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by Blackduck
Wed Sep 06, 2023 10:37 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: NAUSET 16 Yamaha 90-HP
Replies: 4
Views: 1864

Re: NAUSET 16 Yamaha 90-HP

dockViewFromHouse.jpg
Fig. 4. The dock seen from shore.
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Dock is located on Winnapaug Pond in Westerly, Rhode Island. The pond is saltwater and tidal. The location is the west end, north shore. I built the dock 15 years ago. It is 100-feet long, as was needed to get some water depth. The photo from my front yard.
by Blackduck
Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:41 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: NAUSET 16 Yamaha 90-HP
Replies: 4
Views: 1864

NAUSET 16 Yamaha 90-HP

[An earlier discussion about this boat focused on engine mounting height and possible changes and benefits.] I did not change the engine mounting height for the Yamaha 90-HP two-stroke-power-cycle engine on my NAUSET 16 boat [as was discussed in the prior thread], and I left the engine as it had bee...
by Blackduck
Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:06 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

My approach to life has never been to say "good enough". I have always tried to do a little better than the guy before me, and at 73, I'd have to say that it has worked out pretty darn well for me. I am probably going to make the motor mounts adjustable, so that I can adjust the engines op...
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:45 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

Putting the jack plate concern aside, I am now unsure as to how Tom and Dave feel about raising the engine 1-1/2-inches on a pre-smirk hull. Is it worth it, or not?
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:23 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

Yes, thanks all for the input on this situation. I think getting away from the blind hole mounting system seems to be a good thing for me to strongly consider. My thoughts are that using some sort of setback mounting plate will solve the problem with the least amount of work. Filling and drilling ne...
by Blackduck
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:14 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

My intent in placing this post was to get some feedback from those who have [performed all the work needed to replace a blind-hole mounting with a lower transom mounting hole in an elevated location from the normal BIA location to overcome the problem os a shallow engine splash well on an older Bost...
by Blackduck
Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:01 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

Phil--I didn't see email because it's broken, but I should have it straightened out by June 16, 2022.

6-1/2-inches between third hole and top of slot.
Add 2-inches
8-1/2-inches.
Why add 2-inches

Dave--good looking installation.
by Blackduck
Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:17 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

The jack plate weighs 19 pounds.

The person drilling the top holes drilled them 1/4" different. If he didn't use a jig, easy to do. Motor does seat tight to top of transom on both side, so may have been intentional.
by Blackduck
Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:55 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

The top bolts are at 1 7/8-inch, and 2-1/8-inch other side. The lowest I can drill from there is only 6-1/-inches before getting into the flare of the [engine splash] well bottom. I am buying an inexpensive manual jack plate: , a KUAFU 4'' Set Back Jack Plate, $165. Sure it's made in China--or worst...
by Blackduck
Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:23 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

Okay, let me confirm the height of the upper holes to be sure they are at 1-7/8-inch [on center below the top of the transom]
by Blackduck
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:06 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Re: Raising Engine Height

Yes, I am at the lowest mounting holes which puts the keel bottom and cavitation plate dead level.
by Blackduck
Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Raising Engine Height
Replies: 22
Views: 5490

Raising Engine Height

On my older 16-footer with non-smirk hull, I have a Yamaha 90-HP two-stroke-power-cycle engine mounted using the blind mounting bosses for the lower mounting bolts--a very neat and well-done installation. If I fill these existing lower engine mounting holes, and drill new lower engine mounting holes...
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:56 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Keel Roller and Mounting Hardware
Replies: 9
Views: 1160

Re: Keel Roller and Mounting Hardware

Thanks to you both, I think I can get this done. Like Phil says, one just needs a bigger stash of cash these days.
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:31 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Keel Roller and Mounting Hardware
Replies: 9
Views: 1160

Re: Keel Roller and Mounting Hardware

Phil, specifically, I'm trying to duplicate the double rollers that you have on your 17 OUTRAGE boat trailer pictured in a thread about six months ago. https://continuouswave.com/forum/download/file.php?id=7468 Fig. 1. A LOAD-RITE trailer shown as purchased in another thread and owned by PHIL T. Not...
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:18 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Keel Roller and Mounting Hardware
Replies: 9
Views: 1160

Keel Roller and Mounting Hardware

[Separated from another discussion and now its own thread]

Where can keel rollers and their mounting hardware be puchased?
by Blackduck
Mon May 23, 2022 11:46 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: WTB: Classic-era Montauk 17 in Rhode Island
Replies: 4
Views: 2091

Re: WTB: Classic-era Montauk 17 in Rhode Island

Thanks, Phil. So, I did okay? I used to think I knew prices fairly well, but things sure are different today.
by Blackduck
Mon May 23, 2022 10:11 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: WTB: Classic-era Montauk 17 in Rhode Island
Replies: 4
Views: 2091

Re: WTB: Classic-era Montauk 17 in Rhode Island

No longer looking. I found a 1973 Nauset in very nice condition, with a 2003 Yamaha 90, 174 hours, showroom condition, new trailer for $12,000- It took a couple of months of daily looking, but there are some fairly priced boats out there, but man, you have to be patient.
by Blackduck
Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:45 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: APPRAISAL: 1993 OUTRAGE 17
Replies: 8
Views: 2832

Re: APPRAISAL: 1993 OUTRAGE 17

[Presumably referring to the asking price of $12,000, it] seems like a good price in today's market. I've looked a a number of similar boats over the last month, and the [$12,000] price seems fair.
by Blackduck
Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:37 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: WTB: Classic-era Montauk 17 in Rhode Island
Replies: 4
Views: 2091

WTB: Classic-era Montauk 17 in Rhode Island

WTB: classic-era Montauk 17 any condition. I Won't pay silly prices, like $15,000, original power, never been loved-I will consider $20,000, new power, overall excellent condition.
CONTACT: cedrictheclam@gmail.com
LOCATION: Westerly, Rhode Island
by Blackduck
Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:59 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: SOLD: 1973 Outrage 19 $20,000 in Rhode Island
Replies: 1
Views: 1923

Re: SOLD: 1973 Outrage 19 $20,000 in Rhode Island

Boat has been sold more or less at the asking price.
by Blackduck
Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:19 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: SOLD: 1973 Outrage 19 $20,000 in Rhode Island
Replies: 1
Views: 1923

SOLD: 1973 Outrage 19 $20,000 in Rhode Island

For sale: 1973 19 Outrage in Westerly, Rhode Island for $20,000. Selling because I would like a somewhat smaller boat CONTACT: cedrictheclam@gmail.com I have a lot more photos, just email me- helm.jpg topdn.jpg 19dock1.jpg This is hull #78, a classic banana style. The boat has undergone a complete a...
by Blackduck
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:54 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140
Replies: 28
Views: 12778

Re: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140

For the record, the engine I own has 65 hours of service, and functions as one would think a brand new engine would.
by Blackduck
Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:37 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140
Replies: 28
Views: 12778

Re: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140

In order to obtain the rated maximum power output from any marine engine, the propeller must be chosen so that the propeller load permits the engine to accelerate into its maximum power output range. In the case of many (perhaps most or even all) four-stroke-power-cycle outboard engines, that means...
by Blackduck
Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:07 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140
Replies: 28
Views: 12778

Re: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140

Call it bashing, call me what ever you want, the df140 is still a pig.
by Blackduck
Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:23 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140
Replies: 28
Views: 12778

Re: Suzuki DF 150 on a 190 Outrage

Here is a professional [Moderator's comment: a manufacturer's promotional flyer] performance test of a boat [similar to the boat now owned] in 1973. My point is that the Suzuki DF140 does have a "dock rap" of being an under performer. I can get to 40 MPH under ideal conditions, 39 is a rel...
by Blackduck
Tue Sep 07, 2021 4:19 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140
Replies: 28
Views: 12778

Dock Talk on Suzuki DF140

Any time the Suzuki DF140 comes up, I feel the need to comment. This is a wonderful engine, however it is not a 140-HP engine. It is no more than a 125-HP. It compares very closely in power output to an old Mercury 115 tower-of-power six-cylinder from the 1970's, a bit stronger, but not much.
by Blackduck
Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:52 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 2017 210 MONTAUK Leaking Caulk Seams
Replies: 4
Views: 3888

Re: 2017 210 MONTAUK Leaking Caulk Seams

There is no mold-proof caulk.
by Blackduck
Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:05 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: 1986 Outrage 18 Johnson 150
Replies: 13
Views: 9888

Re: 1986 Outrage 18 Johnson 150

The best prop for your boat was a Stiletto 14 1/4 X 17 stainless, engine mounted three-holes-up. The company is gone.
by Blackduck
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:55 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Re: Outrage 18 Top Speed

The Outrage 18 is quite capable of making 49-MPH. I do not say that every 18 will do this, or that a boat making 47-MPH should be rejected for purchase. If an Outrage makes only 43-MPH it is underperforming by 10-percent. To say a Boston Whaler Outrage 18 should make a lot more speed than 43 MPH is ...
by Blackduck
Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:53 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Re: Outrage 18 Top Speed

My point is the [OUTRAGE 18] boat [with 150-HP engine] is close to a 50-MPH boat, not a 40-MPH boat: just like a Montauk with a 90-HP engine is close to a 45-MPH boat, not a 37-MPH boat. As far as how accurate is GPS, most commercial GPS receivers are stated to be capable of an accuracy of 0.1-MPH o...
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Re: Outrage 18 Top Speed

Hull design, total boat weight, engine RPM , and propeller pitch and diameter predict the real top end boat speed, not the engine's power.

Whatever makes the designated propeller turn at the required speed will work.
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:35 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Re: Outrage 18 Top Speed

Phil, what is the prize?
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:38 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Re: Outrage 18 Top Speed

These old two stroke 150's did produce more than their rated HP-
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Re: Outrage 18 Top Speed

If I said I believe that 50-MPH without bottom paint was possible, you would really think I was nuts.

My boat did weigh [1,975-lbs] without fuel or operator, so the [Crouch Speed Prediction Method] says that is possible.
by Blackduck
Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:43 am
Forum: PERFORMANCE
Topic: Outrage 18 Top Speed
Replies: 23
Views: 11518

Outrage 18 Top Speed

There always seems to be interest in the top speed of a Boston Whaler classic OUTRAGE 18 powered with a 150-HP two-stroke-power-cycle engine. I have been around a few OUTRAGE 18 boats , and I owned one that I regret selling to this day. Without a doubt the [the OUTRAGE 18] boat will make 49 MPH when...
by Blackduck
Thu May 27, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: APPRAISAL 1973 19 OUTRAGE
Replies: 3
Views: 4844

Re: APPRAISAL 1973 19 OUTRAGE

I will be deciding what do do with this boat [by about June 5, 2021].

[Please start a new thread in MARKETPLACE to advertise the boat is for sale if your decision is to sell the boat. This thread is now closed.--Moderator]
by Blackduck
Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:11 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: APPRAISAL 1973 19 OUTRAGE
Replies: 3
Views: 4844

APPRAISAL 1973 19 OUTRAGE

What is the value of my restored 1973 19 [OUTRAGE]? Just about everything that is attached or screwed down is new. The engine is a 2005 Suzuki DF140 with 65 hours of service. Tank is new, all wood is new, wiring is all new, plus lots more. These photos give a good idea of what I have: helm.jpg topdn...
by Blackduck
Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Barrier Coat and Anti-Fouling Paint for Splash Well: Outrage 22 WD
Replies: 8
Views: 6794

Re: Raising Static Trim in Stern

If the batteries [in the OUTRAGE 22 Whaler Drive boat under discussion] are in the stern, moving them to the console will [increase freeboard in the stern]. Adding ballast to the bow will to the same. [Some unidentified described on as] boat has always been low in the stern. ASIDE ON A NEW AND UNREL...
by Blackduck
Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Gel Coat Repair
Replies: 8
Views: 5992

Re: Gel Coat Repair

[Spectrum] will not match your hull color, straight out of the jar. [Spectrum] will have to be adjusted by tinting. {The original article used the undefined pronoun "it", which I assume referred to "Spectrum." If "it" referred to something else, the author should edit h...
by Blackduck
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: FS: 1966 Nauset in Rhode Island
Replies: 5
Views: 4773

Re: FS: 1966 Nauset in Rhode Island

I would be interested in pictures, I'm in RI, so it could be easy-cedrictheclam@gmail.com
by Blackduck
Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 7896

Re: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

I installed an aluminum 40 gallon tank without foam into a 1973 19'. This works well in this boat as water does not pass over the top of the tank like it does on newer Outages. I left a 1" plugged, access hole in the cover for checking and water removal by pump. Tank was just block shimmed in a...
by Blackduck
Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Re-core rotten deck cover
Replies: 8
Views: 5626

Re: Re-core rotten deck cover

I have done the job. I think $4500 is a fair price to do it right. If someone offered me that money to do the job, I would turn them away-
by Blackduck
Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:08 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacement fuel tank: 1976 Outrage 19
Replies: 7
Views: 5091

Re: Replacement fuel tank: 1976 Outrage 19

There are no plastic tanks that will fit into your tank cavity available. You will have to have a new aluminum one made, either Florida Marine or a maker in NJ, can't remember their name-
by Blackduck
Fri May 18, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Montauk Console Mounting
Replies: 1
Views: 2171

Re: Montauk Console Mounting

Screws should be #14, 1/4". 1" should be fine, but you can go up to 1 1/4".
by Blackduck
Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Repair OUTRAGE 18 Hull Damage; a Casualty of Hurricane Harvey
Replies: 4
Views: 4263

Re: Repair OUTRAGE 18 Hull Damage; a Casualty of Hurricane Harvey

The only hard part of this repair is the color matching. It takes knowing color theory. You might be better to pay someone with these skills to do the gel coat. If you try it yourself, make sure you are happy with the color match before you proceed.
by Blackduck
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:57 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Sapele and Mahogany Lumber Source, Uses
Replies: 9
Views: 7590

Re: Sapele and Mahogany Lumber Source, Uses

Seats 1-inch and less for the rest; some might be 7/8-inch.
by Blackduck
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Sapele and Mahogany Lumber Source, Uses
Replies: 9
Views: 7590

Re: Sapele and Mahogany Lumber Source, Uses

Sapele is heavier
by Blackduck
Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: More Than Bottom Paint Needed
Replies: 10
Views: 6460

Re: More Than Bottom Paint Needed

Your boat suffers from severe blistering. The blisters have opened, and much of the original gelcoat is damaged, or just plain gone. The best approach would be to soda blast the bottom, fill all the holes, etc. with thickened epoxy, and then apply a 5 or six coats of epoxy. You are going to need man...
by Blackduck
Sun May 28, 2017 10:59 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: 1974 Outrage 19 likely for sale
Replies: 11
Views: 9150

Re: 1974 Outrage 19 likely for sale

Your boat has great potential. I am trying to complete the same boat, in about the same condition. I bought mine for $6500, with a Suzuki DF140 with 40 hours, and a new fuel tank. So, these boats just don't bring much money, and to restore them takes a ton of time and money. I think $4000 is a good ...
by Blackduck
Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Recommend Fuel Tank Tester; Finding Source of Water in Fuel
Replies: 41
Views: 30899

Re: Recommend Fuel Tank Tester; Finding Source of Water in Fuel

The tank in your boat is almost thirty years old. ALL of the Outrage tank cavities of the 70's and 80's leak to some degree, due to poor design, and even with the best of care, leak rain water. Getting the tank pressure tested will most likely confirm that it is leaking. You can do it yourself, just...