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Phil T

I would start with a Suzuki stainless 14 x 22. The engine should be mounted "two-holes-up" meaning the top bolts are in the third hole down from the top.

Phil T

While the boat shown is not technically a "whaler drive" (WD) model, it could have been when originally manufactured. At some point an owner replaced the WD with an Armstrong brand bracket. Armstrong is an American company specializing in brackets and is well respected then and now. It app...

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Whaler's owner resources library has a serious flaw. Not all the diagrams are available for all the model years. For example, to find a drawing for a 2019 Montauk 210 fresh water system, one needs to look at all the years prior to find if it is listed. In this case, the 2013 model year documents inc...

Phil T

The 190 Outrage started production as the 190 Nantucket for the 2003 model year. It was renamed the 190 Outrage for 2006.

Phil T

The hole position in your photo is too high. Should be in the middle of the rigid insert. Down say 1/2-inch.

Phil T

[In reply to a comment in another thread which made reference to this thread, these remarked have been moved to the original thread--Moderator] Re-power Choices with Regard to Power and Weight Only the [boat] manufacturer has to comply with [the power limitation specified on] the capacity plate. For...

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Don - If an owner has a carbureted outboard, installing larger jets can help mitigate some of the impact of the air density change. One can also use a lower pitch prop as well but you can only go so far. In a handlful of cases I know a prop change has helped. In several instances, all high elevation...

Phil T

Yes, [production of the 190 OUTRAGE has been discontinued in 2021]. [The 190 OUTRAGE] had a long and successful run. Additionally the Dauntless 170, 180 and 210 are no longer produced.

Boston Whaler introduced many new models this year including the 230 DAUNTLESS and 250 DAUNTLESS.

Phil T

TJ--without seeing photos of the boat in question, I will proffer the support, backing plates, and related hardware were added by a dealer or installer as an aftermarket feature. It is safe to remove it all and fill the holes in the fiberglass with color matched epoxy. Locktite Marine Epoxy in white...

Phil T

Pogiepika--please do not be adversely affected by the comments of forum members. Occasionally the intent of a typed post can unintentionally be misconstrued. In the end, it is always the owners choice, that is, you, on what to do to a boat and how it will be used. Forum members are attempting to pro...

Phil T

Thoughts that pushed me to a 90hp engine rather than a 115hp engine to repower my Outrage 17. ⋅ The weight difference was significant. ⋅ During my 7 year ownership of the 1991 model, I spent a great deal of time and effort avoiding shipping water in the boat due to the stern bias...

Phil T

If you will be running the engine at 9500 ft elevation, you will loose horsepower regardless of EFI. HP Loss = (elevation divided by 1000) X (0.03 x rated horsepower) A 40hp at sea level will be a 28.6hp at elevation. A 50hp at sea level will be a 35.7hp at elevation. A 60hp at sea level will be a 4...

Phil T

Note the following engine weights: Mercury Fourstroke 40 hp (3 cylinder)....204lbs 40 hp (4 cylinder)....260lbs. 50/60hp...............247lbs. Honda: 40/50 hp..............214lbs. 60hp...................239lbs Suzuki: 40/50/60hp .........229lbs [Moved comments on the effect of fuel-injection on oper...

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DEV--I owned a 1991 Outrage 17 for more than seven years with a F115, and I now own a 1992 model with its original Evinrude 115 two-stroke-power-cycle engine. I did extensive research in preparation of the re-power and regularly talked to many Outrage 17 owners here and abroad. If you search this fo...

Phil T

Brunswick shut down the Commercial Products Division several years ago.

The commercial and government market has shifted to aluminum.

Phil T

This came from Dave's post at the bottom of this thread: http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004278.html Buckda posted 06-05-2009 11:43 AM ET (US) Profile for Buckda Send Email to Buckda I would like to append this discussion with some additional results in testing a 13.25x15 Stiletto ADVANTAG...

Phil T

While there was a diagram from the factory, it will not be accurate and of no use to you.

Splash your boat with a full fuel load and normal gear. Mark the hull with a grease pencil. Paint the hull slightly above the line.

Phil T

The list of recommended props for the Montauk 17 with an E-TEC 90 from owners testing include: 13.25x19 Stiletto ADVANTAGE 1 13.5 x 20” Raker 13-7/8" x 19” BRP Viper 13-1/4" x 19” SST (2 holes up) 13-1/4" x 17” Turbo 1 I would mount the engine 3 holes up unless you pick the SST prop l...

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Jerry - Note that propeller performance is not connected to size due to different blade design for each model of prop. A 15-1/2 x 17 Yamaha painted stainless steel prop will not necessarily perform as a 15-1/2 x 17 Suzuki stainless steel. It is important to note make and the model and size of each p...

Phil T

It is not possible to run wiring in the hull or via the rub rail. When installing a bow mounted on a boat that is not "pre-wired", one method used is the "extension cord" method. The highly recommended approach is to install batteries in the console, wired to a receptacle [socket...

Phil T

https://www.wholesalemarine.com/stainless-steel-tubing-7-8/

Where did you find it?

Phil T

Check your local area for a company that does awards and plating. Get a quote.

Phil T

I would be concerned the owner left it like that for years. Doesn't say much for his level of maintenance.

Holes in the hull or deck of a Boston Whaler Unibond hull are the Achilles heel.

Pre-covid this would be a $7,000 boat.

Phil T

To get a better sense of the damage at the bottom of the rail base, you will need to lift up the rail. To do this, remove all the screws to the rail bases and place two 2 x 4 planks across the gunwale under the rail bases. You may need to open up the damaged area. Report back the dimensions of the d...

Phil T

If the boat is stored out of the water, plugs should be removed.

If stored in a rack or at a marina I would not remove it or trust them with it.

Phil T

Bob--Engines more than 30-HP are not sold with a propeller included as there is no "standard" propeller. A propeller is selected based on the engine and the hull it is mounted on. Boston Whaler owners with a Sport 13 and a classic Yamaha 40 two-stroke-power-cycle engine have tested many pr...

Phil T

Highly doubt there are E-TEC engines left at any local dealers.

Phil T

Given the F200 is the same weight, you should be fine.

As for the Suzuki, it is only 40-lbs more. I doubt there will be a significant impact.

If the batteries are in the stern, you can move them to the console and the weight difference will be offset.

Phil T

What is the static trim of the boat as it was?

Any photos showing the transom from ten feet away?

Where was the water line in relation to the engine splashwell drains?

Phil T

For owners re-powering with engines that increase the engine weight, simulate the proposed new weight on the boat prior to making a purchasing decision. Add bags of sand or jugs of water so the new weight is in the stern. Drive the boat and observe its handling--not acceleration--n different sea con...

Phil T

I would recommend a Turbo Swing.

https://turboswing.com/

Easy to install, remove. Stronger and not prone to breaking.

Phil T

If I were in a position where I needed additional fuel capacity on a frequent basis I would make the following modifications. ⋅ Relocate the forward cooler to a location aft of the RPS. ⋅ Remove the hold-down bracket on the forward face of the console. ⋅ Install a secon...

Phil T

Buddy - Where are you located so we can offer local vendors.

If you add your location to your profile, members can give regional recommendations.

Phil T

I would proffer that given the symptoms and work done, I suspect [the cause of the lugging will be due to] the injectors. The injector sprays a very fine spray of fuel into the cylinder. The screens and small passages in the injector can get dirty to vlogged. This reduced flow shows as the engine bo...

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Tony--given that propellers are very expensive, $300 to $900, here is some background meant to help. In completing the task of propeller selection and engine rigging, it is important to note the following: ⋅ When testing for propellers, it is important to keep all variables, other than the...

Phil T

An additional factor in bow porpoising is an engine being mounted too low. Given the 5" of setback, the engine height, at any planing speed, should be such that the anti-cavitation plate, located just above the prop, should be 2 to 2-1/2 inches above the keel of the boat. To measure this proper...

Phil T

Use "Liquid Electrical Tape" (a product name) to get another few months of service until you can round up the appropriate connectors to cut away the degraded cable and install a new short section. This assumes there is no existing slack that can be found to cut out the degraded section and...

Phil T

Consider liquid electrical tape as a short term fix.

It really needs to be replaced.

You don't need to replace the entire run. Only the ~1'ft that is exposed.

Phil T

Not my idea actually.

Birdsall Marine offers a leaning post backrest that has folding arms. I took notice of it during a cruise aboard Henry, aka The Yiddil's, Nantucket/Outrage 190 on the Potomac River last year.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/003440.html

Phil T

A3: If I could read the engineer's mind, to use the stern platform, one would remove the backrest and the seat platform and use the step to gain access to the platform. If it were me and I already had the boat, I would fabricate the rear seats rather than order the parts from the factory. Two option...

Phil T

There are two rear seating options for the 2018 or newer 170 Montauk II: individual stern quarter seats and a full width seat. These can be ordered from your local dealer. Note the MSRP prices do not include delivery, installation or dealer preparation. From the Boston Whaler website: sternSeat-1.jp...

Phil T

Due to Covid, used boat prices for Boston Whalers are through the roof.

Where your boat would be worth ~7K pre-covid, the current market price would be in the 10-12K range. This price also reflects that it is winter.

Be prepared for a ton of interest, many naysayers and low-ballers.

Phil T

Well the jackplate is NOT helping you. How much setback?

Where is the anti-ventilatoin plate in relation to the keel? Use a straight edge to measure.

Adding transom weight and moving the engine aft is exacerbating the tendency for the bow to oscillate.

Phil T

[edit - deleted erroneous information]

The recommended props for your model and engine are 3 bladed stainless steel, eg. 14x18 Suzuki SS or a 14x22 Stiletto Advantage I.

Answer the above questions, and then we can discuss propellers.

Phil T

The Power Tec LNR 4 is a four-bladed stainless steel prop.

See https://www.ptpropeller.com/content-pro ... amaha.html

Phil T

In addition to the above information request, please provide the following: ⋅ Years of boating experience ⋅ Engine height on the transom. How many empty holes in the bracket above the top bolts? ⋅ Location of fuel tank (stern, midships, bow) ⋅ Location of batt...

Phil T

It is a general recommendation to delay performance testing until after the manufacturer's break-in has been completed. Changes based on preliminary testing results will lead to incorrect recommendations for props. You have reduced the horsepower and gained engine weight with the new engine. A reduc...

Phil T

Your new engine is labelled and marketed as the 115 SHO and not as the F115 SHO. The 115 SHO is modified F115 engine with different cam shafts, reprogrammed ECU and a higher max WOT of 5300-6300 rpms. According to Yamaha, peak horsepower occurs at 5400-RPM I do not recall Boston Whaler specifying tr...

Phil T

You missed my post on replacements. Look up a few posts and read viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6069&p=35544#p35540.

Phil T

I made a short video to show the attachment as well as an alternative.

https://flic.kr/p/2kit3ih

Here are two photos of the hinged method described in the video.

: Fig. 3. Seat with modified method of attachment using hinge.; Outrage17qtrseathinged.jpeg (43.44 KiB) Viewed 2829 times

: Fig. 4. Two modified hinged seats in open position.; outrage17hinged.jpeg (47.63 KiB) Viewed 2829 times

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