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by Spc337
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Bonding Circuit
Replies: 7
Views: 10019

Re: Bonding Circuit

Mine definitely is not routed like that. It is attached to what I’m describing as a bolt in the splash well and on the exterior all I can see is the head of a bolt that has been painted.

Do you have a photo of yours so I can see how this should be installed?
by Spc337
Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:25 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Through-hull Fitting Repairs c.2004 190 NANTUCKET
Replies: 46
Views: 28992

Re: Through-hull Fitting Repairs c.2004 NANTUCKET

What was the product name for the no-rot board? I may have to do some deck repair on an older Outrage. Most of the Marine Ply is in good shape and I had intended to add Epoxy around the edges to ensure it is well sealed but found one area that felt like more attention may be needed. Luckily, it sits...
by Spc337
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Bonding Circuit
Replies: 7
Views: 10019

Bonding Circuit

[Thread moved to SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL for discussion.] In my Outrage 22, the bonding circuit connects to a bolt in the stern splash well. On the outboard side of the hull the head of the bolt was painted over when the bottom was epoxy coated. I'm guessing that is bad and probably the reason my meta...
by Spc337
Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 8004

Re: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

I really wanted a poly tank for my Outrage 22. To get a custom tank made, the initial $3,000 to $10,000 cost of the mold has to be absorbed.

A few weeks back I inquired in a posting if there was any interest but didn't get a response.
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 8004

Re: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

Looks nice. Even has a pump installed from what I can see. Any idea who makes that tank? I doubt it fits my cavity but anything is worth a try to avoid aluminum again.
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Installation without Foam
Replies: 12
Views: 8004

Fuel Tank Installation without Foam

Has anyone [installed a fuel tank without foam to surround the fuel tank]? [Are there any] photos of how the work was completed? I'm back and forth on foam and partial foam--that is, foam in the corners for stability. Also on adding a drain. And also on figuring out how to install in a cradle of som...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Advice on making repairs to cracks, chips, and small holes
Replies: 1
Views: 2117

Advice on making repairs to cracks, chips, and small holes

[Separated from a thread on another topic and moved here.--jimh] I'm at the early stages of a tank replacement project. I'm sure I will need to do some gel coat repair. I'm new to working with gel coat resin and epoxy resin. I am looking forward to learning how to properly apply them. The repairs wi...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 22 Console
Replies: 3
Views: 3304

Outrage 22 Console

I just lifted the super console [on a Boston Whaler Outrage 22] and noticed what I believe to be indications that this boat had a different console at some point. Any clues? More curiosity than anything else. I will want to fill the old openings to eliminate the obvious water intrusion opportunities...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 4534

Re: Fuel Tank Replacement / Re-rigging Project...

Here is the cavity with the fuel tank mostly out. I now need to figure out how to remove the remaining foam and clean everything. Any recommendations?
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 4534

Re: Fuel Tank Replacement / Re-rigging Project...

Here is a picture of the Bonding wire.. It ran from the Ground Bus Bar to the tank. From this point, individual wires ran to the Pickup and Fuel Filler (not the vent - not sure if that matters) and a wire running out to the stern. I need to check where that wire goes. Is this the proper way to bond ...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 6
Views: 4534

Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project

Fuel Tank Replacement Project continues. I was finally able to remove the rigging from the console and remove it from the deck. I slid it to the bow and removed the guts so I can sit in the forward well with easy access to rewire. With the Deck lifted, I finally had easy access to the tank. The tank...
by Spc337
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project
Replies: 4
Views: 3930

Fuel Tank Replacement and Re-rigging Project

Fuel Tank Replacement Project continues. I was finally able to remove the rigging from the console and remove it from the deck. I slid it to the bow and removed the guts so I can sit in the forward well with easy access to rewire. With the Deck lifted, I finally had easy access to the tank. The tank...
by Spc337
Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:47 pm
Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
Topic: Dual-circuit Battery Switches
Replies: 6
Views: 10846

Re: Automatic Comber Relay Packaged with Battery Switch

To move to dual batteries, I'm planning to use a [Blue Sea Systems] "Add a Battery Kit" product. The "Add a Battery Kit" packaging has a battery switch and an automatic combiner relay.

https://www.bluesea.com/products/765000 ... 5BBoxed%5D
by Spc337
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:49 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

My boat already had the tank replaced 10 years ago with a new aluminum FMT tank. I’m assuming it replaced an original FMT but who knows. Moeller is pretty difficult to deal with and they will not modify the fittings which seems like a restrictive manufacturing process and lost opportunity. I haven’t...
by Spc337
Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Floating Mine pops up in Puget Sound.
Replies: 2
Views: 2783

Re: Floating Mine pops up in Puget Sound.

It was detonated less than a mile from my house. Despite claims it was inert, the explosives used shook my house. We had no warning so I thought either a large tree just fell or a propane tank blew. Eventually the local news and island Facebook page started to light up with what had happened. The mi...
by Spc337
Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

Here is the 69-gallon tank I was referring too.. Assuming the fittings cannot be modified, the filler is pointed the wrong direction to install towards the bow. I guess I could install it with the filler towards the stern will a longer fill hose. The port rigging tunnel would then have a real purpos...
by Spc337
Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank
Replies: 4
Views: 3756

Re: Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank

I wouldn't install a pump in the cavity itself since these will need to be serviceable.. I would simply secure a hose to the stern end of the cavity and locate the pump either near the console or as Jim suggested use a selector to leverage an existing pump to handle both locations. There is always a...
by Spc337
Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Interpreting Fuel Hose Rating Designators; Gray Fuel Hose
Replies: 4
Views: 5506

Re: Interpreting Fuel Hose Rating Designators; Gray Fuel Hose

All of my hoses are Trident. A1-15 from tank to engine (it does travel under the deck for a few feet) replacing some B1 Gray hose from prior owner. A2 1.5" Filler Hose (Couldn't find A1 rated). This is a beast of a hose and just makes the 90deg turn within the space allowed. A1 - Vent Hose. In ...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I should also mention that I did find a 69gallon tank that might fit. I would sacrifice 8 gallons to get a plastic tank for $600. I'm investigating if the fittings can be relocated without a tooling cost. Aside from the molded filler, I think they can put the fittings where needed after they make th...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

That is my question as well. I didn't ask it yet but wanted to gauge interest first. My guess, if I were Moeller, they would "own" the mold. What I'm hoping to be able to demonstrate is some additional demand for this tank and then figure out if Moeller would share in the costs so the init...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I spoke with Moeller Tanks today. Tooling for a custom tank would run $3,000 to $10,000, Obviously as an individual buyer that is [not a feasible cost to undertake]. However, if there is enough interest from the community, we can figure out a more economical plan leveraging volume purchases. Of cour...
by Spc337
Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank
Replies: 4
Views: 3756

Replacing Outrage 22 fuel tank

Sadly, I’ve confirm my recently purchased OUTRAGE 22 has a bad fuel tank despite being replace in 2007 with a Florida Marine Tanks (FMT) OEM tank. 1a.jpg 2a.jpg Now I need to find a replacement tank. FMT quoted $1,300 plus $300 in shipping, and extra for epoxy coating--seems rather expensive. Resear...
by Spc337
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

[I am surprised] [MOELLER] does’t have the Tempo mold. Anyway, [a new mold] would have to be custom [made]. [I am] trying to figure out what [MOELLER] would charge to make [a new plastic fuel tank from a custom made mold]. [I replaced text for "they" and "it' above as best I could wit...
by Spc337
Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:25 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I’m trying to reach [TEMPO or MOELLER]. I’ll tell [TEMPO or MOELLER] there is a potential for at least two tanks and probably others. Maybe we [can] get the cost down on the mold by finding a few participants.

Sean
by Spc337
Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

If I end up finding a plastic tank, I would think that foam is an ok option since the plastic won't degrade from the exposure like a metal tank does. Or would you still opt to have a drain or some method to remove water? Do you have a tag on your tank? I wonder if I can still get a quote from that m...
by Spc337
Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:58 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I’m probably more concerned about pulling the rigging and rewiring. At least I can clean up the mess there now and perhaps move the batteries to the console too. I keep reading that foaming in the tank, while originally done that way, is perhaps not the best. Installing it on a cradle to allow air c...
by Spc337
Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:53 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I’m considering pulling my tank out to do a complete test and then refoam. I’ve never done that before. Any views on how complex?
by Spc337
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:28 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Re: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

That should be the same as the 22 from what I understand. I’ll PM my email.
by Spc337
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions
Replies: 23
Views: 21162

Outrage 77-gallon Fuel Tank Dimensions

I’m pricing various options to replace [the fuel] tank in my 1979 Outrage 22. I’m searching for tank dimensions. I’m sure someone has replaced their fuel tank on a 1979 OUTRAGE 22 and has drawings from their tank supplier. Can that someone send me the drawing or the dimensions? I spoke with Chuck Be...
by Spc337
Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacement fuel tank: 1976 Outrage 19
Replies: 7
Views: 5139

Re: Replacement fuel tank: 1976 Outrage 19

I agree. Chuck Bennett says the oem for my year 22 was 70 gallons. But they don’t have the measurements. I surprised no one has the dimensions for either the 70 or 77 gallons versions for an Outrage. I can price any tanks without it and seems my only option is to pull my tank and measure it. I also ...
by Spc337
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:40 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: Replacement fuel tank: 1976 Outrage 19
Replies: 7
Views: 5139

Re: Replacement fuel tank: 1976 Outrage 19

I’m having fuel tank [problems] on 22 Outrage. The tank was replaced in 2007 by a prior owner. I haven’t found the leak yet, as I’m trying to isolate without raising the floor, but I’m reaching the end of options. I’m also wrestling with replacement options and thinking plastic. I’m going to get a q...
by Spc337
Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:07 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

I’ve put on some T-bolt clamps and will test it again in the morning. I tried to use my torque wrench (30lbs) but I got nervous as it seem extremely tight without hitting the limit on the wrench.

This hose will never budge. But does it leak???
by Spc337
Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:24 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

Argh! The hardest part was getting all three screws on the fuel fill fitting on the gunwale as the the hose made it near 8mpossible to get the nuts on.. after much effort, i was off to get fuel. This time, nothing backed up, admirable! Once the tank was full I checked for leaks and my concern was un...
by Spc337
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:37 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

Well, I was able to get both hoses under the floor and to the access area. Both the vent and fuel hoses slid on to the aluminium tank easily with nothing needed to lubricate. This worries me a bit but the new hoses are the same ID as the previous hoses. Double clamped both so i’ll Check for leaks wh...
by Spc337
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

Ok, so the [cause of the slow fueling] has been found,?and it is indeed a collapsed fuel filler hose. Seems the A2 is the correct hose and I can’t find A1 in 1.5-inch size. I did get A1 to replace the vent line and will install that with the new filler line. Getting the old hose off was a pain but e...
by Spc337
Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

I could understand how that could happen. On the trailer it looks to be stern down. However, my tank has maybe 20 gals currently so it would have to be an extreme trim forward to interfere in my opinion. If this was happen towards the end of the fill, I would see how this could happen.
by Spc337
Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:34 am
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

What is the static trim on the boat when you are trying to add fuel to the fuel tank via the on-deck fuel filler port? What are the date marks on all fuel hoses? Do the hoses clearly state they are alcohol resistant? Do the hoses clearly state their USCG rating designation as A1, A2, B1, or B2? Mar...
by Spc337
Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Replies: 13
Views: 6969

1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling

I've recently purchased a 1979 V-22 Outrage in very good condition. Our maiden voyage was great, everything was smooth as expected. My one concern is the fuel filler seems like it has a blockage as it can only accept a trickle. I've checked the vent line and it seems clear. Now I know the usual susp...
by Spc337
Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Older OEM Navigation Lamps; Rail Bases
Replies: 1
Views: 1770

Older OEM Navigation Lamps; Rail Bases

Where can one buy the original navigation lamps for a 1979 Outrage?

The stainless rail bases?
by Spc337
Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:45 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: WTB: Classic Outrage 22
Replies: 3
Views: 3562

WTB: Classic Outrage 22

I’m chasing a ghost, keep getting close to one to have it slip away. On the spectrum of fully restored to major project, I’m definitely on the restored side as I have limited time for major work. Anyone see a good condition hull or thinking about selling yours, please let me know. My kids will thank...
by Spc337
Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: For Sale - 1991 Boston Whaler 21' Walkaround
Replies: 4
Views: 4447

Re: For Sale - 1991 Boston Whaler 21' Walkaround

Can you post some pictures?
by Spc337
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:53 am
Forum: MARKETPLACE
Topic: WTB - Outrage 22 (will consider 18 & 25)
Replies: 1
Views: 2141

WTB - Outrage 22 (will consider 18 & 25)

Ideally with a low hour 4-stroke (wishful thinking). I'm in the Seattle area so closer is better. Need good trailer with it.

Looking for an older boat but not a project boat.

Thanks
by Spc337
Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:28 pm
Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
Topic: 1984 Outrage 18 Planning Many Projects for Boat To Be Purchased
Replies: 5
Views: 3314

1984 Outrage 18 Planning Many Projects for Boat To Be Purchased

I'm planning to purchase a classic 1984 Outrage 18. There are a few problems I want to address which may include cleaning up the existing wiring. I'm a neat freak so I want to run the wires cleanly and zip tie to keep them tidy. The existing battery was moved under the console and I would like to ad...
by Spc337
Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:28 pm
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Inspecting Used Boston Whaler Boats
Replies: 7
Views: 5292

Re: Inspecting Used Boston Whaler Boats

The motor is 2007 and that is when the fuel tank was replaced.

It's a good looking boat, never bottom painted. The heavy gel coat is strange. If this was a work boat, it would have been bottom painted.
by Spc337
Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:57 am
Forum: The GAM
Topic: Inspecting Used Boston Whaler Boats
Replies: 7
Views: 5292

Inspecting Used Boston Whaler Boats

I'm considering purchasing an older Outage 18 with Yamaha 150 and good trailer. The fuel tank and hoses were replaced and look in great shape. It has a partial teak floor and teak gunwales. The price is [$17,000] which seems high given the engine. The electronics are more recent: Garmin 740. I like ...