1993 OUTRAGE 21

[Brian G.]

Over the years and growing up in New Engliand, I have been on many 13-foot to 17-foot Boston Whaler boats, and I have owned many boats over the years--but never owned a Whaler. I may purchase a 1993 OUTRAGE 21 with a 2006 SUZUKI F150 outboard engine.

I can't seem to find out much about [the c.1993 Boston Whaler OUTRAGE 21]. There is a ton of info for the older and newer hulls but it's like the mid-90's don't exist! I tried using the search here but did not find much. Here are a few questions:

Is a 150-HP outboard too small for a 21?

What is the deadrise?

What kind of fuel economy could I expect?

What are some key things to look for?

What are the factory specification for a c.1993 Boston Whaler OUTRAGE 21?

Thanks--Brian

[jimh]

Try this resource:

http://web.archive.org/web/199702081750 ... ge.21.html

[jimh]

I believe that the c.1993 OUTRAGE 21 uses a hull mold that is very similar to the popular 21 WALKAROUND cabin boat. If that is true--I think it is--then I would hesitate to have only a 150-HP engine on the transom, and particularly hesitate to have only a 150-HP four-stroke-power-cycle outboard engine.

I did a lot of cruising with Steven and Caroline with their fine 21 WALKAROUND boat BACKLASH, which had a Yamaha 200-HP two-stroke-power-cycle outboard engine. Steve seemed to always think that more horsepower would have been welcome. That 21-foot hull has a rather deeper V-hull design than the classic Boston Whaler 22-foot OUTRAGE hull, and it seems like it wants more horsepower on the transom than just a rather plain 150-HP four-cycle outboard could provide.

You should confirm that the 1993 OUTRAGE 21 hull is very similar to the hull in the popular 21 WALKAROUND of that era--compare all the hull dimensions to get an answer. I think the 21-foot hull is a very nice hull design, with a deeper V-hull and finer entry than the earlier generation of Boston Whaler boats. I know that BACKLASH could always make way in any kind of sea conditions.

[jimh]

Here are the factory specifications for the 1993 Boston Whaler OUTRAGE 21 boat:

LOA = 20' 9"
Beam = 8' 6"
Draft = 14"
Boat Wt = 2,500-ls
Max Wt Cap = 3,755-lbs
Swamped Cap = 6,000-lbs
Person Cap = 11
Max HP = 300
Min HP = 150
Rec Shaft Len = 25"
Fuel Cap = 122-gallons

[msirof2001]

The hull of the Outrage 21 which JimH provided specs on was the same from 1993-1997 and maybe early 1998. I have a 1995. I am the original owner. Originally had a Yamaha 200 TXRT 2-stroke with a 19 pitch Yamaha Saltwater Series prop. I didn't have any kind of fuel management gauge so I wasn't able to calculate mileage/speed in various RPM bands. However, 4,000 RPM was 28-29 knots and with the thousands of hours, I was able to mentally figure out that I got about 2 miles per gallon. Not exactly the 150 engine you are talking about but at least this is one data point with the hull you're considering. I repowered 1.5 years ago. Below is an actual performance testrun that I did.

Yamaha F200 XB 4-CYL 4-Stroke, 489 Lbs. Reliance SDS Prop 17 pitch
The following are my performance stats. Each RPM and Speed was attained twice, and sustained at each level.

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RPM  SPD-KTS SPD-MPH  MPG-Statute
1000    4.0      4.6        5.5
1500    5.5      6.3        4.4
2000    6.7      7.7        3.5
2500    8.1      9.3        2.6
3000    9.2     10.6        2.2
3500   22.5     25.9        4.5
3800   24.0     27.6        4.7
4000   28.6     32.9        4.0
4500   30.0     34.5        3.5
5000   34.0     39.1        2.9
5500   38.0     43.7        2.4
5800   39.0     44.9        2.2

In my opinion, Whaler had a minimum 150-HP, recommended 200, and had a maximum of 300-HP for this 1993-1997 Outrage 21. I couldn't imagine 150. The 200 is fine but I wish on some days that I had gotten the Yamaha F300 XCA. But I think of the 5-digit price difference and feel better right away. I love the hull. Can't say enough about it. I would consider getting the boat, selling the engine and re-powering: one person's opinion for what it's worth. I'm happy after 21 years with that hull.

[JRP]

From that era, I generally prefer the holdover smirked hulls, but in my opinion the 21 Outrage or Walkaround hull was one of the best new designs Whaler offered. I like the size and fuel tankage. I agree that 150 HP may be on the low end of the spectrum for this boat, but you could get a better feel for how it behaves during sea-trial. And as mentioned, you could always re-power it.

[mkelly]

I have the 19' Outrage II with a 150 HP maximum rating and 1,900-lbs dry weight. While 150-HP is enough power, I wish Whaler (or the Coast Guard) would have realized this boat is much heavier than the older version' Outrage 18. The 21 is significantly wider and at least 600-lbs heavier than my 19. I don't believe you will be happy with its performance unless you absolutely don't care about acceleration and speed. My guess is you'd have to be running the engine around 4,200 to 4,400-RPM to maintain an average of 24-nautical-miles-per-hour.

By the way, I love that boat, and wish I had one with the new 250-HP or 300-HP outboards that are so beautifully being produced these days, either the E-TEC or Yamaha. If you're flush with money, I would scoop that boat up as it seems to rarely hit the market. Run it for awhile with the 150, then re-power with the E-TEC 250 or Yamaha F250.

[Brian G.]

I took a look at the boat and it was a mess!

The bow rail needs to be totally re-bedded (loose and stripped holes).

Bilge drain hole is missing the inside insert, and I could feel wet foam inside the hole. Is that area part of the main hull or is it just part of the transom? Could the hull be waterlogged because of this? I tried flexing the transom by pulling on the motor trimmed up (hard) and it had little flex 1/8-inch.

Swim platform is pulling out of the transom on one side above the water line.

Gelcoat chips all over the hull, and a 2"x2" layer (gellcoat) chipped off the keel at mid-ship.

Needs wiring work.

Outboard has broken skeg and trashed stainless prop.

Trailer needs leaf springs.

Misc things broken or not working.

I worry that the hull is waterlogged. The owner states that he gets 27-nautical-miles-per-hour at WOT 5,000-RPM. The tachometer not working so he is going off memory. It has a 15-pitch stainless propeller so something does not seem right. He is asking $13,000 but I think I could get it for $10,000. It would probably be best to forget about it but I can't get it out of my head! It must have been a hell of a boat in its day.

[msirof2001]

BRIAN G: If you go to YachtWorld, do a search for Boston Whaler, Length 21 to 21, Year 1993-1997, you'll see a 1996 that is in Texas. It has a 1997 Yamaha 225, T-Top and has Fishing Package #2 (Bait Tank, Lean post, Coaming bolsters rear, Tackle trays in console). There are a bunch of pictures and it looks nice at first glance. It is being offered for $15,000. I saw this the night of 11/03/2015. This is what I would expect the price to be for this boat. $13,000 for a boat with all of the problems you describe seems high. I'd probably recommend looking at this one or visit frequently as there seems to always be 1 - 5 of these 1993-1997 Outrage 21s for sale. As I mentioned earlier, I'm 20+ years with this boat and probably 4000+ hours. I really am happy and impressed with the boat. I would recommend keeping on looking.

[rtk]

I just sold my 1997 Outrage 21 that I owned since 2003. It was originally powered by a Mercury 225 and I re-powered with a Mercury 250. Based on my experience with this boat I would not put less than 200 horsepower on it. My recommendation would be 200 to 225-HP unless you feel the need to go over 50-MPH.

Run away from this boat; at $10,000 it sounds like a mess and it is not worth (financially) restoring . You can get one in good condition with adequate power for about $15,000 every day of the week, and they are easy to come by--at least in New Jersey, my area. Hull value in average or good condition is in the $5,000 to $7,000 range.

It's a great boat. Good luck with your search.

Rich

[jimh]

It sounds to me there is a strong consensus of opinion that 150-HP is insufficient for a 1993 Boston Whaler OUTRAGE 21.

[rzwhaler]

I own a 1994 21 Outrage, second owner since 1998. It is a wonderful boat with great range and versatility. Original engine was a 200 Ocean Pro and I re-powered with a 250 Yamaha Offshore. The boat does well offshore, as well as in the back waters. I routinely fish or cruise with my wife and two daughters, and this is the last boat we will buy. We love it.

[Hoosier]

I had a 1993 21 Walkaround with a Suzuki DF175 on it. That's the same hull but with the added weight of the cabin cap. I could run all day at 35-MPH and get over 3-MPG. Since this Outrage is lighter, the performance with the 150 should be acceptable. That's matter of taste. I've been accused of under powering my boats, but I rarely need or want to go over 30-MPH.