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by peteinsf
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:48 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

Thanks Jim...

I did have a question, can I retrofit my 2011 e-tecs with electronic shift/throttle?

Pete
by peteinsf
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

After forever She is launched!!! IMG_0637(2).JPG Initial "day-one" test: [4 blade Cyclone, 19 pitch] 70 Gallons on-board Max Speed 54 WOT @5500 Happy Speed for SF Bay = 26mph @3050 RPM Non-planing cruise 10mpg @ 1600 I have not done exhaustive testing (upwind/downwind, trim settings, etc) ...
by peteinsf
Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Appropriate Transom Weight for Whaler Drive
Replies: 10
Views: 3306

Re: Appropriate Weight for Whaler Drive

Russell, There is a bilge pump in the aft section of the covered area, the boat was berthed and that area would fill with rain water etc. Also all of the forward lockers drain into there with wash downs etc it does get wet. The ocean at the SF entrance can get rough, 4ft seas with 12ft swells are no...
by peteinsf
Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:36 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Raising console in Outrage 25
Replies: 8
Views: 2778

Re: Raising console in Outrage 25

Wow, amazing, lots of fabrication on that project.

What wire gauge did you use to extend the starting batteries?
by peteinsf
Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:16 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Appropriate Transom Weight for Whaler Drive
Replies: 10
Views: 3306

Re: Appropriate Weight for Whaler Drive

View of the steps.
by peteinsf
Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:55 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Appropriate Transom Weight for Whaler Drive
Replies: 10
Views: 3306

Re: Appropriate Weight for Whaler Drive

Looks to be very close to yours, about 5-1/2in from chine to top of bottom paint. That height on hull transom translates to 3in above bottom of the drain tubes in the whaler drive well. Here is where the bow waterline is: With little fuel I kept inside the lighter area (green) is where it more likel...
by peteinsf
Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:10 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Appropriate Transom Weight for Whaler Drive
Replies: 10
Views: 3306

Re: Appropriate Weight for Whaler Drive

Jim, Wow, 80lbs reduction would be significant on the transom but I get more like 858lbs (429*2) not your 830. Still 52lbs in savings. I am also starting with aluminum props so there is another few pounds of less stainless steel. On to "weight and balance", great info Russell, Adding 200 h...
by peteinsf
Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:42 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Appropriate Transom Weight for Whaler Drive
Replies: 10
Views: 3306

Appropriate Transom Weight for Whaler Drive

[For prior discussion of the static water line of boats with a Whaler Drive, see http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/020772.html ] My [OUTRAGE 25] Whaler Drive has always seemed low in the water. The current waterline was painted for two c.1988 Johnson 200-HP 25-inch-shaft engines. My hope is ...
by peteinsf
Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats
Replies: 12
Views: 4056

Re: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats

Eel,

My splash well does not seem large enough to make use of a hatch. What do you keep in there?

Is yours a 25?

Also, thanks Russell.
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:30 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Outrage 25, Twin E-TEC: Minimalist Instrumentation
Replies: 7
Views: 3206

Re: Outrage 25, Twin E-TEC: Minimalist Instrumentation

Things are moving along on the Outrage. Related to this project: are the black aluminum console plates still available from Whaler? The old ones have too many holes.
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:18 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats
Replies: 12
Views: 4056

Re: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats

Russell--how thick was the Coosa Board you installed?
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:25 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin
Replies: 8
Views: 2847

Re: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin

Quart arrived yesterday.
by peteinsf
Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:38 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats
Replies: 12
Views: 4056

Re: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats

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by peteinsf
Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:04 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats
Replies: 12
Views: 4056

Re: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats

[The foam-filled deep splashwell on the 25-foot hull with Whaler Drive] cleaned up easily with a scrub brush and the foam is now that nice yellowish color. My current thinking is to just glass over the well after I confirm the foam is not soaked through. The original starboard cap is scalloped on th...
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 18,22,25 Rub Rail source?
Replies: 0
Views: 1110

Outrage 18,22,25 Rub Rail source?

I am looking to replace the Outrage 25 Rub Rail and wanted to see if anyone has used the Taco products.

Best I can tell it's a white Taco V21-9678 (mounted upside down) and a black V12-4144 insert.

Can anyone confirm that? Was Taco the OEM on mid design Outrage models?
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:15 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin
Replies: 8
Views: 2847

Re: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin

On it's way with a UPS tracking number, thanks again Byron
by peteinsf
Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:04 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: USCG Canada Border Region Frequencies
Replies: 5
Views: 2031

Re: USCG Canada Border Region Frequencies

Agreed this is not the forum for geeky radio topics...

My only comment is that it is helpful to monitor what historically was on Ch21. Much of the Rescue21 traffic is in the clear and sounds exactly like with was on CH21 before. All my whalers have an Astro Spectra on them ($100-$150).
by peteinsf
Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:51 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: USCG Canada Border Region Frequencies
Replies: 5
Views: 2031

Re: USCG Canada Border Region Frequencies

I don't actually know the modulation. It was an addendum on a list of Rescue-21 frequencies listed as "border areas" and not in the standard Rescue-21 channel numbering sequence. My hope was that one of you lake residents could confirm their use and any technical observations. My girlfrien...
by peteinsf
Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:08 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: For Sale - 1985 Outrage 25
Replies: 8
Views: 3539

Re: For Sale - 1985 Outrage 25

Looks great, the door change with the leaning post really modernizes her without any loss of the classic lines.
by peteinsf
Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:53 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats
Replies: 12
Views: 4056

Re: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats

Good points Jim, I too agree that the real problem here is the sealing of the StarBoard cap. If water never got under the cover it would be dry right now. I think the flaw here is that the factory did not seal the cover well. The floor scuppers do drain into this zone the factory should have treated...
by peteinsf
Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:26 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: For Sale - 1985 Outrage 25
Replies: 8
Views: 3539

Re: For Sale - 1985 Outrage 25

Hi Crow,

That is a handsome console and leaning post setup. Not original (90% sure) but very OEM looking. Did you set that up yourself?

My outrage 25 is the stripped down one (option wise) with a Montauk console and basic RPS logs of walking space but not much else.
by peteinsf
Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:54 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats
Replies: 12
Views: 4056

Unused Splash Well on Whaler Drive Boats

From the look of the foam that is under the cover of my unused internal splashwell, I suspect water has been living in there for decades. Well I guess LHG was right. Larry always said to get rid of that stupid cover and dig out the wet foam out. I will use this as a bit of an experiment. I am going ...
by peteinsf
Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:28 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin
Replies: 8
Views: 2847

Re: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin

Ordered, we will know when it ships.
by peteinsf
Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:13 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps
Replies: 6
Views: 2675

Re: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps

The USMC RRC boats always had twin OMC 70hp motors. The Netherlands military version have a single OMC v6 (unk HP). Other than the single motor the only visible difference on the Dutch ones were running lights on the console and an all around light above the tow bar.
by peteinsf
Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:13 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin
Replies: 8
Views: 2847

Re: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin

Great help. Thank you.
by peteinsf
Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:44 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin
Replies: 8
Views: 2847

Desert Tan Gel Coat Resin

Hi all--I am doing some repairs on a Boston Whaler OUTRAGE boat. I need some gel coat resin to finish the job. Spectrum currently wants almost $300-per-gallon--and that is their minimum order. I am just doing some patch work so a gallon would be a waste. Do any of you have some left over gel coat re...
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: E-TEC G1-G2 Comparison at 200-HP
Replies: 8
Views: 5157

Re: E-TEC G1-G2 Comparison at 200-HP

I found this comparison video where the top speed was similar but MPG was way better on the G2...

https://www.tradeboats.com.au/tradeaboat-reviews/engines/1605/video-evinrude-e-tec-200-g1-vs-g2
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps
Replies: 6
Views: 2675

Re: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps

Their Logo
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:25 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps
Replies: 6
Views: 2675

Re: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps

More USMC photos
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:24 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps
Replies: 6
Views: 2675

Raider 18 in Action with Marine Corps

Here are some United States Marine Corps public relations photos of Raider 18 boats in action. I have one of these in storage with a super heavy duty trailer. I am not sure what to do with her--next project!
by peteinsf
Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:50 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: USCG Canada Border Region Frequencies
Replies: 5
Views: 2031

USCG Canada Border Region Frequencies

For you Great Lakes types. I found this item that I assume is a Canadian CG to USCG mutual aid interoperation system: USCG VHF Canadian Border Area Regional Channels Freq↓ Channel↓ Details ↓ 167.1125 AG-101 Toldeo OH, Lake Huron 167.6250 AG-102 Detroit MI, Saginaw River Essexville MI, Western NY, Ma...
by peteinsf
Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:21 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: Camper Deck Conversion 13'
Replies: 3
Views: 2538

Re: Camper Deck Conversion 13'

Temptation 1300?
by peteinsf
Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:58 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

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by peteinsf
Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:57 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

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by peteinsf
Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

Thanks Jim, Here are some other miscellaneous repairs: For some reason CPD liked exposing foam on this rigging job. Maybe a deadline for shipping her to Alaska. In any case two big holes for the fuel lines (using bent copper tubing), they ran in and then back out of the bait well. In addition, lots ...
by peteinsf
Wed May 31, 2017 10:34 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

Hi All, After much delay the tank cover is finally repaired/improved. After days of cutting, sanding and grinding I turned over the thin fiberglass top to the boatyard to finish. They used three sections of a glass/balsa sandwiched laminate and glassed it to the thin original decking. My impressions...
by peteinsf
Sun May 28, 2017 10:21 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Evinrude MWS Cable Length Measurement
Replies: 3
Views: 1725

Re: Evinrude MWS Cable Length Measurement

Hmm, They are available in 20ft and 28ft lengths. 20ft seems a bit short with the whaler drive. My thinking: 4ft from the motor to the enclosed well area. 4th to the tunnel 9ft in the tunnel 4ft to the Montauk style console. It just seems odd to buy a 28ft cable for a 26ft center console boat...
by peteinsf
Fri May 26, 2017 7:59 pm
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: FME Coaxial Cable Connectors
Replies: 4
Views: 8501

Re: FME Coaxial Cable Connectors

Love FME. I have a tackle box fill of all the variations. It started as a mistake, I ordered the wrong Larsen NMO mount 10-15yrs ago that had one on it, snaked it through my pickup and have never looked back.

Smart design, only a tiny bit bigger than the cable--must be German.
by peteinsf
Fri May 26, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: House Battery Storage Capacity
Replies: 1
Views: 1285

House Battery Storage Capacity

My preference is to have two dedicated engine-starting batteries for my twin 200-HP set-up. My experience is that battery life seems to tied to cycles of discharge, and, by eliminating non-engine [loads], the starting batteries will be topped off almost 100% of the time. How small a house battery ca...
by peteinsf
Sun May 14, 2017 1:41 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Outrage 25, Twin E-TEC: Minimalist Instrumentation
Replies: 7
Views: 3206

Re: Outrage 25, Twin E-TEC: Minimalist Instrumentation

Hmm. If I use the single I-Command instrument [then] would I not need the two 2-inch System-Check [annunciators]? I see the I-Command has a buzzer output. That would get me down to just two gauges.
by peteinsf
Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:54 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

Rotten plywood removed from the tank deck cover...
by peteinsf
Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:05 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

Acseatsri,

It's a manufactured bracket good to 300hp.

See http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/021240.html
by peteinsf
Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:31 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Replies: 23
Views: 8800

Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)

New tank arrives...
by peteinsf
Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:55 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Evinrude MWS Cable Length Measurement
Replies: 3
Views: 1725

Re: Evinrude MWS Cable Length Measurement

I don't think I have a custom MWS option. I was going to measure (with a line) the distance from the Outrage console to the Whaler Drive-mounted E-TEC engines and then pick the next longer available cable. I just did not know how Evinrude views the published length of their harnesses.
by peteinsf
Wed Aug 17, 2016 11:16 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Evinrude MWS Cable Length Measurement
Replies: 3
Views: 1725

Evinrude MWS Cable Length Measurement

Are Evinrude or Johnson MWS cable lengths sold as end to end (connector to connector) or just the protected un-striped center section?

I see that they are sold in 15', 20' and 28' lengths. The two I currently have don't have a part number stamped anywhere so I can't measure and validate.
by peteinsf
Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:03 am
Forum: VHF MARINE RADIO
Topic: VHF Marine Band Antenna for Small Boats
Replies: 18
Views: 9593

Re: VHF Marine Band Antenna for Small Boats

I was looking at the GAM SS-2 and was thinking the Shakespeare 4400 or 5241-R would do the same job but simplify the installation since the antenna has the coax exiting the coil base vs the PL259 on the bottom of the GAM SS-2. I do see two drawbacks: 1) you can't repair a damaged coax easily. 2) if ...
by peteinsf
Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:35 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: GM WeatherPack Electrical Connections
Replies: 4
Views: 2284

Re: GM WeatherPack Electrical Connections

Good point, it makes sense to use Deutsch if the e-tec uses them internally. It may be helpful to have extra pins and the right crimp tool around.

Any idea why the e-tec NMEA to EMM connector is not a Deutsch type?

I am assuming all the MWS cable connectors are all Deutsch too.
by peteinsf
Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:26 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Classic 25-foot Hull; Tank Dimensions; 140-gallon
Replies: 2
Views: 1437

Re: Classic 25-foot Hull; Tank Dimensions; 140-gallon

Hi Stephen. Two highly-recommended replacement fuel tank [fabricators] are in Los Angeles and San Diego. I offered to ship [the original fuel tank to] them, but they thought careful measuring would work just as well. Even if I ship [the original fuel tank to] them, the cost in total [of locally fabr...
by peteinsf
Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:46 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Classic 25-foot Hull; Tank Dimensions; 140-gallon
Replies: 2
Views: 1437

Classic 25-foot Hull; Tank Dimensions; 140-gallon

Hi All. I am looking for the dimensions or an official drawing of a 140-gallon fuel tank as used in the classic 25-foot hull in Outrage, Revenge, and Challenger models. The drawing needs enough detail to permit having one built locally. I hope I am not the first guy to try this. I have measured the ...
by peteinsf
Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:28 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Outrage 25, Twin E-TEC: Minimalist Instrumentation
Replies: 7
Views: 3206

Outrage 25, Twin E-TEC: Minimalist Instrumentation

After reading all of Jim's very complete E-TEC and NMEA-2000 reference guides I have settled on this for the small console. 1) Use a custom hybrid cabling setup. 2) Use two (existing) modular cables (MWS) for: --a) two "System Check" 2 inch lamp-fields with horns --b) a standard dual key a...