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jimh posted 02-16-2000 12:42 AM ET (US)   Click Here to See the Profile for jimh   Click Here to Email jimh  
Now that there is good documentation on the website for the 13,15,16-17 hulls, it seems logical to turn to the 18-foot hull as the next "project". So please search your archives and look for information on the 18-foot hulls.

Specifically:

What year were they first introduced?

What models were offered?

Is the 18-foot hull a case (like most of the other hulls) where the hull stayed relatively the same, but different interior or different liners were mated to it?

Information welcome!

--jim

bigz posted 02-17-2000 02:01 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for bigz  Click Here to Email bigz     
Jim,

I know I'll be corrected if I am wrong but these are the only "18" foot hulls I believe BW has built
Outrage 18 in the 80's
Dauntless 18 in the 90's
Rage 18 in the 90's
the Outrage being the new deep V hull developed with the Outrage 20 in 1978, the real classic hulls would be the 19 and 20 Revenge and Outrage prior to 1980 I think -- the deep V is a "classic" but that was the transitional hull for the bigger center consoles, cabins and cabin boats going into the '80's ---

If i am wrong appreciate for someone to fill me in --- thanks Thomas

Tom Byrum posted 02-18-2000 12:26 AM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Byrum  Click Here to Email Tom Byrum     
Well I just bought a new 19' 1989 outrage today so everyone start talking so I can learn something about my new moneypit! After all its all you guys writing about how great whalers are that got me in this position.
Clark Roberts posted 02-18-2000 05:58 AM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Clark Roberts  Click Here to Email Clark Roberts     
Tom, congratulations on you purchase of the 18'6" (19') Whaler... you now own, what in my never to be humble opinion, is one of the best hulls on earth!!! It's size belies its capabilities and it will continue to amaze you with its rough water handling and ride. It is one of Whaler's hulls that I have never owned.. but have logged many hours in the 18'6"!! Have fun and don't look back!!!! My bet is that few will disagree with the above! Happy Whalin'.. Clark
kingfish posted 02-19-2000 12:34 AM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for kingfish  Click Here to Email kingfish     
Congratulations, Tom-

You are going to love that boat! I had 2 Montauks and jumped to a 22' Outrage a little less than a year ago. I second everything Clark said - that is truly a classic hull.

Welcome aboard!

kingfish

Tom Byrum posted 02-19-2000 01:19 AM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Byrum  Click Here to Email Tom Byrum     
Thanks you guys. It has already amazed me during the test drive. We went under the Golden Gate with a big outgo and I couldnt believe how it handled. Ive been in rough water in my buddies Mantauk but the Outrage was in a whole nuther class. Totally unreal. Bring on the rough stuff!
Russ posted 02-19-2000 02:14 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ  Click Here to Email Russ     
Jim,
I have an 18.5' Outrage that was made in 1981. The year was questionable, so I emailed BW, providing the hull id#, asking for verification. I received a reply from Chuck Bennett of BW the next day stating that Boston Whaler started producing the 18' Outrage in May of 1981, and that mine was an '81, based on the hull number. Now I wonder if mine was the first one. Also, thanks bigz for letting me know about this forum!
Russ
jimh posted 02-19-2000 03:13 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for jimh  Click Here to Email jimh     
Now that I have been thinking about this for a few days, it seems like in the larger boats in the "Classic" category, there wasn't so much a distinction along hull-length lines, but more along model lines.

It looks (at first glance) like there were specific models, like "Outrage" or "Revenge" which were then produced in various size hulls from 18-28 feet.

So perhaps a better system of categorization would be along model lines, instead of by footage.

What's the response to that idea?

bigz posted 02-20-2000 10:23 AM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for bigz  Click Here to Email bigz     
A Capital Idea Jim,

Thomas

kingfish posted 02-20-2000 06:02 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for kingfish  Click Here to Email kingfish     
Jim,

That idea has my vote.

Organizing by the model type is how I've done it in MY head, but I'd like to hear some of the heavies like Clark and Larry weigh in-

kingfish

Tom Byrum posted 02-21-2000 09:51 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Byrum  Click Here to Email Tom Byrum     
Does anyone know where I can find a picture of a 18' or 19' Outrage with the bimini top installed. I am having a hard time trying to figure it out on my own. Thanks
Peter posted 02-22-2000 02:00 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter  Click Here to Email Peter     
Tom, I don't have a picture, but I can tell you how my Mills Suntop is installed on my 1987 18' Outrage. There are two sliding tracks which are probably about 1 to 1.5 feet long mounted to the gunnel just forward of the last stantion for the bow rail. The suntop mounts to the slider in the track. Eyes are provided just forward of the next stantion and aft near or behind the mid-ship cleat. If you are thinking of installing a bimini and haven't bought one yet, check out Mills Canvas in Greenport, NY. I think they have a web site. They made the canvas for Whaler during the golden years. I bought a suntop from them two years ago -- came with all stainless hardware, sunbrella material and an engineering drawing of the 18' showing where to drill the holes. It looks great because it was designed for the boat. In fact, I've had a number of inquiries from other boat owners asking where I got it. Good luck, hope this info helps.
Peter posted 02-22-2000 04:58 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter  Click Here to Email Peter     
Tom, one thing I forgot to mention is that the tracks allow the top to be slid forward for storage under the bow rails, and slid backwards to more or less center the top with the console when the top is up.
lhg posted 02-22-2000 09:27 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for lhg  Click Here to Email lhg     
Tom: Many have heard me say this before, but no matter what style of canvas you go with, go with Mills. They will sell & ship directly to you. Their stuff was specifically designed for, and in conjunction with, Boston Whaler, and it is the best, period! Considering your Marine West Coast climate out there, I'd seriously consider the Mills/Whaler Flying Top System, which includes Forward Shelter(makes a cabin in the front of the boat), Flying Top (bimini top) and connecting windshield, all with boots. This gives you true all weather protection and comfort. I have this on both my 18 & 25 Outrages, and I'll swear by it. You can also buy side curtains and a rear curtain to completely enclose the boat if you wish, and it all fits together perfectly, with full installation instructions. The Sun Top, which is not compatible with above, is also available and described by others above, but not really the best for cooler, or inclement weather situations. It is longer, in the bow-to-stern direction. If you want to start with something just for sun protection, I'd get the shorter Flying Top, and then you can add the other components as you see fit.
Tom Byrum posted 02-22-2000 10:46 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Byrum  Click Here to Email Tom Byrum     
Thanks again everyone. I thought I had a Bimini but now I'm not sure. It seems bigger than a Bimini. I did a search for Mills website but I couldnt find anything. I did find the address and phone number. I will call them tomorrow.

Wm. J. Mills & Company 74100 West Front Street
AWNINGS - BOAT CANVAS - CUSTOM CANVAS PRODUCTS. Superior craftsmanship and dedication to customer service have been family traditions for five generations at Wm. J. Mills & Co., where quality, professionalism and prompt delivery have been business as usual since 1880.
Greenport, NY 11944 Phone 516-477-1535 or 477-1500


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Tom Byrum posted 02-22-2000 11:04 PM ET (US)     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Byrum  Click Here to Email Tom Byrum     
Found it
http://www.millscanvas.com/what.html

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