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Lil Whaler Lover posted 08-09-2000 08:45 AM ET (US)   Profile for Lil Whaler Lover   Send Email to Lil Whaler Lover  
Gee whiz, new guy and 2 posts in one day!

I have collected Boston Whaler literature for many years and have a fairly extensive collection that I would like to make available for reference to interested folks. I would also like to gradually complete the set by getting the years that I am missing.

My collection starts with the original black and white catalogue from 1958, along with the time magazine picture labeled "a man in a pickle unthinkable, is not only safe but unsinkable." I got those when I was 12 uears old and have kept them ever since.

I have catalogues for the following years: 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1973,1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991 (short form only), and 1992 to 2000. I also have detailed price lists for most every year from 1973 to 1989. I have a few brochures on Frontiers, commercial lines, and options and accessories.

I would love to complete the set so that I could be used as a resource for all Whaler Lovers. To do that I need to locate brochures for 1967, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1982, 1985, 1986, and a full 1991. Any help or ideas out there????

I hope to be able to contribute to this forum on a regular basis.

tbirdsey posted 08-09-2000 12:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for tbirdsey  Send Email to tbirdsey     
That sounds like a great collection; one of my big regrets is that I did not collect these catalogues over the years. Sorry I can't help you out with missing years, but I love your thought of somehow making these accessible. I hope Jim H and others will support this idea. BTY, I am restoring a 1963 13' to go with my 84 Outrage. Good luck with yours and welcome aboard!!, Tom
lhg posted 08-10-2000 10:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I have your missing '70, '82, '86 & '91. But according to Jim H, they don't scan very well without specialized equipment. What about Whaler's copyrights? Is there a lawyer among us?
Lil Whaler Lover posted 08-11-2000 09:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for Lil Whaler Lover  Send Email to Lil Whaler Lover     
Ineresting question and a valid concern about possible copyright infringement. I have reviewed all of my Whaler literature and they started copyrighting the brochures with information about the 1991 models and also state that "all rights are reserved". Prior to that time there is no reference to copyright or anything else. I guess the same managers that gave us our Classic Whalers had the foresight to see potential value to them in allowing the free exchange of brochures and information between Whaler owners.

I am not a lawyer, but it is my belief that we can freely exchange any data 1990 or older with no fear of interference. Frankly I would guess that only the current management might object to use of any of their information and then only because we are constantly telling the world how inferior their new products are when compared to the Classics.

bigz posted 08-11-2000 10:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
I would caution you on reproduction and distribution of any Whaler literature with out express written consent --- if you want to trade and sell the brochures there is no problem --- reproduction for distribution is another kettle of fish ---
Suggest you email Chuck Bennett at Whaler customer service to get this clarified -- just might not be a big deal yeah know if done up front -- Tom
andygere posted 08-15-2000 05:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
If it is legal to scan these documents and share them by posting on the web or e-mailing, I think the response would be very positive. I'd love to see the catalog for my '79 Montauk, as well as others that I'm interested in. I have a few from the early 90's, maybe even late 80's that I'd be happy to scan and share. A fairly decent scanner will provide a good quality image. By saving the images as a PDF document, they can be compact, and can be laid out as the originals were.
triblet posted 08-16-2000 10:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
I'll second what bigz said about not
reproducing without written consent.
Current copyright law holds that it is
copyrighted even if it doesn't say so.
I don't offhand remember when the new
law went into effect, or whether it
was retroactive to old document.

I'll bet that with a decent scanner they
would reproduce reasonably well. The trick
will be to get them into a format that
will look decent on the web without being
TOO huge.

Chuck Tribolet

andygere posted 08-16-2000 03:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Chuck,
I agree that written permission should be obtained before posting brochures on the net, and I would hope that BW would consent if the "non-commercial use" angle is presented. By rights, BW should post this info on their own website as a service to their very loyal customer base. I wrote BW and asked them for an options/accessory catalog for my '79 Montauk, and their response was "Your local Boston Whaler dealer should have microfiche, CD's and
parts manuals showing the available accessories for the Montauk". Not too convenient considering local dealer is >80 miles away. The PDF format would be ideal for posting because it's compact, and because when printed, exact size and scale is maintained, with high resolution possible using reasonably sized files. I've used this format to put documents on the web with good results. (For an example, go to http://www.sjwater.com/wq99.pdf) The Adobe Acrobat viewing software is available for free, and most browsers come with it pre-installed.

Andy

Lil Whaler Lover posted 08-16-2000 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lil Whaler Lover  Send Email to Lil Whaler Lover     
Well I started this thread and I reluctantly agree that we should contact Whaler and seek permission to share these old brochures. I am reasonably sure that someone who reads this will have a contact person at Whaler whom they could contact, or if given the information I would be glad to make the contact. I have always felt that contacting a real person rather than "to whom it may concern" facilitates a response.
bigz says to contact Chuck Bennett at Whaler. Does anyone else have an inside contact that should be considered?

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