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snowman posted 08-29-2000 04:38 PM ET (US)
I am thinking of purchasing a 17 Montauk 1989 with 89 90hp Merc..Also included is a 1997 galv. trailer. The boat seems to be in great condition and has been used very little but has been used always in salt water.Could anyone put a value on this boat.Thanks.
bboeri posted 08-29-2000 05:41 PM ET (US)
I have a 1988 Montauk with a 1988 Johnson 88 SPL. I bought it from the original owner 4 years ago. The wood was in pretty rough shape to the appearance, but I took it all off, sanded it, and revarnished it. It looks great. It cost me $7,000. Came with the original trailer which was in good shape but too short. I sold it for $400 and bought a new one. Great boats. Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
Landlocked posted 08-29-2000 09:22 PM ET (US)
Purchased a 78 with a 79 Johnson 85 a couple of months ago for 6,200. The guy was originally asking 7800 based on dealer recomendations. May have paid too much but I wouldn't give it back even if he gave me 7800.
Landlocked.
whalernut posted 08-29-2000 09:27 PM ET (US)
Landlocked, you didn`t pay to much at all. The new ones loaded with boat, motor, and trailer are running about $23,000. You got a great deal and am glad you are enjoying it. For what it`s worth I paid $4,750 for a 73` `16 Currituck with trailer and 75` 85h.p.Johnson. It is in very good condition. Good buy on you`re part. Regards-Jack Graner.
Barry posted 08-29-2000 09:34 PM ET (US)
Prices for 1985-1990 Montauks seem run anywhere from $7,000 to $14,000. I've seen several for $8,000 to $9,000 that I thought were good buys.
Obviously things like location and availability (there are more Whalers in certain parts of the country), condition, accessories, etc., all affect the value.
I bought a '74 with a '94 Merc 90 for $6,750.
Good luck,
Barry
chad posted 08-29-2000 10:01 PM ET (US)
Snowman,
I bought a 1986 Montauk w/ 90 Yamaha in good condition for 5k. I shopped a year looking at about 15 before finding this one. I put 700 in glass repair and 250 in the motor. Know what you want so when you find a good one you can act quickly. good luck!
TahoeChris posted 08-29-2000 11:53 PM ET (US)
1984 Montauk with '84 70 (elec, t/t) and 8 hp Johnsons, trailer, full canvas, downriggers, fishfinder, no salt, close to perfect cond., many extras. $8000 in 1998. Good luck, hope this helps.
Landlocked posted 08-30-2000 01:13 AM ET (US)
Hey, thanks for the input Jack, that makes the resident money manger much happier. (she wanted a new bass tracker deck boat)...
Snowman, I appologize in that I didn't look at your profile before getting to this screen so I don't know where you're from. So following advice may be for naught...
I'm a fisheries biologist, so I spend a lot of time on boats. It didn't take long at my first job to figure out what Boston whalers were and why everybody who knows anything about quality wants one. The first B.W. I worked on was a modified 72 outrage that looked like a crab boat.... crane, plywood cabin, and everything. The first time I got on it I knew I wanted one.... Stick with me I'm getting to the point....
About 7 years ago, the company I was working for layed me off and shut the doors... Some suit took one look at the whaler and offered it to my boss for 400.00. he bought it and subsequently sold it to me for 700. (that's how he got to be the boss) The boat was ugly but had an 85 Johnson 140 with a brand new powerhead.
I was in heaven, but even with the crab cab and crane removed, it didn't quite meet the executive officers criteria.
I then began looking and found the Montauk I have now.
Ok... here is the point.
The majority of people located more than 200 miles from big water have absolutely no idea what a B.W. is an what its worth. If you want to find a good deal, concentrate in the Southeast or midwest. There are plenty of owners wanting to sell who are outside the prime market areas. The guy I bought mine from knew what it would be worth in a coastal/greatlakes area but figured he would lose the difference by paying some broker commission and paying for shipping.
Keep an eye on Marine Source.com I saw an almost new Outrage on there located in Knoxville Tn. for like 14,500. You could probably have gotten it for 12.
Good Luck and thanks again Jack....
By the way, this "landlocked thing" is already getting old. The name is Chris.
Happy Whalin.
Jersey Jim posted 08-30-2000 08:11 AM ET (US)
Snowman
I've been looking for the same boat for
the last several months. I live near the ocean and the Cheseapeake Bay so whalers are
at a premium.I took a 7 hour trip this weekend to look at an '85 Montauk with a 90
Merc in "immaculate" condition. The trailer
was rusted out, the boat needed a lot of work,the wiring was jury-rigged,the wood was
equally bad. Asking price was $8,495. I did
not bid.
The members of this board are experts on finding a deal and very helpful. In this
area that boat is worth $8,500 to $9,500
if its clean and dosen't require any major work.
Jim
andygere posted 08-30-2000 03:36 PM ET (US)
I purchased a 79 Montauk with '79 85 hp & 15 hp Johnsons, full Mills Canvas ('89 vintgage, nice shape), Sunbrella mooring cover and a very clean Galv. trailer for $7,000 in Santa Cruz, CA. Asking price on the boat was $7500, located less than a mile from the Monterey Bay. Two days of scrubbing, teak refinishing and minor housekeeping was all it needed. This winter, I'll spend some time fixing minor gelcoat chips and scratches. Whalers, especially in good condition, are scarce in this area. The harbor is filled with Bayliners, Pro Lines and Scouts, but I notice they are first in line to haul out at the ramp when the weather gets snotty. By the way, my shopping approach was to value the boat, and consider older motors and trailers to be worth just a few hundred dollars. Nevertheless, I researched, compression tested and sea trialed the motors since I didn't want to spring for new power immediately.
whalernut posted 08-30-2000 03:44 PM ET (US)
You`re welcome Chris, and enjoy the hell out of you`re "Classic Whaler". Regards-Jack Graner.
snowman posted 08-30-2000 03:52 PM ET (US)
Thanks,To all that replied it was very helpfull. I'll keep you posted when I purchase it !

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Author	Topic: 17 Montauk (What is it worth)
snowman	posted 08-29-2000 04:38 PM ET (US) I am thinking of purchasing a 17 Montauk 1989 with 89 90hp Merc..Also included is a 1997 galv. trailer. The boat seems to be in great condition and has been used very little but has been used always in salt water.Could anyone put a value on this boat.Thanks.
bboeri	posted 08-29-2000 05:41 PM ET (US) I have a 1988 Montauk with a 1988 Johnson 88 SPL. I bought it from the original owner 4 years ago. The wood was in pretty rough shape to the appearance, but I took it all off, sanded it, and revarnished it. It looks great. It cost me $7,000. Came with the original trailer which was in good shape but too short. I sold it for $400 and bought a new one. Great boats. Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
Landlocked	posted 08-29-2000 09:22 PM ET (US) Purchased a 78 with a 79 Johnson 85 a couple of months ago for 6,200. The guy was originally asking 7800 based on dealer recomendations. May have paid too much but I wouldn't give it back even if he gave me 7800. Landlocked.
whalernut	posted 08-29-2000 09:27 PM ET (US) Landlocked, you didn`t pay to much at all. The new ones loaded with boat, motor, and trailer are running about $23,000. You got a great deal and am glad you are enjoying it. For what it`s worth I paid $4,750 for a 73` `16 Currituck with trailer and 75` 85h.p.Johnson. It is in very good condition. Good buy on you`re part. Regards-Jack Graner.
Barry	posted 08-29-2000 09:34 PM ET (US) Prices for 1985-1990 Montauks seem run anywhere from $7,000 to $14,000. I've seen several for $8,000 to $9,000 that I thought were good buys. Obviously things like location and availability (there are more Whalers in certain parts of the country), condition, accessories, etc., all affect the value. I bought a '74 with a '94 Merc 90 for $6,750. Good luck, Barry
chad	posted 08-29-2000 10:01 PM ET (US) Snowman, I bought a 1986 Montauk w/ 90 Yamaha in good condition for 5k. I shopped a year looking at about 15 before finding this one. I put 700 in glass repair and 250 in the motor. Know what you want so when you find a good one you can act quickly. good luck!
TahoeChris	posted 08-29-2000 11:53 PM ET (US) 1984 Montauk with '84 70 (elec, t/t) and 8 hp Johnsons, trailer, full canvas, downriggers, fishfinder, no salt, close to perfect cond., many extras. $8000 in 1998. Good luck, hope this helps.
Landlocked	posted 08-30-2000 01:13 AM ET (US) Hey, thanks for the input Jack, that makes the resident money manger much happier. (she wanted a new bass tracker deck boat)... Snowman, I appologize in that I didn't look at your profile before getting to this screen so I don't know where you're from. So following advice may be for naught... I'm a fisheries biologist, so I spend a lot of time on boats. It didn't take long at my first job to figure out what Boston whalers were and why everybody who knows anything about quality wants one. The first B.W. I worked on was a modified 72 outrage that looked like a crab boat.... crane, plywood cabin, and everything. The first time I got on it I knew I wanted one.... Stick with me I'm getting to the point.... About 7 years ago, the company I was working for layed me off and shut the doors... Some suit took one look at the whaler and offered it to my boss for 400.00. he bought it and subsequently sold it to me for 700. (that's how he got to be the boss) The boat was ugly but had an 85 Johnson 140 with a brand new powerhead. I was in heaven, but even with the crab cab and crane removed, it didn't quite meet the executive officers criteria. I then began looking and found the Montauk I have now. Ok... here is the point. The majority of people located more than 200 miles from big water have absolutely no idea what a B.W. is an what its worth. If you want to find a good deal, concentrate in the Southeast or midwest. There are plenty of owners wanting to sell who are outside the prime market areas. The guy I bought mine from knew what it would be worth in a coastal/greatlakes area but figured he would lose the difference by paying some broker commission and paying for shipping. Keep an eye on Marine Source.com I saw an almost new Outrage on there located in Knoxville Tn. for like 14,500. You could probably have gotten it for 12. Good Luck and thanks again Jack.... By the way, this "landlocked thing" is already getting old. The name is Chris. Happy Whalin.
Jersey Jim	posted 08-30-2000 08:11 AM ET (US) Snowman I've been looking for the same boat for the last several months. I live near the ocean and the Cheseapeake Bay so whalers are at a premium.I took a 7 hour trip this weekend to look at an '85 Montauk with a 90 Merc in "immaculate" condition. The trailer was rusted out, the boat needed a lot of work,the wiring was jury-rigged,the wood was equally bad. Asking price was $8,495. I did not bid. The members of this board are experts on finding a deal and very helpful. In this area that boat is worth $8,500 to $9,500 if its clean and dosen't require any major work. Jim
andygere	posted 08-30-2000 03:36 PM ET (US) I purchased a 79 Montauk with '79 85 hp & 15 hp Johnsons, full Mills Canvas ('89 vintgage, nice shape), Sunbrella mooring cover and a very clean Galv. trailer for $7,000 in Santa Cruz, CA. Asking price on the boat was $7500, located less than a mile from the Monterey Bay. Two days of scrubbing, teak refinishing and minor housekeeping was all it needed. This winter, I'll spend some time fixing minor gelcoat chips and scratches. Whalers, especially in good condition, are scarce in this area. The harbor is filled with Bayliners, Pro Lines and Scouts, but I notice they are first in line to haul out at the ramp when the weather gets snotty. By the way, my shopping approach was to value the boat, and consider older motors and trailers to be worth just a few hundred dollars. Nevertheless, I researched, compression tested and sea trialed the motors since I didn't want to spring for new power immediately.
whalernut	posted 08-30-2000 03:44 PM ET (US) You`re welcome Chris, and enjoy the hell out of you`re "Classic Whaler". Regards-Jack Graner.
snowman	posted 08-30-2000 03:52 PM ET (US) Thanks,To all that replied it was very helpfull. I'll keep you posted when I purchase it !