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"Sweet Samantha" becoming an Outrage

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:26 pm
by JM72SS
Hello all,

This is my first post on here, but not my first time on the site. I've gotten lots of useful tips over the years working on my last boat (17' classic montauk). I finally cracked and made an account since my new project needs extensive work and I'm going to need some help. I may have gotten in over my head on this one.

Let me start off with this; I got this boat on a trade deal. I started with an old car and after several deals,I bartered my way up to this! The best whaler is a free whaler right? Well maybe not but I figured since I basically have no money in it then it would be a safe project for me. So here it goes.

The boat is a 1980 Revenge 22 BUT the cabin was pieced out, removed and halfway converted to a center console. I drove down to Alabama to get her, thinking I could re use the cuddy. After bringing it home and further inspection it is not feasible. Most of the wood support pieces are rotted and lots of cracks in the cuddy. So.. as the title implies, Sweet Samantha is going topless. My plan is to finish converting her to a center console, I know i know, some people will be mad about me not restoring back original but its just not possible without a ton of money and time. The way I reason it, Im saving her from the boneyard.

The good:
-Hull seems to be in good shape
-1998 Evinrude Oceanpro 175 runs great

The bad:
-Entire boat needs thorough cleaning
-Needs new bottom paint
-Two soft spots in Deck
-Gunwales are rotted
-Lots of unsealed screw holes
-Cuddy rivet holes
-Bow rail holes
-Center console holes
-Will have to make new deck lids
-Needs new center console
-Redo wiring

The plan: Create a decent looking center console with T-top boat. Doesn't have to be a showboat, it will mostly be used to scuba diving and spearfishing around Panama City Fl. My #1 priority is getting all of the holes sealed to prevent further water intrusion. Will be looking for new center console as well as this one is ugly as heck. I'm planning on making a for sale post for the Cuddy windows and parts, not sure what they are worth if anything. I will take pictures throughout and keep y'all updated on my progress. If anyone has any advice for me or knows of other posts I should read please let me know. Also, since I'm new to this forum and forums in general, if I am doing something I'm not supposed to, also please let me know. I won't take offense to it.

Here she is
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Re: "Sweet Samantha"

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:18 pm
by Phil T
That was Mike Brantley's boat back in the day. Bought in '04 and named after his daughter (I think). All the threads from his work are in the archives.

As for converting a Revenge to an Outrage, it has been done a dozen or so times that I recall.

Fiberglass versions of the locker covers are not available. Most use starboard cut to fit.

Keep the progress photos coming.

Re: "Sweet Samantha"

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:18 pm
by JM72SS
Thanks for the info Phil, I will have to do some digging and find out some history on her.

I was planning on using starboard to make all new hatches for the boat. Any idea where the cheapest place to buy is? Stuff is pretty expensive at West marine.

Re: KING StarBoard

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:05 am
by Jefecinco
About 24 years ago I bought a sheet of generic Starboard type material from a Mobile, AL plastics wholesaler. It was 3/4 inch approximately 4x8 feet. I used it to replace all the hatches on a 24 foot SeaRay. The large in-deck engine cover required reinforcement to prevent flexing. I just screwed 2x4 inch pressure treated lumber to the underside.

The sheet was expensive but probably only half the price of the real thing. It performed exactly as Starboard. I continue to use some remnants for the odd small project.

Re: Source for hatch material

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:51 pm
by JM72SS
Jefecinco wrote:...I bought a sheet of generic Starboard type material from a Mobile, AL plastics wholesaler...


Thanks for the info. I will see if that place is still around or if there is something similar closer to me. Would be worth a couple hour drive if I could save money.

Re: "Sweet Samantha" becoming an Outrage

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:25 am
by jimh
I am not a fan of REVENGE-to-OUTRAGE conversions. The problem of the missing molded fiberglass hatches has never been solved in a really good implementation.

There are many more original OUTRAGE hulls around than REVENGE hulls. If you wanted an open cockpit OUTRAGE boat, save yourself the misery of trying to make one from a cabin boat.

The glossy flat hatch covers from the REVENGE will be slippery when wet and not really up to be walked on.

Re: "Sweet Samantha" becoming an Outrage

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:41 am
by Mike Brantley
Oh my goodness.

Re: "Sweet Samantha" becoming an Outrage

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:14 am
by Phil T
Welcome back Mike.

I know.

Re: "Sweet Samantha" becoming an Outrage

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 12:46 pm
by Mike Brantley
Hi, Phil. I couldn't find my way back to my account so I made a new one. Sloppy of me -- sorry, Jimh!

Just ran across these 2018 pictures of my former boat, which seems to have changed hands multiple times and shed weight in the process since I sold it hastily when I moved from house to apartment in 2017. I wonder what has happened to it since.

Anyways, I'm still without a boat but maybe will be able to do something about that at some point in the future.