Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

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Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Whalerdog » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:20 am

Will a 210 MONTAUK maximum power be bumped to 225-HP?

WIll other Boston Whaler boats?

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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Phil T » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:44 am

If the engine weights of available Mercury outboards falls, and it fits in the formula, then YES.

A case in point is the 190 Nantucket or 190 Outrage. It started with a maximum power of 115-HP. It is now up to 200-HP, due to the introduction of the four-cylinder Verado.
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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby jimh » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:32 am

It is widely known that all Boston Whaler boats are sold by the factory with Mercury engines. It has been suggested that the maximum horsepower rating of some boats has been changed when a particular Mercury engine of a certain horsepower became available.

Since you ask about a specific boat, the 190 MONTAUK, please tell us its present rating for maximum power. I am afraid I don't carry that information around in my head. To discuss that rating, it would be very useful to know what it is.

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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Phil T » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:52 am

Boston Whaler's website listing for the 2017 Montauk 210 AND the redesigned 2018 Montauk 210 (I would call it a Montauk 210 II) shows a maximum Engine Weight of 700 lbs and a maximum engine hp as 200.

cf: 2017 http://bostonwhaler.com.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/210-Montauk-Spec-Sheet-2017.pdf

cf: 2018 http://bostonwhaler.com.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/210-MONTAUK-2018-SPEC.pdf
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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby jimh » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:55 am

I think the 210 MONTAUK, with a present rating of 200-HP, will be an interesting model to watch for any change in maximum power. But, given that Mercury probably already was aware of the coming 225-HP V6 FOURSTROKE engine, it would have been possible for Boston Whaler to have already increased the rating, if Boston Whaler intend to offer the Mercury 225-HP as an option.

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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Dutchman » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:36 pm

The original 170 Montauk was [rated only for] 90-HP; the new 2018 170 Montauk has optional 115-HP. With the lower [engine] weights [the maximum power ratings] seem to increase
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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby jimh » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:03 pm

I think what is really happening is more like this: Boston Whaler has identified a particular transom weight maximum limit. If Mercury introduces a new engine whose weight falls under that limit, then Boston Whaler might consider using that engine if the horsepower is under the maximum power rating. If Mercury makes a new engine that meets the weight rating but exceeds the power rating, Boston Whaler might re-assess the horsepower limit it imposed on their boat.

I would not expect Boston Whaler to make a dramatic increase in the horsepower rating for any model they make simply to allow use of a new Mercury engine. That would call into question their basis for the original horsepower limit. It would also be rather transparent what was going on.

All the time of introduction of the original 170 MONTAUK that was rated at 90-HP there was a Mercury 115-HP engine available. If Boston Whaler was going to manipulate specifications for horsepower rating just to fit the Mercury engine line, you would have thought they would have set the rating at 115-HP and offered that engine as an option.

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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Phil T » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:28 pm

I think Jim is mostly right with one missing element.

The one constant over the past hp changes is max. engine weight. This has not changed within a model. As Mercury has introduced lighter engines, max hp has increased.

The Montauk 170 II has a different hull shape (wider and longer) and is heavier so it is not unrealistic for the added hp.
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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Whalerdog » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:08 pm

So the 2007 19 Montauk was rated for 115 now it is 150 HP the boat didn't change. Funny the 115 Merc weight is the exactly what a 19' was was rated for when released 410 lb. 2008 19' Montauk was rated for 135 HP. Then it jumped to 150 HP when that was out.

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Re: Will Maximum Power Ratings of Boston Whaler Boats Change

Postby Phil T » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:33 pm

I recall that in 2008 Mercury introduced a 4 cyl Verado line. First engine available was the 135. Followed by the 150.
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