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- Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:57 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Montauk 17 Steering Cable
- Replies: 1
- Views: 3331
Montauk 17 Steering Cable
What is the length of a steering cable for a MONTAUK 17?
- Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:13 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Four-blade and Three-blade Propeller
- Replies: 30
- Views: 35413
Re: Four-blade and Three-blade Propeller
The reason I started this thread was because everyone always makes the claim that a three-blade gives the best all-around performance. I haven't noticed any loss of maneuverability in reverse as someone else claimed. I believe a four-blade gives the best all-around performance in almost all situatio...
- Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:49 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Wood Trim on MONTAUK console
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6486
Re: Teak Coating Products
Thank you. [Montauk console doors and trim] are in decent shape, but were varnished at some point. I'd prefer to go back to oil or something other than varnish.
What do most here use on teak?
I was thinking Cetol.
What do most here use on teak?
I was thinking Cetol.
- Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:08 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Wood Trim on MONTAUK console
- Replies: 5
- Views: 6486
Wood Trim on MONTAUK console
Are the console doors and trim on a Montauk 17 teak or mahogany?
- Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:36 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Desert Tan Color in a Two-part Paint
- Replies: 6
- Views: 7763
Re: Desert Tan Color in a Two-part Paint
I painted my 1987 Outrage with Interlux Perfection paint in Oyster White. It's a little lighter than Desert Tan, but it was acceptable for a boat that was used exclusively for fishing and lasted for 10 years. My friend who bought the boat from me 5 years ago is repainting it now, last done in 2008. ...
- Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:51 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Four-blade and Three-blade Propeller
- Replies: 30
- Views: 35413
Four-blade and Three-blade Propeller
Are three-blade props really best for overall performance? According to the article (linked below) the only thing a three-blade propeller offers over a four-blade propeller is more [boat speed]. Two years ago, going to a four-blade propeller from a three-blade propeller, I've found that the claims i...
- Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:05 am
- Forum: MARKETPLACE
- Topic: SOLD: 15 Sport for $2,000 in Texas
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3762
Re: Boston Whaler 15 Sport FS
I think you're VERY low on your asking price, if you haven't already sold it.
- Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:38 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1995 OUTRAGE 24: Repair Fuel Tank
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6627
Re: 1995 OUTRAGE 24: Repair Fuel Tank
I also WOULD NOT replace the tank with a smaller plastic tank. Again, if you ever go to sell it, the reduced range would adversely affect the value , especially for someone who does offshore runs. Aluminum tanks usually last about 20-30 years depending on how much the boat is used. Using it more oft...
- Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:52 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 150 Montauk v. 158 Edgewater v. 15 Key West
- Replies: 11
- Views: 10433
Re: 150 Montauk v. 158 Edgewater v. 15 Key West
I would find something used. Going from 13-15 feet is not a very big upgrade and I think you'll have another bout of twofootitis rather soon. If this happens, you'll take a huge hit on the value when you go to sell it. For Long Island sound, I would look at something a little larger, perhaps a Monta...
- Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:55 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1995 OUTRAGE 24: Removing Large T-Top
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10199
Re: 1995 OUTRAGE 24: Removing Large T-Top
Wow, that is a REALLY nice T-top! You'll only know how much you really miss it when you're sitting baking in the sun and have no shelter. I would do like a previous poster said, take it somewhere and have them lift it off with a forklift. I doubt it would be that costly to lift off and store while y...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:36 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Water Drips From Hull of 1984 MONTAUK 17
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10056
Re: Water Drips From Hull of 1984 MONTAUK 17
Most likely the drain tube that goes between the sump and the transom is rotted and is allowing water to enter the foam. If this is the case, first remove any pieces of the tube still remaining. The tube was almost 15" long and was a bear to get all the old pieces of tubing out. After you have ...
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:10 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1995 OUTRAGE 24: Removing Large T-Top
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10199
Re: 1995 OUTRAGE 24: Removing Large T-Top
I think I'd just sell the boat and get something more to your liking. You're going to have a lot of holes to patch, and I think your boat is more desirable with the T-top. The only reason most people would not want a T-top is to fit under a low bridge. As far as electronics in the overhead box-foged...
- Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:51 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Propeller for 9.9-HP Auxiliary
- Replies: 11
- Views: 13263
Re: Propeller for 9.9-HP Auxiliary
Re my Honda 9.9-HP Thruster engine: I use it as an auxiliary engine on my 23 Walkaround. These HONDA 9.9-HP engines are frequently used as auxiliary engines on sailboats and larger boats. I only hang the Honda 9.9-HP on the transom during tuna season when I'm making offshore runs [longer than 100-mi...
- Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:59 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Propeller for 9.9-HP Auxiliary
- Replies: 11
- Views: 13263
Re: Propeller for 9.9-HP Auxiliary
The propeller on my 9.9-HP Honda "thruster" is a 10-inch-diameter x 6.5-inch-pitch four-blade propeller, spinning through a 2.33:1 gear ratio. The propeller is specially designed for pushing heavy loads, not uncommon on 6,000-lbs sailboats. The propeller is claimed to output 15-percent mor...
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:41 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: Propeller for 9.9-HP Auxiliary
- Replies: 11
- Views: 13263
Re: Outrage 18 kicker prop advice needed
I've always found that increasing diameter is always more efficient than increasing pitch. I would stick with a large diameter four-blade aluminum propeller. You could use it more safely in the shallows, and not have to worry about breaking gears if you hit something--unlike the unforgiving stainles...
- Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:22 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Direct fit cooler replacement for a 1987 Montauk
- Replies: 13
- Views: 8523
Re: Direct fit cooler replacement for a 1987 Montauk
If you can fit an RTIC 65 quart cooler, they're aYeti copy for $199 delivered. Will last forever and hinges don't break. I have a 20, 45, and a 145.
- Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:18 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Filling Console Cut-outs
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5640
Re: Filling Console Cut-outs
The other way I've approached this is to use 1/4-inch-thick black Plexiglass rectangular panels to cover holes and also create new spaces to drill into. I cut the plastic on a table saw, then round the edges of the rectangular panels with a 3/16-inch corner-rounding router bit, then flame treat it w...
- Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:10 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 210 Outrage Trim Tab: Recommendation; Installation
- Replies: 21
- Views: 19738
Re: 210 Outrage Trim Tab: Recommendation; Installation
I'd look at 12 x 12 tabs. I think they'd fit just fine, maybe better as a lot of the lifting is blocked by the chines. No such thing as too big. You'll be able to lower your planing speed even more. I had 12 x 12 Lenco's on a 1992 21 Walkaround. Trim Tabs really helped; a 1992 21 WALKAROUND is a rea...
- Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:13 am
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 2007 Outrage 24 Re-power with Single from Twins
- Replies: 7
- Views: 11987
Re: 2007 Outrage 24 Re-power with Single from Twins
Re the comparison to an Outrage 22, I think you're comparing apples to oranges, not the same era or hull design. It may compare more favorably to my 1993 23 Walkaround (4400 lbs hull weight, same hull as a 1993 Outrage 24). With the original twin 150 hp Oceanrunners, it topped out at around 46-47 mp...
- Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:19 pm
- Forum: MARKETPLACE
- Topic: For Sale: 1985 Montauk 17 - $17,500.00
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5673
Re: For Sale: 1985 Montauk 17 - $17,500.00
From the Craigslist link and the Washington registration, I'd assume the boat is located near Seattle, Washington. And to Masbama's assessment of the value, I'd agree. There isn't much value to the motor or trailer, so nearly all the value is in a 33-year-old hull that will be nearly impossible to f...
- Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:25 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Filling Console Cut-outs
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5640
Re: Filling Console Cut-outs
Or make them out of teak for a more finished look to match the doors.
- Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:34 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Keeping Dashboard Panel and Gauges Watertight
- Replies: 16
- Views: 10373
Re: Keeping Dashboard Panel and Gauges Watertight
I wouldn't use the Lifeseal. Its adhesive properties are quite a bit stronger than silicone, and, if you have to work on on the panel, to get the panel off could be a difficult. I'd stick with the silicone.
- Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:20 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6593
Re: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
Re the cause of failures- my 2006 225 lost lube to a wrist pin at 1100 hours and grenaded. Insurance company paid for an autopsy. Always ran XD100 and raved about the engine right until it failed. My normal cruise was 3500-4500 rpm. Of the 1100 hours, there was less than an hour above 5000 rpm on th...
- Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:03 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6593
Re: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
Re the cited example of an E-TEC engine having "blown" at 1,100-hours: my engine presently has accumulated about 550-hours of operation in ten seasons of use, or 55-hours-per-season. Extrapolating that the engine service life will end at 1,100-hours as cited, this means I will have 1100-h...
- Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:41 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6593
Re: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
Yes, it is exactly as you say. Most people never get to even 500 hours in 7 years of use, hence it's an easy gamble on the average user to never see a blown powerhead (blown meaning loss of lubrication resulting in piston through the side of the block). But if we look at the mean times of failure ve...
- Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:42 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
- Replies: 12
- Views: 6593
Re: Evinrude 7-Year Warranty Promotion
[Presumes that the reason Evinrude has made a sale promotion by providing a longer warranty period is] [m]ore likely the premature powerhead failures are becoming more well known now that the older [E-TEC engines] are starting to get up there in hours and are having to be replaced. My 2006 225 blew ...
- Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:01 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Bottom Paint Recommendation
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7969
Re: Bottom Paint Recommendation
Even if you don't barrier coat, I would at least put on 2 coats of epoxy primer which will give a great base to adhere to. I did the full barrier treatment, but other boatyards and the paint manufacturer recommended using Interprotect 2000 as a primer followed by 2 coats of Micron 66. Make sure to r...
- Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:58 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Compare 230 and 240 Outrage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9057
Re: Compare 230 and 240 Outrage
""My 1992 17 Montauk with a 100-HP Johnson was plenty fast and planed great, but I was looking for something with a better ride on the lake. My 18 has that but is a pig with a 135."" An 18 with a 135 should do around 42 to 43-MPH. I had an 18 Outrage with 115-HP, and I found it t...
- Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:20 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Compare 230 and 240 Outrage
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9057
Re: Compare 230 and 240 Outrage
""I found a nice 230 but it only has twin 135-HP engines which to me is under powered: 40 to 42-MPH top speed is just too slow for a 23-foot boat."" Unless you're boating on a lake, there are very few instances where you can run above 30mph in a 23' boat. I have a 1993 23 walk ar...
- Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:05 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 170 Dauntless: Baystar steering is heavy
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8551
Re: 170 Dauntless: Baystar steering is heavy
No Dauntless, only similarity is the 4 blade prop and hydraulic steering. My point was that 4 blade props tend to ventilate less than 3 blades and tolerate higher mounting heights. Moving the trim tab will NOT cause the boat to turn by itself with hydraulic steering. The only effect it will have is ...
- Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:38 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 170 Dauntless: Baystar steering is heavy
- Replies: 14
- Views: 8551
Re: 170 Dauntless: Baystar steering is heavy
If you adjust the trim tab [on the engine gear case under the anti-ventilation plate] you can probably equalize the steering effort. If the engine is pulling to the left, move the trim tab to the left. If you're getting propeller ventilation in turns, the engine could be mounted too high [to allow y...
- Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:57 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 1997 OUTRAGE 24 Re-power
- Replies: 19
- Views: 21860
Re: 1997 OUTRAGE 24 Re-power
Just curious, did you look at the Suzuki 350 horsepower? At about 750 lbs with props, about 250 lbs lighter, and with the duo-prop arrangement, torque steer should be minimal or non-existent, as well as the duo-prop drive being about 15% more efficient than a conventional lower unit. You could add a...
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:24 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Rinsing Fuel Tank Top
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8677
Re: Rinsing Fuel Tank Top
The problem here is that when a tank fails, it's almost always corroded from the inside out, usually at the lowest rearmost point where water and perhaps phase-separated ethanol sit. I've seen a few tanks replaced including my own that had the same pinhole that wasn't visible, even with the tank out...
- Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:59 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Through-hull Fitting Repairs c.2004 190 NANTUCKET
- Replies: 46
- Views: 28599
Re: Through-hull Fitting Repairs c.2004 NANTUCKET
This is an interesting thread and should be renamed and easily found, as it pertains to a lot of boats in addition to Boston Whaler. Someone at our marina hit a log last week. The shock caused the deck drain fitting to break, letting water into the (Hydrasport) boat and almost sinking it. They fille...
- Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:58 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6857
Re: 1979 V-22 Outrage—Slow Fueling
Since the tank was replaced in 2007 and the hoses in 2016, I would venture a guess that the fill hose is too long and either the slope isn't constant or there's a belly in the line. If there's a kink, it's too sharp of a bend where it goes under the deck. Consider adding a 90 degree elbow at the bend.
- Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:42 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: Deck Sealant Replacement
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3114
Re: Deck Sealant Replacement
Another piece of advice: Push the caulking gun forward when filling the seam. I always tool the seam with a plastic edging tool for caulk. Pull the tape as soon as possible after tooling. If the caulk starts to skin over before removing the tape, it will be hard to make it look decent without re-sho...
- Sun May 27, 2018 8:49 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
- Replies: 28
- Views: 19350
Re: 1996 OUTRAGE 24 Ride and Stability
I have a 1993 23 Walkaround with a 250 Honda ( no bracket, motor mounted directly to transom). Top speed is an even 40 mph spinning a Powertech OFS4 15.25 x 17 4 blade prop at 5800 rpm. My normal fast cruise is 28-29 mph at 4500 rpm, but I can run efficiently just as easily at 12 mph with the tabs e...
- Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:51 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 2001 Conquest 26 Re-power Twin 300-HP VERADO
- Replies: 3
- Views: 4518
Re: 2001 Conquest 26 Re-power Twin 300-HP VERADO
I believe he's referring to Revolution 4 propellers, which is a great offshore propeller. Along that line, the Powertech OFS4 would also be worth considering as it offers an additional 5/8" of diameter and would probably be slightly more efficient.
- Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:49 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 23 Outrage with Honda BF225
- Replies: 20
- Views: 20333
Re: 23 Outrage with Honda BF225
I have a 1993 23 Walkaround with a 2013 Honda BF250, Powertech OFS4 17-pitch four-blade propeller. With 150 gallons fuel, light tuna gear, 200-lbs ice, and 2 people (375 lbs), I get 37-MPH tops. If I keep it below 4500 rpm (about 18 to 28 mph), I get well over 2.5-MPG. With lighter loads, I get 40-M...
- Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:35 am
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: SUPER SPORT 13 Deck Repair
- Replies: 9
- Views: 6498
Re: SUPER SPORT 13 Deck Repair
As an alternative method, I used Interlux Perfection paint on the inside, first using a da sander with 80 grit to remove the non-skid, then priming with epoxy primer, sanding with 220 grit between coats until all the gelcoat cracks were filled. Thin the epoxy to a water-like consistency for the firs...
- Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:45 pm
- Forum: MARKETPLACE
- Topic: For Sale 1988 15 SS w/ 1988 60 Johnson & Cox trailer
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3969
Re: For Sale 1988 15 SS w/ 1988 60 Johnson & Cox trailer
Probably not so much the time of year but the asking price seems very high for a 30 year old rig with old power, especially for this time of year. Anyone looking at boats now is looking for a good deal or a steal.
- Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:15 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Extended Warranty
- Replies: 22
- Views: 11774
Re: Extended Warranty
Last year when my friend's 2006 225 E-TEC engine blew, the $400 Geico insurance policy he bought covered all but $250 of the $8,000 cost, including the $1,200 towing bill. You may want to check into your insurance policy to see what coverage you may have included in the cost, or see what it would co...
- Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:12 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 190 Montauk Bimini Design Failure
- Replies: 24
- Views: 14164
Re: 190 Montauk Bimini Design Failure
I would expect to be able to run in 2.5' chop at 37 mph with top down or closed up without damaging the Bimini. In a 2.5 foot chop, I run more like 15 mph in a 23' Whaler. It would seem that running nearly 40 mph would be brutal on both yourself and the boat. Your expectations for the Bimini top ar...
- Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:16 am
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1997 20 Dauntless Re-power
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5776
Re: 1997 20 Dauntless Re-power
I would also look at the Yamaha 4 cylinder 200 at around 500 lbs. We have a couple of them at my marina and all seem happy with them. My friend has one on a 21 Parker and it performs quite adequately coming out of the hole.
Did the dealer recommend the 6 cylinder because he has it in stock?
Did the dealer recommend the 6 cylinder because he has it in stock?
- Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:43 pm
- Forum: REPAIRS and MODIFICATIONS
- Topic: 1968 SPORT 13 Rub Rail Replacement
- Replies: 12
- Views: 9240
Re: Rub Rail
I'd use the rivets. Since the fiberglass is so thin, the screw holds on less than 1 thread. The rivet grabs around the whole circumference of the hole and has no sharp edges to enlarge and loosen the hole like the screw does. Easy to remove by drilling off the head with a 3/16" drill, then push...
- Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:22 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: 1991 21 Walkaround Thru-hull
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3746
Re: 1991 21 Walkaround Thru-hull
If your boat has a raw water wash down pump, you can buy a dual outlet live well pump and utilize the same thruhull fitting for both the wash down and live well pump. If not, my thru-hull was located on the starboard side in the rear bilge and is probably the best location for this hull. Just make s...
- Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:22 pm
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 1991 21 WALKAROUND Slow to Plane with 225-HP
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3694
Re: 1991 21 WALKAROUND Slow to Plane with 225-HP
That motor is over 200 lbs heavier than the 175 hp 2-smoke that most of these boats came rigged with (about 600 lbs for the Honda vs 380 or so for the 175 2-smoke). I had a Honda 250 on mine and ended up moving the batteries to the bow before finally buying a 23' walkaround with 2 old 150 2-smokes a...
- Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:19 pm
- Forum: The GAM
- Topic: Hull Cleaning
- Replies: 15
- Views: 10735
Re: Hull Cleaning
I use Lysol toilet bowl cleaner for rust and lime in the black bottle It works reasonably well and doesn't remove the bottom paint like the on-off does. It's acid based, but not nearly as strong as the on-off. I wet the trailer and keep the hose handy for any drips. A lot cheaper and is available at...
- Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:59 am
- Forum: PERFORMANCE
- Topic: 1997 OUTRAGE 24 Re-power
- Replies: 19
- Views: 21860
Re: 1997 OUTRAGE 24 Re-power
I have a 1993 23 WALKAROUND, which I believe is the same hull as yours, with a single 2013 Honda BF250, re-powered from old twin 150-HP Oceanrunner engines. I get near 3-MPG at any speed below 30-MPG and below 4500-RPM--literally burns half the fuel as the twins. I lost 6-MPH going from 300 to 250-H...
- Sat May 06, 2017 8:16 am
- Forum: SMALL BOAT ELECTRICAL
- Topic: Lowrance HDS Gen3: Installation, Interfacing Tips, and Use
- Replies: 115
- Views: 159465
Re: Lowrance HDS Gen3: Installation, Interfacing Tips, and Use
Just curious, do you find the autopilot tracking is adequate with the Point1-AP? On my boat, it would wander sometimes 20-30 degrees before making a hairpin turn to make an over-correction, totally useless for running offshore. I ended up having to spend $600 on their Precision-9 sensor, a HUGE impr...