Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

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Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby River1123 » Wed May 01, 2019 2:01 pm

I am sure to have water [collecting in the areas shown in Figures 1 and 2] is normal, but it is frustrating.

What is this area called?
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Is there any way to [stop water from collecting in the unnamed areas shown]?

Thanks

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Re: Water Collecting Here- Is this normal?

Postby Acassidy » Wed May 01, 2019 4:39 pm

[The unnamed area shown above in Figure 1and 2] is a great place for a bilge pump. When I owned a Montauk I installed a 500 GPH pump and ran a hose over the transom.
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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby jimh » Wed May 01, 2019 4:47 pm

Water collects in low areas. In a MONTAUK 17 hull there is a COCKPIT SUMP, a low area INTENTIONALLY designed to collect water.

My best guess regarding your images: they show the cockpit sump of a MONTAUK 17.

Since the COCKPIT SUMP is a low area INTENTIONALLY DESIGN TO COLLECT WATER, there is not a simple or easy or quick way to stop water from collecting there because it is a low area designed to collect water.

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby River1123 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:42 pm

Okay. Great. Thanks.

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby River1123 » Thu May 02, 2019 5:23 pm

Should I put the plug on the outside of the transom?

Or put the plug where this sump is?

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby jimh » Thu May 02, 2019 8:29 pm

Boston Whaler answers your question in the owner’s manual:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/refere ... drainTubes

As can be inferred from the guide, though-hull drains are to be plugged from inside the boat, with the exception of a transom drain on certain 17-foot hulls where access to the cockpit sump is prevented by an overlay deck or covering.

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby dtmackey » Thu May 02, 2019 9:48 pm

Check your bailing plug brass tube. Based on the pic you provided, it doesn't appear to be sitting square against the gelcoat and they are a point of failure in Whalers. They can be replaced and if your's is compromised, then it could allow water into the transom area foam and transom core.

I've replaced many of them on the Whalers I've owned over the years.

On 13, 15 and 17 models owned, after replacing the brass tube, I installed a small Rule bilge pump to dewater the boat and then put a plug both on the inside and outside of the brass tube to prevent salt water from entering and causing another failure.

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby River1123 » Sat May 04, 2019 12:35 pm

I will certainly do that.

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby MattFL » Tue May 07, 2019 1:47 pm

Lots of Montauk boats used plastic drain tubes. I don't know the advantages or disadvantages.

I got a replacement [drain tube] from Twin Cities Marine in Two Rivers, Wisconsin.

If the boat lives under a cover or inside when not in use, then you can use an old towel to get out the water before storage.

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Re: Montauk 17 Water Collection Sumps

Postby jimh » Tue May 07, 2019 2:33 pm

This thread has been pursuing an answer to the question, "What do you call [the place shown in the two un-captioned and un-described images included in the initial post]?" and two follow-up questions, "How do you stop water from running downhill?" and "Where are plugs for drains installed"?

For advice on replacement of brass through-hull drains, a completely different topic that requires a far more lengthy answer than the three prior questions, please see the FAQ.

Questions about how to repair brass through-hull drains were so frequently asked that they became a Frequently-Asked Question, and a thorough but concise answer has been written. See

Q12: How Are Drain Tubes Replaced?
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/FAQ/#Q12