, 2021 4:56 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Deck Repair: Six Questions
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5245
Re: Deck Repair: Q9
Q9: in Figure 1, is the squarish section the void in the foam? I cannot distinguish where the wood is, or where it's supposed to be. Bonding new wood to the underside of the removed fiberglass section should be fairly easy. Just weight down the properly sized and resin coated replacement plywood. No...
- Fri May 28, 2021 4:46 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Deck Repair: Six Questions
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5245
Re: Deck repair questions
The tricky part of the repair is going to be beveling of the fiberglass laminate on both sides; the cutout portion and the rest of the hull, at least one inch.
- Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:05 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1970 NAUSET 16: Sealing Fastener Holes in Transom
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4264
Re: 1970 NAUSET 16: Sealing Fastener Holes in Transom
In addition to what Jim posted. For filler, be sure to use a low density filler. Using a high density filler will make the sanding and leveling more time consuming.
Regards - Don
Regards - Don
- Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:01 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1996 MONTAUK 17: Leak at cockpit sump drain
- Replies: 54
- Views: 23709
Re: 1996 MONTAUK 17: Leak at cockpit sump drain
Q19: Is the water coming from inside the drain tube, around the fitting?
Q20: Or from the cracking in the gel coat on the floor of the drain well that's observed in Figure 1?
Q20: Or from the cracking in the gel coat on the floor of the drain well that's observed in Figure 1?
- Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:00 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1996 MONTAUK 17: Leak at cockpit sump drain
- Replies: 54
- Views: 23709
Re: 1996 MONTAUK 17: Leak at cockpit sump drain
I recall a conversation where there was mention of just that, a problem a problem with transom slope. The factory had various flare tools that were custom made according to the angle needed.
- Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:11 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Varnish over Epoxy
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3822
Re: Varnish over Epoxy
Jim - If you wander through their website, and view all their Epoxyworks Magazines of past, you come away with a great amount of knowledge of their epoxy system. They also cover and dispel some old wives tales regarding epoxy. I've been a subscriber to their mag for a number of years. Even met both ...
- Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:08 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Bow Ladder for Revenge
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2228
Re: Bow Ladder for Revenge
In the North Channel area there are three easily accessible beaches: ⋅ On the south side of South Benjamin Island at the end of the large cove, ⋅ by the Clara & Turnbull Island group, and ⋅ at the extreme east end of Bayfield Sound, at the south end of Campbell Bay...
- Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:10 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Varnish over Epoxy
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3822
Re: Varnish over Epoxy
There are a number of articles in the following link from the West Suystems magazine "Epoxyworks" with tips on epoxy and varnish coating:
https://www.epoxyworks.com/index.php/category/coating/
Regards - Don
https://www.epoxyworks.com/index.php/category/coating/
Regards - Don
- Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:18 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1978 Revenge 21 Bow Railing
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2810
Re: 1978 Revenge 21 Bow Railing
To expand on what Jim said, it's potentially even more complex. FWIR, the Revenge and the Outrage bow rail are the same. In that era Outrage, two of the vertical rail supports and the rear of the rail, that bends vertical penetrate _through_ the upper deck area, and attach inside the _lower_ deck ar...
- Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:46 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Reversible Pilot Seat Four-Inch Riser Made of Black KING Starboard
- Replies: 14
- Views: 3951
Re: Reversible Pilot Seat Four-Inch Riser Made of Black KING Starboard
I used a combination of riser material for the console and seat; Starboard for the seat (three one inch sections) and four, one inch sections of oak for the console. The console riser sections were epoxy laminated, then painted to match the console. I had seen Larry's beautiful job, and I didn't wan...
- Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:33 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Outrage 18 Midship Cleat
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4296
Using Pop-up Cleat for Midship Cleat
I'd also recommend the Acconmarine cleats, either the flush mount folding or the spring loaded ones. Reduces the chance of catching a shoe or bare foot on an area of [an OUTRAGE 18] that is prone to have feet on that surface. https://shop.acconmarine.com/products/19-pop-up-cleat.aspx [Moderator's no...
- Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:17 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Construction of casting platform on 1987 Super Sport Ltd
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2035
Re: Construction of casting platform on 1987 Super Sport Ltd
Another way of attaching the wood piece, like Phil suggested is using the West Epoxy system, with one of their additives, 404 for high strength. Instead of the 105 epoxy, consider G/Flex Thickened. It would allow for a bit of flexing (think standing on it's deck), and vibration resistance. The great...
- Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:22 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Thread Locker for Console Screws
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2709
Re: Thread Locker for Console Screws
Another thought: change from a wood screw to a machine screw if there is access inside the console to place a washer, lock washer and nut.
- Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:29 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Red Dot Hull
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3924
Re: Red Dot Hull
I think that hull is fairly rare. I'd bet not many 15-footers were ordered with workboat specs.
- Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:54 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Variation in Engine Temperature at Idle between Twin Engines
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3909
Re: Variation in Engine Temperature at Idle between Twin Engines
Or, switch the thermostats and report back.
- Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:10 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Montauk Teak Bilge Cover Source
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3738
Re: Montauk Teak Bilge Cover
And to minimize the need for another one, coat it with a couple of coats of epoxy (without any additives, just straight), especially along the edges and the lift hole. Then a few coats of varnish. It will last much longer.
Regards - Don
Regards - Don
- Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:50 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3386
Re: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
Here's my dash. One other suggestion. Install at least one USB charger connection. That's one of the two black circles...
- Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:25 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3386
Re: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
One process to consider when filling in the old holes (especially if your not going to remake or reuse the two old factory teak switchplates on the console face) is to cut out all of the dash face, to within one inch of the corners. Replace the whole face with 3/4" plywood. Reglass and repaint....
- Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:17 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3386
Re: 1974 MONTAUK 17 Center Console and Seat
Maybe Figure 3 shows the underside of an aftermarket bench seat.
- Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:25 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Repair Advice
- Replies: 10
- Views: 4212
Re: Advice
Q1: What area of the tank cavity lid are you concerned about?
Q2: The edge where the mounting screws are located?
Q3: The fuel gauge area?
Q4: The area where the fuel hoses (both the fill hose and the hose for the engine) exit the tank cavity?
Regards - Don
Q2: The edge where the mounting screws are located?
Q3: The fuel gauge area?
Q4: The area where the fuel hoses (both the fill hose and the hose for the engine) exit the tank cavity?
Regards - Don
- Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:27 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: c.1985 OUTRAGE 18: Wet Foam in Bow with Distortion of Liner
- Replies: 12
- Views: 4760
Re: c.1985 OUTRAGE 18: Wet Foam in Bow with Distortion of Liner
Based on the location, I'm pretty sure that the water penetration is primarily due to the center mooring bit, with possible further penetration from the bow rail stanchions. I'm not sure how much attention (if any the factory placed on proper bedding of those holes. The best way to prevent [water in...
- Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:47 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: The Abel Buell Map of the United States
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4803
Re: The Abel Buell Map of the United States
What I find intriguing is the small islands at the extreme southern end of Lake Huron.
- Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:46 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Gauge placement on 1972 Katama console
- Replies: 5
- Views: 8795
Re: Gauge placement on 1972 Katama console
Unfortunately I've got no photos, so I'll try and explain best I can: We had the same teak console, and wanted a tach, speedometer, water pressure and battery gauge within easy eyesight. In other words, not on the small vertical panels, that you'd have to bend over to see. I mentioned this project t...
- Sat May 04, 2019 7:29 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1989 Boston Whaler 22 Outrage Restoration
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9990
Re: 1989 Boston Whaler 22 Outrage Restoration
A concern with using a polyurethane paint like AWLGRIP below the water line is that many of us will beach our boats on a sandy surface. I've beached my renovated 1973 21' Outrage maybe a dozen times--but only for brief periods because I know that the paint applied on the bottom is thinner then gel c...
- Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:49 pm
- Forum: GLOBAL NAVIGATION SATELLITE SYSTEMS
- Topic: GPS Week Rollover Is Coming in April 2019
- Replies: 23
- Views: 37719
Re: GPS Week Rollover Is Coming in April 2019
Whew. Want to talk about a cluster-bomb that's brewing? How about a very major thermal imaging company that's supplied mobile imaging systems for years, for world wide customers. It's hit them. Fleets are being affected. And it looks like some systems will be required to be shipped back to the facto...
- Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:56 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10343
Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
While looking at the picture, I was wondering why you didn't run the box up flush to the protrusion, or bump just above the stainless steel eyebolt?
- Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:42 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10343
Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
And yes, drain holes would probably be a good idea. Be sure to coat the insides of those too.
Regards - Don
Regards - Don
- Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:41 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10343
Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
If going with wood, teak will be fine. when drilling and coating, also coat the inside of the drilled hole to prevent water intrusion. If your mounting them to the deck, inside of the box(es), you could also use one long and one short strip of Starboard, or some other Starboard like material. Regard...
- Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:59 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10343
Re: 1978 Outrage V-20 Bow Bench and Storage Box
Looks pretty good so far. When you hinge the doors, I'd consider placing the hinges on the bottom; easier to open and store or retrieve items. Little chain or stainless cable to prevent them from opening too far. Downside might be you'll have to mount a heavier duty locking mechanism than if you hin...
- Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:27 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Keeping Dashboard Panel and Gauges Watertight
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10629
Re: Keeping Dashboard Panel and Gauges Watertight
One more suggestion in regards to making the panel watertight: old-time forum member John Flook noticed during some repair and modification of his dash that water had seeped into the plywood substrate where the metal panels were attached, either from washing his dash or leaving the console uncovered...
- Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:20 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Source for Instrument Panels, Hull Decoration
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5288
Re: Source for Instrument Panels, Hull Decoration
One other method is to place a thin, pre-drilled and pre-printed plastic panel over a blank metal panel (mostly for strength). Most common color would be white lettering on a black panel. There are two places one could have such a panel created; in the experimental aircraft area, or possibly in your...
- Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:07 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: MONTAUK 17 Top
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5878
Re: Where to find top
You have two choices; buy [a top for a MONTAUK 17] from Mills or have one custom made by a local canvas shop that's close to you. Examining the image, it looks like the pivot point on the hull allows for the canvas to slid forward and fold down just forward of the bow rail assembly. I don't know if ...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:30 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair
- Replies: 47
- Views: 36850
Re: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair
Josh's 9/13 post regarding " send the boat hull back to the repair man " is curious. Is the hull being sent back to the factory where a repair may be accomplished or does the factory subcontract that work out? Time will tell. During my one tour of the Maryland plant, we watched a 17' hull ...
- Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:10 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair
- Replies: 47
- Views: 36850
Re: 150 MONTAUK Hull Damage Repair
I'm with jimh; I can't figure out why that piece of plastic was allowed to remain inside the hull, between the gel coat application and the sealing up of both hulls, prior to the foam injection process. Does not make sense. What I am curious about, is to the total area that the plastic covers. Only ...
- Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:44 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: A Plastic Fuel Tank Miracle
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3244
Re: A Boston Whaler plastic tank miracle
Interesting! As I mentioned in the prior discussion, Boston Whaler told me that [deformation of the plastic fuel tank was caused from] the hull freezing. Water that had migrated past the foam due to the mold release agent not allowing for the foam to adhere to the tank, pooled in the space between t...
- Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:40 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Safest Form of Payment
- Replies: 9
- Views: 7315
Re: Safest Form of Payment
Cash, with the transfer taking place at a bank. Some have made the transfers occur at a local police department lobby.
If you go a financial instrument, your bank could assist in confirmation that the check, or certified check is good, but that's not 100% foolproof.
Regards - Don
If you go a financial instrument, your bank could assist in confirmation that the check, or certified check is good, but that's not 100% foolproof.
Regards - Don
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:24 pm
- Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
- Topic: X-Ray View of Antenna Construction
- Replies: 5
- Views: 13461
Re: X-Ray View of Antenna Construction
Very interesting.
Don
Don
- Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:19 pm
- Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
- Topic: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14496
Re: COMROD 8-foot VHF Marine Band Antenna
Jim - How does the performance compare to GAM setup?
And, I note that there's a required connection, instead of the antenna being supplied with a certain amount of cable. How much loss, if any would occur because of the connection?
Don
And, I note that there's a required connection, instead of the antenna being supplied with a certain amount of cable. How much loss, if any would occur because of the connection?
Don
- Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:11 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5869
Re: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project
In re-reading the earlier threads, I recalled more of the conversation with Bob. He did mention that they discovered that the mold release agent used in the production of the plastic tanks didn't allow for the foam to bond to the tank. Once the water penetrated and washed over the foamed in tank, th...
- Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:20 pm
- Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
- Topic: Antenna Placement on a 1989 Montauk
- Replies: 3
- Views: 11892
Re: Antenna Placement on a 1989 Montauk
On the two Montauks we owned, I mounted it on the inside starboard gunwale, in the back of the boat. Ran the coax through the tunnel. The stainless steel bracket was positioned so when folded down, the 8' antenna would lay flat across the horizontal portion of the grab rail stanchions.That way it wa...
- Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:14 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5869
Re: 1979 V22 Deck alteration and Tank removal project
The underlying reason the tank deformed was at one point during your boat's life it was exposed to freezing temps. The water under the tank, between the tank and the bottom of the tank cavity froze, and pushed up the tank bottom. This happened to our 22 Outrage of that era. Back then, the factory co...