1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

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1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby jhpeterson3 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:44 pm

I have a 1991 Outrage 17.

What is controlled by the two control knobs at the helm?

I know one controls navigation lighting.

The combined sidelight lamp is not illuminating.

Which switch controls the combined sidelights lamp?

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby Phil T » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:14 pm

Do you have the original switches in the panels?

I think the OEM switches were 1) Nav lights 2) Accessory

Think you should pull the panel and trace the wires.

Check the light bulb in the combined sidelights lamp and then the socket.
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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby jhpeterson3 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:14 pm

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Fig. 1. The helm panel with switches on a 1991 OUTRAGE 17 boat with no legends or explanations for the functions.
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Thank you. I will try as noted and report back.

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby floater » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:36 am

The knobs are push-pull switches. On my 1998 Revenge the combined sidelight lamp is controlled by a three-position push-pull switch. [Deleted improbable or wrong description of switch operation—Moderator.]

I replaced three push-pull switches because the switchs failed.

Check fuses for the circuits.

If the fuses are good, [disassemble the lamps and check the light] bulbs [and the lamp socket contacts].

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby jimh » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:16 am

FLOATER—the sidelights are never shown alone. Your switch is probably wired wrong. For help in correcting the error in wiring, see the article cited below.

JHPETERSON3–an article in REFERENCE explains the correct wiring of a three position switch to control navigation lighting.

Study at

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/refere ... witch.html

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby biggiefl » Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:42 am

The first pull should be white all-round lamp. The second pull position is both lamps. One has to be white all-round lamp-only as it is illegal to be moored with running lights on as people will think you moving.
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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby jhpeterson3 » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:22 pm

Thank you all. [One] switch for both navigation lights. The load controlled by the [other] switch [is unknown]

Many thanks for the help

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby jimh » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:05 pm

Improper names for navigation lights throughout this thread have been corrected to proper names.

The light is what is shown to other boats.

A lamp or lantern produces the light.

Electrical power is connected to a lamp via fuse and a switch.

The lamp employs an incandescent lightbulb or in some instances a very special light-emitting diode or LED whose emitted light meets the specifications for navigation light color spectrum to produce the light.

For incandescent lightbulbs the emitted light is passed through a color filter to produce the proper color if other than white.

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby floater » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:24 pm

Good luck with your repair.

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Re: 1991 Outrage 17 Helm Switches

Postby jimh » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:29 pm

If the condition of the wiring behind the electrical panel matches the condition of the exterior of the electrical panel as seen above in Figure 1, the wiring and electrical devices like fuses and switches probably need some renovation. The badly weathered paint indicates the boat and this panel have seen a lot of weather and sunshine.

The lack of any identifying labels or legends to describe the function of the two switches is very unusual for a Boston Whaler boat. Typically on a Boston Whaler boat a switch will have an identifying label close to the switch, either in the form of a metal decal or sticker or an engraved plastic label. There are also two unknown small round devices that appear to the right of the pull switches, and these are also very unusual on an electrical control panel for a Boston Whaler boat.

The layout of the fuses, switches, and unknown devices is also rather uneven. It would be unusual for Boston Whaler to produce an electrical control panel with such an unusual layout.

In a c.1991 boat the factory would not have done the engine installation and rigging, so the 2-inch engine gauge seen in Figure 1 at the top of the panel was probably installed by the dealer who sold the boat with the engine rigged on the transom. The dealer or the owner may have installed the switches and fuses. The fuse holders do not look like the type I would expect to see for electrical devices that are exposed to the weather, that is, they do not look like they are water-proof or water-resistant type fuse holders. Again, that is not what I would expect on a Boston Whaler boat.