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tbirdsey posted 06-17-2000 09:25 PM ET (US)   Profile for tbirdsey   Send Email to tbirdsey  
I just checked the order form from original owner for my 84 18 Outrage and I see it was ordered with a 144 qt igloo cooler. The cooler and cushion need to be replaced and I want to get the largest cooler that will fit. The 144 isn't made anymore but the dimensions of the igloo 94 qt seem to be pretty close to the old 144. It also appears that the 72 qt is today's standard for whaler, but dimensions are slightly smaller. Any suggestions?
lhg posted 06-19-2000 02:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Hi Tom: Almost all of the Outrages came with Igloo's cooler seats sized to be the same width as the console, which on an 18 Outrage meant an 86 qt cooler. But then Igloo redesigned their cooler line, offering either a 74 or a 96Qt version. For some reason, which I think was a mistake, Whaler dropped down to the 72qt size. The Outrage super console, available in the 20-25 outrages, always came with a 162qt (new design) cooler.
When I ordered my 25, with small console, I still ordered the 162Qt cooler, and it's the way to go. Lots of dry storage room, high, comfortable seating for two, and a great place to stretch out for a nap! (my console is raised 4", so it looks like it fits better) I liked it so well, I did the same thing in the 18, simply moving out the mahogany cooler cleats to accomodate the extra width. Buy the cooler from a catalog house, and order the Whaler cushion from Dave's.

Looking forward to seeing you (and your Whaler!) at the North Channel outing. Glad to see you can make it. It will be fun to do some boating together again after 28 years!

tbirdsey posted 06-20-2000 01:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for tbirdsey  Send Email to tbirdsey     
Larry: Thanks for the reply; that was helpful information. I think I'm going to go with the 94 qt model for two reasons. First, with several kids in the boat going back and forth I don't want any trippers or toe snubbers sticking out past the console. Second reason that previous owner mounted the antenna on the side of the console and when it is folded down for trailering, the cooler would be in they way. I don't like the antenna there but I've got too many other "little" projects going on the boat right now that need to be finished before
the 4th. The 94 qt is almost a perfect fit; I too wonder why BW would have dropped down to the 72 qt size. I am making new mahogany cleats; the originals don't fit the new cooler very well and had some dry rot. Are your cleats a two piece setup or did BW change that when the coolers changed. Mine consist of a 1/2" piece of mahogany approx 4" x14" that is screwed to the bottom of the "cleat" which is a piece of 5/4 mahagony cut to an irregular shape to fit the contour of the cooler, holes for the bungee cord, etc. The whole assembly is then screwed to the deck. I want to find a way to hold the cleat off the deck a little to keep water from collecting and being trapped uner it - maybe some nylon washers/spacers at each screw. Also looking forward to seeing you in August - how many boats are you bringing?
lhg posted 06-20-2000 02:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Tom: Since your boat is older than mine, and my cooler cleats are only one piece 6/4 mahogany, with the cooler sitting directly on the floor, it sounds like yours are not original, with the 1/2" bottom part being added. Actually, the change may be an improvement, as the 1/2" ledge would keep the cooler from abrading the floor, as has happened in both of my boats. In about '91, they switched to Starboard for these, and started making them in the two part configuration you describe. So your prior owner probably copied this improvement.

A good antenna position for any Outrage without a radar arch or tee top, is to use the SS ratchet lay-down type that clamp on the bow rail, on the first riser as the rail begins. I have the radio antenna on one side and the DGPS (or Loran) antenna on the other side. In this postion the cables snake cleanly into the side tunnels, through the gunwales, with little wire exposed. Otherwise, you have Mills canvas interference. If you look on page 12 of Cetecea, you can see this installation on Gibson's Outrage in the Bustard Island raft up picture.

tbirdsey posted 06-20-2000 10:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for tbirdsey  Send Email to tbirdsey     
Larry: Interestingly, the 1/2" piece I mentioned did not actually support the cooler. The second piece (in my case 5/4) was cut to fit a small ledge just under the cooler and held it clear of the 1/2" piece. Of course the new coolers are slightly different, but do still have a ledge there. I am making new cleats that will fit the new cooler and support it on this ledge - at the same time holding it clear of the deck. I thought the purpose of the 1/2" piece was to help encase the knotted ends of the bungee cord and keep them off the deck and any water. Seems like a lot of trouble to seal up the knots, but mine were definitely not supporting the cooler. I'm still debating if I will use them because I think they will be heavy maintenance.
lhg posted 06-20-2000 11:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Tom: It now sounds like yours are not original. Probably re-done after the original ones went bad. I have found that with good varnish work, about 6 coats, the 6/4 original style ones last about 6 years or so. I got rid of the bungee cords, as I found they weren't necessary.

Still consider switching to the black starboard ones that you can get from Whaler.
I believe the base of the 72 & 96 qt Igloos are the same dimension, and will work for you. I think Jim has posted a picture of Louie's front cooler detail. They're still using these cooler cleats in the new Outrages. My guess is that a pair costs about $40.

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