Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

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Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby fredboatman » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:05 pm

Located in Southern California. 1 owner boat. 1986 Boston Whaler Montauk with 2011 90hp Evinrude ETEC Outboard. Outboard has 280 hours and has been maintained well.

26 gallon tank under the reversible pilot seat. 92 quart cooler with factory Whaler cushions. Mahogany rear deck tidies up and covers batteries and wiring. Sump pump, antenna, navigation lamps, 12-Volt port, anchor locker, and much more.

Teak balance beam doubles as downrigger mount. Wired and mounts for Scotty downriggers.

Console has been cleaned up and organized with starboard hatches and storage locker with drawers.

Icom VHF and Lowrance HDS 8 as well as compass and full gauge set compliment the dash. Two batteries with switch and onboard charger. Binimi top, factory front deck cushion.

Original EZ Loader galvanized trailer with new Goodyear Marathon tires.

What would is a fair market value for this boat? Thank you
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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby jimh » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:47 am

Based on the California location, the recent re-power, the nice upgrades, and the apparent excellent overall condition, this 1986 MONTAUK should sell for $18,000 to $20,000. While it may be possible to get more than $20,000 for this fine boat, I would expect the seller would need to be patient. I may be underestimating the influence of the California cost basis.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby fredboatman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:54 am

jimh wrote:Based on the California location, the recent re-power, the nice upgrades, and the apparent excellent overall condition, this 1986 MONTAUK should sell for $18,000 to $20,000. While it may be possible to get more than $20,000 for this fine boat, I would expect the seller would need to be patient. I may be underestimating the influence of the California cost basis.


Wow! Much more than I expected. For some reason I thought this would go for $10,000.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby jimh » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:01 am

fredboatman wrote:For some reason I thought this would go for $10,000.


If you want a very fast sale, just offer that boat at that price and watch what happens. If the boat were available at that price within 300-miles of me I would be driving to close the deal now.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby biggiefl » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:07 pm

$18-20k....hahahahahhahahah!

Probably $8-12k depending on condition. 1986 trailer is not worth much.
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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby fredboatman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:45 pm

biggiefl wrote:$18-20k....hahahahahhahahah!

Probably $8-12k depending on condition. 1986 trailer is not worth much.


Ok, that's more in line with what I've seen. Thanks for bringing me back down to reality.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby jimh » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:28 pm

That $8,000 to $12,000 price might be true in Florida with some not-so-nice boat with too much sun and salt and lots of widows selling their dead husband's fishing boat for practically nothing.

Remember, in California a little house costs a million dollars, so people are used to paying more. Heck, gasoline is probably $4-a-gallon there. A very nice MONTAUK would be a giveaway at $12,000 and insane at $8,000.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby fredboatman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:34 pm

jimh wrote:That $8,000 to $12,000 price might be true in Florida with some not-so-nice boat with too much sun and salt and lots of widows selling their dead husband's fishing boat for practically nothing.

Remember, in California a little house costs a million dollars, so people are used to paying more. Heck, gasoline is probably $4-a-gallon there. A very nice MONTAUK would be a giveaway at $12,000 and insane at $8,000.


True! Gas is $4 a gallon here.

After more searching I think the ceiling is $14,000.

I did install new cabinets on the console. But everything else is original including the cushions which are faded so I wasn't sure how much those things would affect the value.

Thanks for the input!

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby biggiefl » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:49 pm

True Jim but the engine is 9yrs old and the trailer a 1986. Piece it together and $20k would be insane.
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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby fno » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:55 pm

Nick replied: "True Jim but the engine is 9yrs old and the trailer a 1986. Piece it together and $20k would be insane." There is more than enough "insane" to go around in California so maybe he would get more, but he'll be waiting by the phone for a while.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby jimh » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:01 pm

NICK--my E-TEC is even older, a 2010 made in July 2009. But it runs perfectly. I think it retains a considerable portion of its original value, and I am assuming a c.2011 E-TEC 90 with 280-hours is in great condition and is similarly valuable.

As in any classic Boston Whaler boat deal, much of the value is going to be determined by CONDITION. CONDITION is really hard to assess without seeing the boat in person. In the photographs--which were in the original article but seem to have gone--the boat looked very good.

There is also a scarcity factor. In southern California, I think classic MONTAUK 17 boats are probably relatively rare. For a buyer in southern California looking for a nice MONTAUK, this boat might save him thousand of dollars in shipping costs, a road trip or airplane trip to go see another boat somewhere in the midwest. This boat might not be competing with 25 other used MONTAUK boats for sale in the area.

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Re: Appraisal: 1986 Montauk with 2011 E-TEC 90

Postby El Rollo » Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:48 am

I live in California. There are a LOT of Whalers here for sale, especially classic MONTAUK boats. The problem is that most are hammered. Many of these boats were at one point in time, stored in saltwater, and thus have bottom paint, often multiple layers. Often the brass drain tubes are corroded and leaking water into the foam hull, and we all know how that goes. Also, many of these boats were stored without a cover on them, and the sun has just pounded them. Boats in this condition often sell for $5,000 to $8,000, with two-stroke carburetor outboard engines that rarely got flushed with fresh water.

Every once in a while you'll see a Montauk for sale that was garage kept and has no bottom paint. They usually have a late 1980's outboard, often a Yamaha 90. These usually sell fairly quickly for around $12,000 to 13,000 after an asking price of around $15,000.

in my opinion the number one thing to look for in a Montauk here in Southern California is one without bottom paint.

Keep in mind there are several harbors along our coast that have waterfront homes with docks in front of them. The classic 17 Montauk was a staple for these homeowners for years. But another concern is that these owners never purchased a trailer for most of their boats, due to having homes with very little parking and storage. They would hire a weekly bottom cleaning service, (a diver with scrub pads and tools to keep marine growth off the hull). They generally would haul out their Montauk boat once a year at a local shipyard for annual maintenance and a fresh coat of bottom paint.

There are still classic Montauk boats advertised on websites like craigslist listing the boat as having no trailer, with photos of the boat moored, or tied up dockside. I ALWAYS discourage my friends who may be looking for a Montauk from buying one in this condition.

One last thing to consider. With all the regulations, and the cost of doing business in Californa, trailers are ridiculously expensive to have made. I was quoted well over $5,000 for an aluminum trailer when i was restoring my 1988 15-foot Boston Whaler. I ended up sandblasting and powder coating my original trailer. Now after I launch the boat in saltwater, I immediately wash the trailer down with fresh water before I head out. Five years later and the trailer is virtually rust free.

If the boat is in really good shape, and you aren't in a rush to sell it, I would list the asking price on the higher side. This allows you some room to bargain down, but you can't bargain up. Good clean Montauk boats are very desirable here, it just may take some time to find the right buyer. Good luck

Here's an example:
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa ... 80167.html