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Tacky79

My 2017 190 Montauk base price was $36,281 per my paperwork. If the 2019 190 Montauk base price is now $47,497, that's an increase of 31% over two years. So, if those numbers are accurate, Boston Whaler has had some stratospheric price increases. I haven't kept up on pricing since buying our boat, s...

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I did say "near" that price. I can tell you that I paid near that price for a new Montauk only two years ago, so there's one data point. Now, that is two years ago, but still, pricing hasn't gone up that much in two years, has it? Boat show pricing, from what I'm told, typically allows for...

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You should be able to get a 190 Montauk with a 150 HP engine near that price [$42,000], I'd think. Especially with boat show pricing.

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Perfect boat:
--retractable sun shade; check.
--Ski pole: check.
--twin 225s: check

Beefy looking trailer, too--is it aluminum?

Congrats

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That 270 Dauntless is a nice boat!

The 270 Dauntless is our grail boat, but we're going to stick with our Montauk for a few more years. More pics, please.

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....I specifically asked Merc support if Trim and other functions like Boost will be available via the Vessel View Mobile and they said, "Yes." Interesting, but I'm a bit skeptical. What engine do you have? I can't find any trim indication on my app for my 150 HP FOURSTROKE. Note that the...

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I paid full price last summer. I think it was $275. I mostly use it to try and accurately track my fuel usage, and to verify hours on my engine. I installed under the Mercury 150 FOURSTROKE engine cowling, but I think I saw a connector that would work in my center console. I might move it there in t...

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"I would not care to own a yacht that required any crew." I agree, Butch. My wife talked about taking a cruise, and I decided that I'm not spending a vacation on a boat unless I'm the captain (or maybe a good friend is the captain). Our best vacation ever, was bareboat chartering a 45-foo...

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I just called my bank to see if I had $10MM in my account and they laughed at me and hung up.

I think I'll keep my yacht expenses in the sub-28' Whaler category for now!

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You should save this link, just in case that lottery ticket comes through.
;-)

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Re: trailerability, I think we are quickly moving towards having a boat that we leave in Wisconsin and we plan to retire there in the somewhat near future. But yes, trailerability is important for the short term. We can tow 5,000-lbs now, and that 220 Outrage would push that limit--maybe exceed it. ...

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Our 190 Montauk is away on vacation (inside storage for winter), so we sometimes day dream about the "next boat" this time of year. I have a few questions regarding various Whalers that seem like a good fit for our next boat. We are a family of five with a dog and new to power boating--two...

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Jon - are you talking about the 22' Outrage that we normally see at Anderson Dock in Ephraim? We visit there every summer--right across from Ephraim Yacht Harbor. If so, Beacon Marine in Sister Bay would probably sell it on consignment, but Boat Trader or YachtWorld would get you a lot of attention ...

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I have a 5.2 Harpoon, and decent models seem to go for about $2,000 with trailer.

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We have a 2017 190 Montauk and we enjoy using it for fishing, skiing with the kids, and hanging out/sunbathing/messing around/jumping off/cruising. The advantage that I can see, for the Montauk, is the bow has that big flat deck which is great for fishing in calm waters (as well as sunbathing, nappi...

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Like Butch, we don't have bow railings on our 190 Montauk. I've never been on the boat and thought "I wish we had railings".

But, I can see what you mean - having short railings would probably look good!

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Great info!

Thanks!!!!

;-)

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Phil - do you have one of those Turbo Swings? Looks like a great option for me as well. I was looking at the Whaler tow arch, but it wouldn't allow me to use the boat cover that I have now. I think this Turbo Swing would.

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We just drove through there week after last on our way up to Door County all the way from home here in Denver. The "sea" conditions in Lake Michigan and Green Bay were very different than I see here on lakes in Colorado, so it was fun to experience that in our 190 Montauk. I wish I could h...

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You are all going to be right down the road from Beacon Marine. Maybe Sue will bring down a nice cooler full of beer for you!

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190 Montuak has nice, big self-bailing drains. Given that the bilge pump draws little power, I'd think a solar charger would do the trick, despite overcast weather.

Or, put the boat on a lift or a floating dock--maybe.

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Congrats! Someday, we'll take a look at one, as it's probably the best boat for our family.

Looking forward to the pics.

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My brand new Danforth got jammed (between boulders or something), and I had to cut it free, along with six feet of nice stainless chain, too. I need to pick up another anchor. I had a S600 9-lbs Danforth. It really stinks to cut the rode on a brand new anchor! For a 190 Montauk what anchor is best? ...

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Most “family” boats are a hit with the wife and kids for a year or two, then dad’s out fishing with his brother after that. Good point, and I think that's where the Vantage makes good sense. Decent for fishing, yet VERY family friendly with the cushions and head, etc. If I ever budget $150k for a b...

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I put a 5/32" cotter pin in last night and I'm sure it'll work just fine. Snug fit similar to how the pin fits. I think the danger would be if you were to use a smaller diameter cotter pin. I just want to make sure it's right so as to avoid losing a wheel along the highway in the middle of nowh...

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230 Vantage sounds about right for you, but it's $150k and can't quite get into the shallow waters that the Montauk can, but we are only talking a difference of inches, so that may not be of concern. It's better setup for 8 (to 10) people than a center console, in my opinion. From my readings, the D...

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Dutchman - here's a pic and video. In the video, the guy shows removal of this L-pin and at 2:30 in the video, he explains why they don't use a cotter pin. This drawing shows how the grease has to travel from the zerk to the inner bearing and back. The L-pin would be at the top of this picture holdi...

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Per Karavan, if you use a cotter pin, the grease may short circuit and not get pushed to the inner bearing. But, that only matters when pumping grease, so I guess I’ll pump grease with a 5/32 section of rod, then replace with a cotter pin when done.

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We are about to take our annual trip to Wisconsin from Colorado and I inspected the Karavan trailer bearings, and tightened one. Upon removal of the castle nut L-pin, I destroyed it. Nearest replacement comes from Karavan and they want $75 to get it to me this week. Does anyone have experience with ...

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mobroy - did you end up buying this Dauntless?

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My 2017 had the aft seating as an option and the backrests slide into the rod holders. In 2017, the seat bottoms don't fold up, though, so that's a nice improvement.

But I really like the bow storage (fishbox), as we are always looking for more room to store things.

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I'm thinking about getting a console cover since we'll be slipping our 190 Montauk for a week or so coming up.

Besides Wm. J. Mills & Co., is there another supplier I should consider?

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I agree - seems too easy, but as a big dealer, they are probably not too keen on sitting on a 2017 after Memorial Day. I guess I'd just confirm with your sales guy the actual price, all the options, get it in writing and buy the darn thing! Coincidentally, I was "building" a 210 Dauntless ...

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You better hurry and go buy that thing before I decide to hookup my trailer and head down there (1000 miles away) and work a trade up deal on my Montauk with them! (I'm kidding. OK. Only 1/2 kidding. ;-) ) That seems like a GREAT price. You could buy it today, use it for the next year, and sell it f...

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Well that sounds like a fantastic deal to me, then. 30% off MSRP. There are a few used 2015/2016s for that price. I'd jump on that in a heart beat.

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If it comes with a trailer, that's a great deal. It seems to me, for a leftover 2017, 10% off should be easy to get (which it looks like you have already, assuming you don't get a trailer). In our negotiations, I just kept the discussion going, asking questions, asking about price ranges, etc. We go...

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Yes - my trailer has 4 disc brakes.

I also use an IR thermometer during long trips for peace of mind.

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I have a dual-axle Karavan trailer with the SureLube system. I have had the trailer for a year now, and have trailered my 190 Montauk about 2200 miles. This is my first maintenance. I jacked up the trailer, removed the dust caps, and used a grease gun with Johnson/Evinrude grease (http://shop.evinru...

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I didn't like securing our 2017 190 Montauk to the dock using only the bow and stern cleats. I have seen other 190 Montauk boats with cleats added forward. I contacted Sue Lodel at Beacon Marine, and she happens to have the same boat, and added cleats to her boat. I ordered the cleats and hardware f...

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A quick update. I ordered the VesselView mobile module (from Sue Lodell at Beacon Marine) and last night got it installed on my 2017 Mercury 150: ⋅ I looked in the console of my 2017 Montauk 190 and couldn't see that I had any appropriate harness connectors in there to connect, so I instal...

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Butch - I only have analog gauges, so I'm looking for more information from the engine. Trim would be interesting to me, too.

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I plan on buying VeselView Mobile for my 150 4stroke Merc soon, as I'd like to know my engine hours and a better idea of fuel usage and tank level. Before I buy it, I thought I'd ask to see if there are other options worth considering. MercMonitor and VesselView4 are more expensive, but have the adv...

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Right - I'm not sure hers are at C1. I was giving that as an example on how that drawing isn't so great, as it really doesn't give you enough data to accurately locate C1, if you wanted to locate that area. I think her cleat is located aft of C1. Her's were not factory options, per my understanding.

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Thanks guys. Sue at Beacon Marine--big thanks, Sue--sent me a picture of her 190 Montauk forward cleat with a tape measure showing the distance from the textured part of the gunwale . As soon as I pull the boat out of winter storage, I'll try the stud finder or tap methods to see if I can confirm C1...

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Thanks Jimh. I don't agree with you, though, on the quality of the drawing. Now... I'm just a Chemical Engineer, so I am not as skilled looking at mechanical drawings, but in my opinion, it'd be a really great drawing if there was a reference point that I could measure from to locate all those pheno...

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Butch - I agree on the looks - it certainly doesn't add to the good looks of our boats, but the practicality of using that for skiing is very temping. I forgot about access via the hatches. I bet it's not too tough to install. The only other costly concern, is my boat cover would need to be modified...

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Thanks Butch. Whaler's tow arch looks like this. I was quoted $710.

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Thanks. Now... the Tow Arch. I'm a bit torn on that one - it's expensive, but would be very nice for skiing and allow us to avoid bending over the engine as we attach the bridle. I'm told it can be added to our boat, but it's hard to imagine how a screwed-in tow arch is strong enough to pull a skier...

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I'm in touch with Sue / Beacon Marine, and she has the same boat and cleats mounted in that area. She was willing to take some measurements to help me out, so that's great!

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I have a 2017 190 Montauk and would like to add forward cleats (port and starboard) for securing fenders and docklines. I'm also considering adding a tow arch as we are starting to water ski. Page 5-10 shows the reinforcement diagram: https://bostonwhaler-8c1e.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/19...

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