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1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:22 pm
by peteinsf
Hi All,
Work continues on the Katmai NP Challenger.
Old Forum:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/021226.htmlSome in-line photos from lost links...
Starting place.
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:26 pm
by peteinsf
Continued...
Interlux2000 after grinding out cracks.
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Sitcky 1985 3m non-skid removal (tedious)
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:29 pm
by peteinsf
5 inch transom extension idea.
Old forum:
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/021240.html
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:38 pm
by peteinsf
Continued...
Motors arrive
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and get mounted.
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:46 pm
by peteinsf
Awlgrip and bottom paint next...
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:47 pm
by peteinsf
This week was priming all of the exposed areas where I removed the original paint around corroded areas. Also the aluminum deck was glued to the hull, screws set and then covered over...
Original Deck:
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:49 pm
by peteinsf
Deck glued down.
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:42 pm
by MerchantMariner
Hey looking great. Nice job. You are an inspiration!
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:15 am
by nes4pres
Looks real good. What is the shaft length of the Evinrude engines? Did you extend the transom?
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:29 am
by jimh
The details of the transom can be seen clearly in the several images above. The insert into the original notched transom that provides five-inches of higher splash well height does not appear to be attached to the original hull. It looks like it is held in place by the aluminum riser brackets holding the engine, and its thickness to much too small to be a structural support for engines of 500-lbs or more.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:31 am
by peteinsf
New tank arrives...
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:55 pm
by Acseatsri
The engines look like they're thru-bolted into 1/2" thick x 2 x 4 aluminum L-brackets, the bottom bolts going thru the original transom. I think the arrangement is strong enough as long as there are large enough backing plates on the inside of the transom. It roughly resembles a low setback jackplate in principle.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:05 pm
by peteinsf
Acseatsri,
It's a manufactured bracket good to 300hp.
See
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/021240.html
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:54 pm
by peteinsf
Rotten plywood removed from the tank deck cover...
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:34 pm
by peteinsf
Hi All,
After much delay the tank cover is finally repaired/improved. After days of cutting, sanding and grinding I turned over the thin fiberglass top to the boatyard to finish.
They used three sections of a glass/balsa sandwiched laminate and glassed it to the thin original decking.
My impressions are that it looks perfect, is much lighter, and much stiffer than the original. (I have not seen the bill yet)...
Hats off to the SF Boatworks for quality workmanship. Next step is to cover my new tank.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:04 pm
by jimh
I am enjoying the many comments and photographs of this renovation, and I am sure many other readers are, too. Keep the posts and pictures coming. I am looking forward to seeing the end results and the boat on the water.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:54 pm
by peteinsf
Thanks Jim,
Here are some other miscellaneous repairs:
For some reason CPD liked exposing foam on this rigging job. Maybe a deadline for shipping her to Alaska.
In any case two big holes for the fuel lines (using bent copper tubing), they ran in and then back out of the bait well. In addition, lots of holes for the tow bar mounting brackets (I did not get the actual bar).
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They also used white PVC pipe to line the big wire tunnel into the cabin (jagged sawzall cut, silicone calked). For that we installed a pre-made fiberglass tube and glassed it in (i'll add the pictures of that repair later)
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:57 pm
by peteinsf
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:58 pm
by peteinsf
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Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:31 am
by peteinsf
After forever She is launched!!!
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Initial "day-one" test: [4 blade Cyclone, 19 pitch]
70 Gallons on-board
Max Speed 54 WOT @5500
Happy Speed for SF Bay = 26mph @3050 RPM
Non-planing cruise 10mpg @ 1600
I have not done exhaustive testing (upwind/downwind, trim settings, etc) just a ferry ride from SF to Alameda. I did hunt down some choppy seas (between Treasure Is and Point Blunt) to find the most comfortable RPM.
These E-TEC engine just don't stop; set the RPM and they just plow along--I just love it.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:23 am
by Don SSDD
Beautiful boat, wonderful work, congratulations. Don
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:05 am
by frontier
AMAZING. Great job.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:00 pm
by jimh
Pete--very nice work and very nice of you to follow up with new pictures.
Re the E-TEC engines: my E-TEC runs like a diesel. You set the engine speed, and that is the engine speed. Steady engine RPM no matter what. I love that aspect, particularly when you have to run into some head seas. The engine speed is not hunting up and down.
Enjoy your new boat.
Re: 1985 Challenger 25 Makeover (continued)
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:48 am
by peteinsf
Thanks Jim...
I did have a question, can I retrofit my 2011 e-tecs with electronic shift/throttle?
Pete