Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

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Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:03 pm

Hi there. I’m trying to trace wood backing plates for clear positions on my whaler refit [on a hull initially identified as a 1994 Outrage 22 but later possibly identified as a 1994 21 Outrage but having an appearance that does not match the Boston Whaler documentation].

The cleats were previously mounted on deck, and I have noticed that a lot of Boston Whaler boats have them mounted on the side under the gunwale.

[seeks] any information on [the location of cleats and the location of wood backing plates].

I have researched the usual websites, and all the drawings of my boat and been removed.

Regards

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Re: Outrage 22 1994 Wood Location for cleats

Postby Phil T » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:20 pm

Willie -

I presume you mean a 1994 Outrage 21 since there was only a Outrage 21 and Outrage 24 model that year.

Here is a photo from the catalog showing the stern of the Outrage 21. I see the cleats on the top of the cap. If there is no wood, you should add aluminum backing plates. They should be through bolted.

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Here is the top view showing all the cleat locations

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Re: Outrage 22 1994 Wood Location for cleats

Postby Willie B » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:24 pm

Thanks Phil T,

Yes it probably is a Outrage 21, however the gunwales look different to mine.

I have done a tap test. There seems to be structure around the bulkhead just forward of the transom.

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Re: Outrage 22 1994 Wood Location for cleats

Postby Willie B » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:34 pm

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby jimh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:28 pm

On classic Boston Whaler Outrage 22 notched transom boats in production in the 1980’s and into c.1992, the stern cleats are mounted to the inwhale, and a hawsepipe on the gunwale allows mooring lines to be lead to the cleats.

Distinguishing between a classic Outrage 22 boat and a c.1994 Outrage 21 ought to be able to be done based on more than just the location of the stern cleats.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Phil T » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:08 pm

W

If the boat is actually a 1994, I think,based on the splashwell design and the lifting eye, you may have a Guardian 22. It was a commercial/military version based on the Outrage 22 and was in production long after the recreational version ceased to be produced.
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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:23 pm

Ok thanks

So can the cleats be mounted on the side wall?

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby jimh » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:37 pm

Phil—good deduction.

In the images above a lifting eye seems to appear on the hull, forward from the stern cleat and just aft of the rail base. A lifting eye would be appropriate on a military-use hull.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:31 am

There were four lifting eyes added.
They were a retro fit as the boat was tender to a super yacht. (Talitha G)

I have the serial number and the boat was built in 93, but launched in 94.

I believe the super yacht ordered the boat from Whaler.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:35 am

Also the deck layout is different to the plans of the Outrage 21 deck plan above.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby jimh » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:53 am

The lifting eye looks like rather fancy stainless steel, appropriate for a yacht.

Show us a wider view of the hull to aid identification.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Phil T » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:38 pm

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:26 am

Hi there,

Any feed back on upwall cleat positions?

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby jimh » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:00 pm

That boat looks more like a classic Outrage V-20 hull, and not a 22-foot hull.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:24 am

Thanks Jim, can you send some photos of the V20 Outrage so I can try and match and identify cleat positions
Thanks

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby jimh » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:35 pm

I don’t have photos so I can’t“send photos.”

Read about the Outrage V-20 in the REFERENCE section:


http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/V20Outrage/

There are many pictures of the V-20.

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Re: Wood Location Diagram and Cleat Location

Postby Willie B » Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:49 am

Thanks Jimh, I don’t think it’s a V-20 as the hull is from 1994 and the V-20 is older.

I still haven’t managed to find the answer to my original question of cleat positions.