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Phil T

[The Norman pin on a 1988 SUPER SPORT 15] was bronze.

Phil T

Mav—the boat you are referring to is the Whaler 25. It was offered from 1990-1993. It is a really different hull than the Outrage 25 ot Revenge 25. Here are photos from the catalog I stitched together. Whaler_25_SportFisher.jpg Whaler_25_interior.jpg Whaler_25_overall.jpg whaler25.jpg

Phil T

Without knowing the condition of the motor, my appraisal would be $3,000 to $5,000, depending on location.

Phil T

A 190 is not a good comp or helpful for the seller in this conversation.

Larimore - Post or send me more photos and I will give you a more accurate estimate.

Without those we are just chewin' cud.

Phil T

http://www.themarineconnection.net/Gauges.html has thousands of [OEM surplus] gauge panels from Boston Whaler.

Give them a call.

Phil T

WIth the limited photos, I would value the boat significantly less than Jim. The engine, while serviceable and usable to some, is worth nothing to buyers as they will want to repower ($25K +). I think $18-20K as is. A bit more if the buyer from California or the gelcoat has a mirror finish and/or th...

Phil T

Dave -- I know all of that and am not offended. I used to provide an explanation of the prop list origins and my 15 years of experience advising Boston Whaler owners with technical advice but it gets repetitive and tiresome. I gave you specific make, model and size props that came from actual Boston...

Phil T

To give a decent appraisal, we need better photos.

Phil T

Here is the link to the full thread: https://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/011740.html To avoid the rail, the motor must be able to deploy and clear the rail. In many cases, the owner installed a slide for the motor to sit on. To deploy, the motor and arm slide forward and lock into a position ...

Phil T

Here is your answer from a Whaler expert and prop guru: ...Mercury MIRAGE (or a MIRAGEplus for that matter) is 15-1/4" x 19" and is known as a fast, low slip propeller that can handle a lot of power. It might be a little bit too much prop for an 18' Ventura with a 135 but I think it will b...

Phil T

The diameter of the propeller is dictated by the gear ratio of the lower unit.

A propeller of 15.5-inch diameter is EDIT - (NOT) too large for [the Mercury OptiMax 135-HP] engine.

Phil T

I have written on how to hinge the rail. Using the search feature will find many of my posts including this one:

https://continuouswave.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7985&p=46073#p46073

Phil T

If you are concerned about stern weight, do a test. Figure the added weight of a Suzuki DF70 from what you have now and add that weight to the splashwell. You can use bags of sand, water etc. Run the boat, observe the changes in the hull behavior—planing, coming off plane, backing down into waves—an...

Phil T

Mike -

You both have done a great job.

Hope you get on the water soon.

Phil T

My technical service fee is in the post.

Phil T

The Yamaha F70 has the best power-to-weight ratio in [the 70-HP] class. You will be saving 50-lbs right off the bat. The key to good performance on the Dauntless is [the engine mounting height]. [Mount the engine at] two-holes-up or three-hole-up; use a quality stainless steel propeller. I would sta...

Phil T

No point in us sharing information when you dismiss actual Whaler owners testing and decades of experience with the same model of boat and engine.

Phil T

Is the battery already in the console? If it is in the stern, highly recommend moving to the console. The shifting of weight forward will really help lessen stern weight. It can be a bit pricey for what it is (marine battery wire is expensive) but it is a good investment. I liked moving my battery f...

Phil T

Sorry for the date typo on my part. In section 5-10 of your owners manual is the reinforcement diagram. It shows item E, a 7" x 13" piece of phenolic on the port side corner of the transom as well as item A3, a 1-1/2" plywood area measuring 20" x 42". Here is a link to the O...

Phil T

Michael - F150 for sure. Make sure engine is mounted so the top bolt is in the 3rd hole counting down from the top. As for props here are a few suggestions. All stainless, no aluminum. Yamaha Performance 14.25" X 18 Reliance 14 1/4 x 17 Mercury Enertia 14x18 For pulling skiers you will want a 4...

Phil T

Michael--the [Yamaha F150 engine] will not be a problem for the hull. Depending on how you use your boat, the number of persons aboard, the weight of gear, the Yamaha F130 would work, too. If you go far from the coasts, carry a large load and need the power in a pinch, stay with the 150-HP engine. T...

Phil T

You will not find one.

It is for this reason owners fabricate an "extention cord".

Phil T

Owners have installed a trolling motor on a boat that does not have a [factory installed pre-wired electrical receptacle at the bow to provide power]. To do this without major modifications, batteries are installed in the center console. The center console floor is cut and the batteries sit on the d...

Phil T

That is a horrible estimate. Knuckleheads.

It is $400-$600 in materials to rig up an extension cord and an outlet on the console and add a hinged section to the rail.

I have specifics if you want.

Phil T

The Karavan trailer that comes standard with the small Whaler models is the economy model. They don't hold up very well.

I would prefer to look at Rocket or Load Rite brands.

Phil T

If you scroll down to the swim mounting diagram here - https://www.nausetmarine.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/nausetmarine.com/2021/09/2003-2008-150-SPORT.pdf - you will see where to mount the platform. Note the bottom screws are lags. As for Ray's platform, consult with him. I recall that his design al...

Phil T

Dave -

I don't completely disagree with your comments as I too had similar experiences.

Somewhere the world got confused on the word self bailing and self draining

Many owners new to Whalers expect the boat to be totally dry when you pull the plug.

Phil T

Without seeing photos, pricing will be very general. [A 2001 VENTURA 16] without an engine or with an older engine that may not run well [may sell for] $6,000 to $7,000 The costs to buy and install a new engine: ⋅ a new 90-HP engine will cost $11,000 to $13,000 installed; ⋅ a new...

Phil T

look at the feasibility of hinging the console so you don't need to sacrifice the windscreen/rail.

How much clearance is there at high water?

If it really is tight, the 15' Sport or 17 Standard or Super Sport is going to be your only option.

Phil T

Expect to pay $3,000 to $5,000 for a boat yard to replace the fuel tank.

If it ain't broke, why fix it?

Phil T

The Robertson fastener is commonly referred to as the square bit screw by the trade guys in the States.

Their use is very common in residential construction.

Phil T

John and the crew at York Harbor Marine are great. They hosted a group of us during one of my gatherings back in the day. In addition to lunch and Whaler swag, they allowed sea trials of several models, including the just introduced Montauk 150. As you noted, the sea state outside the harbor can be ...

Phil T

The Ventura 210 is heavy and solid with an empty weight of 3300 lbs. This is 1,000 lbs over the Dauntless 20. A Ventura 210 owner, BlueWaterPirate, posted dozens of threads detailing his 4,000 hrs of use off the coast of the Carolina's. It was reading these over the years and a day spent on one off ...

Phil T

The Ventura 20 was originally the Dauntless 20.

The Ventura 210 is a different model completely. It is a beast and a tank.

If I had my choice, Ventura 210 hands down.

Phil T

[The black tar-like goop is] uncured resin.

Test [the fuel tank to a maximum pressure of] 2-PSI.

ASIDE: I hope you got by okay with that storm. I talked to Chris Leblanc (TBS,The Boat Shop) south of Halifax and it was rippen' there.

Phil T

The recommended approach is to fill the old holes and drill new holes for the rivets, not to reuse the same holes.

Phil T

I would not use that as it is exacerbating the possibility of striking the ground at a curb cut or grade change.

A 2x4 block of wood between the bracket and the outboard has worked for me for 20 years.

Phil T

I have never heard of this type of frequent failure of a new Rule pump.

The pump is not being installed properly.

The wiring must be done properly and the splicing must include watertight connections such as heat shrink butt connectors.

See the instructions with the pump.

Phil T

http://www.e-components.net has the OEM fuel tank sender and [visual dial-pointer tank level gauges].

Phil T

I am not a fan of the large loops for the cables.

Phil T

Butch - Forgot you need a side mount. Consider: Yamaha 703...... https://www.simyamaha.com/premium-side-mount-control-703-48207-24-00/ Teleflex CH 1700 ... https://www.wholesalemarine.com/teleflex-ch1700-series-side-mount-control/?msclkid=fefe431e8acf1fbf50eb2612312117c6

Phil T

I have always wanted a classic Morse control with the red ball--the authentic one, not the cheaper imitations.

They shift so smoothly and neutral is really there--no vagueness.

Teleflex Xtreme cables get high praise from owners of Boston Whaler boats.

Phil T

I advise all Whaler owners to avoid at all costs cutting another drain or hole in the hull, especially below the waterline.

A bucket works.

Phil T

You loose a fair amount of speed due to the inefficiency of the jet. You may need a 50hp or more to get the same speed as a 40hp.

Phil T

...to understand how much moisture [the hull] could possibly have--if any. Why do you think you have any moisture, or enough to concern yourself to entertain scales and weighing the boat? Where is the static water line on the exterior transom when the boat is at rest in relation to the splashwell? ...

Phil T

Go use your fabulous boat and stop wasting our time.

Phil T

We don't even know what propeller you have now. Q17: Have you tried any of the recommended props I listed? You mention trying a four-bladed propeller without the model name or size, so we have no way to evaluate it as to it being a good propeller for that boat-engine combination. You need to underst...

Phil T

Your deduction of a water problem is based on faulty assumptions. Many Outrage 18's have a sheet of foam sitting on the top of the tank from the factory. Moisture in the cavity sits on top of the sheet and clouds the inspection cover/fuel gauge clear cover. Many owners, during their inspection of th...

Phil T

Let's turn this around 180 degrees.

Where is the waterline on your boat? Add some photos.

Why is this a concern?

Phil T

After reading your post and a good night sleep, I think you should upgrade the propeller to the Yamaha painted stainless steel model in 13 x 17. It will not need to be replaced if you hit a buoy or debris. The boat will perform better at all speeds. Just be happy you don't need an Enertia propeller ...

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