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If you have not gone out and purchased epoxy yet, I recommend several brands other than WEST SYSTEM. I prefer MAS or System Three for ease of use and no-blush characteristics. A mini epoxy kit that included the resin, hardener, calibrated pumps, wood flour, and silica powder is a a very handy packag...

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I was aware of this model but had never noticed one come up for sale until now:

http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/5333882396.html

For those of you who enjoy restoring older Boston Whalers, this might be a rare opportunity?

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Your 1987 Guardian 18 was based on the Outrage 18 hull design. The layout of your interior appears to be the same as the circa 1980's Outrage 18, the only difference I see is that some components such as the console are not identical. Around 1990, the Outrage 18 was re-named the Outrage 19 (aka 19 O...

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Nice work. I might suggest reducing the depth of the new tank so that it is less likely to contact moisture in the channel at the bottom of the tank cavity. You would lose some tank volume, but modern outboard engines tend to be more fuel efficient than those from the era when this boat was built, s...

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I remember when you sold that boat last summer. I think I even spooled a video or two of you cruising along up on plane in nice flat conditions. The price was very reasonable and it seeemed like a lot of Whaler for the money (unfortunately, I don't have space in my driveway for a rig that size.) Gre...

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I own the same model Boston Whaler as your 19 Outrage II, with a 1992 Yamaha 150-H two-stoke-cycle outboard. The specified full-throttle operating range of this engine is the same as your Johnson 150. With the boat fairly heavily laden, we are able to spin the Yamaha 150 up to 5,300-RPM or so, attai...

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As far as Mercury's efforts to gain more of the re-power market... I would like to see Mercury produce a more potent version of their 2.1L in-line 4-cylinder 4-stroke engine. The current top version of this engine (115 CT) weighs only 384 lbs in the 25" shaft. If Mercury could bump the rating o...

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Copy that. What a hassle. I hope the repair comes together for you -- once you get the brackets removed you should be well on your way.

The Outrage 17 looks very nice. I usually see that model with a 115 HP engine. Yours with the 150 HP engine must scoot along nicely!

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... By the way, this is the first time in 17 years this part is coming out, it's all original. The top of the tank looks to be in good condition. Why are you removing the tank? Were you having a problem with it, or is this preventative maintenance? Also, I'm curious what model Boston Whaler you hav...

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Caveat: I have never removed one of those brackets. Assuming you have removed any fasteners and all that is left holding the brackets to the sidewall is a sealant of some kind that you suspect is something like 3M4200 or 3M5200, there are various products which can be applied to sealants of this kin...

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I am not Canadian and am unfamiliar with Crown Land juris prudence. But I expect "exercise the right to navigation" refers to vessels that are capable of maneuvering through the water with some form of propulsion towards a destination, as opposed to stationary floating objects such as dock...

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Great trip report, thanks!

If you were in an Outrage 18, would you have launched at your inn and made the run down along the 7 mile bridge in the boat, or would you have still trailered it to Duck Key?

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There's a lot to like about these engines, functionally and mechanically. The "clean rigging" is brilliant. The 2-gallon oil reservoir tucked under the engine cowling is a big improvement too. Cosmetically speaking, I happen to think the white Evinrude ETEC engines (not the G2s) with their...

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In the Annapolis area, you would be hard pressed to find anyone using a' Whaler TENDER 9 as a tender. They are far too heavy too tow or to lift on deck. A comparable-sized wood-fiberglass composite dinghy would only weigh 80-90 lbs, would have abundant carrying capacity as well as form stability, wo...

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The conventional wisdom usually advises two mooring pendants. And in fact, many marinas and harbormasters still cling to this requirement. However, after decades of mooring boats of various sizes, I recommend against this approach. Dual pendants have the tendency to tangle, wrap, and wear at each ot...

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... They took on water very quick down below causing unforeseen instability resulting in the accident.... (just my opinion) That was my thinking as well. But then we apparently have an oral report from a passenger attributing the accident to a large wave. I don't necessarily place much stock in the...

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Thanks for the report. Just to confirm, your top speed of 35 was reported in nautical miles per hour, not statute miles per hour?

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From that era, I generally prefer the holdover smirked hulls, but in my opinion the 21 Outrage or Walkaround hull was one of the best new designs Whaler offered. I like the size and fuel tankage. I agree that 150 HP may be on the low end of the spectrum for this boat, but you could get a better feel...

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A rogue wave capsizd this large Whale-watching tour boat off the West Coast of Vancouver Island. Five British tourists died in this freak marine mishap. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/whale-watching-boat-sinks-off-vancouver-island 11209527_900730490005907_2559933799712372303_n.jpg I could...

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... The easiest way to increase the power of an outboard engine of a particular rating to a different model with more power based on the same block is just to sell the lower power engine and buy the higher power engine. .... This would be my advice as well. Even trading in with a dealership, you sh...

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1989 Outrage 18 BBS, your Outrage 18 is very sharp looking with that ETEC 150. The lack of any hand rails gives your boat a very tidy appearance -- it really shows off the clean lines of these Whalers. Beautiful boat. There are so many nice looking boats being posted up we could easily fill this th...

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Copy that. As an owner of the same model boat, I'll be interested to follow along and hear what you settle upon and how it works out. Since you own and have experience with a E-TEC 200 2.6-liter, could you offer some insights as to what you feel the advantages are of the large four-cycle engines you...

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I also own a 19 Outrage II. I would not want to add one more pound of weight to the transom than what I currently have in the 1992 Yamaha 150 two-cycle engine (at 430-lbs plus approximately 25-lbs of remote oil reservoir filled to capacity in starboard aft stern locker). The Yamaha 150 four-cycle en...

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Considering the following factors: --the present engine is if good condition, runs well, and exhibits good performance, --the cost of a new replacement modern engine is staggering, --the present value of the present engine if sold off will only offset a portion of the new engine cost, and --the pre...

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Thanks for that additional info concerning propeller choices, Marko. Our current Yamaha 150 has a 4-blade stainless steel prop, 14.5" diameter x 17" pitch. Based on what you are running with the DF140A, it sounds like my current prop falls somewhere between your light and heavy load choice...

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I appreciate the additional feedback regarding E-TEC fuel economy and the comparison of the E-TEC 135 H.O. to the Suzuki DF140A. I'm sure I'd be very happy with either of these engines, as their respective pros and cons seem to balance out in the end (my usage would be similar to Marko, i.e. top spe...

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Wow what a load of beautiful boats all around. It's nice to see the spectrum from old "woodies" to modern models. Keep them coming! Alan I'm jealous as that is on my bucket list. Never made it that far in my big boats but now that I have a trailer-able one I hope to make it up there. Great...

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We spend a fair bit of time cruising in no wake zones and fishing (at about 5 knots -- not idle speed but in the low 1000s rpm). So based on the information Peter provided, it sounds like we should expect to see marked improvement in fuel economy with the ETEC 135 HO. Thanks for that feedback.

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Thanks to all for the very helpful info. The Evinrude Parts link is definitely handy -- I had not come across that yet on their website. At this point I have gathered enough information to make an informed decision. But if someone should happen upon this thread who has first-hand experience with the...

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As for the location of the oil reservoir tank, you could install it in the center console. You can get a remote filler cap option so it would be handier to add oil to the tank when it was somewhat buried in the center console interior. I do not like the idea of giving up space in the center console...

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Evinrude uses the same size remote oil tanks with the E-TEC engines that were used previously: 1.8-gallon and 3-gallon. I think the fuel tank on an 1992 OUTRAGE 19 II (which I believe is the boat being discussed here) has a 76-gallons capacity. If you use a 1.8-gallon oil reservoir tank and get a n...

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Peter, yes, this is a 19 Outrage II which has the same hull as the Outrage 18 but with the transom notched for a single outboard engine, and with port and starboard stern seats with lockers underneath. The port aft stern locker is empty and the location and size of this locker is very convenient for...

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Thank you both for the additional information -- it is all very helpful. I am happy to hear that the performance of the ETEC 135 HO is likely well-matched to the Outrage 18/19. It would still be very helpful to hear a first hand account of an installation of an ETEC 135 HO on the Outrage 18/19. But ...

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Thanks for the feedback. I do not know what the price delta is between the ETEC 150 and 135 HO, but ordinarily I would be more interested in the ETEC 150 because it is the same weight as the 135 ETEC HO and is within the manufacturer's recommended HP rating for the Outrage 18/19 hull. However, in th...

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I am seeking input regarding the suitability of the Evinrude E-TEC 135 H.O. outboard for the Boston Whaler Outrage 18/19 model that was produced from the mid-1980s through mid-1990s. Especially welcome would be first-hand accounts from owners of Boston Whaler Outrage 18/19 models as to whether this ...

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If the forward part of the vessel while still on the trailer had been rigged with lateral supports , it may have survived the launching process without the fatal capsize roll. To my way of thinking, they lucked out when it rolled over at launch. If it had survived the launch, there is a good chance...

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The yacht just looks top-heavy to me.

I had the same impression. It's possible the extensive modifications to enlarge and stretch the design are the root of the problem. But if I owned one of the smaller sisterships, I would still have my doubts.

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From the report: Vessel and Builder New World Yacht Builders began construction of the Baaden in December 2011, working from an existing 80-foot-hull mold built in 2002 by Northern Marine. Like other large Northern Marine yachts, the vessel was custom designed. The 80-foot mold was lengthened in the...

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I was able to post photos by dragging them from my desktop and dropping them in the compose dialogue box (where you type text for a post).

I do not know the size limit [The image size limit for images to be uploaded and hosted is 256K--jimh.]

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