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Barstool posted 09-23-2000 10:54 PM ET (US)   Profile for Barstool   Send Email to Barstool  
I am in the market for a small Boston Whaler. I like the 1997 - 99? Dauntless 13 which is 13' 9". I found a new 1999 for around 13,500. The same place has a 2001 13' Sport which is 13'3" for $8,995.00. Both have 40hp Mercurys. I have also found used 97 and 98
Dauntless 13's for anywhere from $7,500 (Florida) to $15,000 in New England. The 13' Sport seems to keep the same beam
toward the front of the boat. The Dauntless 13 seems to get narrower and has a more rounded bow. According to the specks,
the Dauntless 13 is 6" longer, 1" wider, wieghs about 70lbs more and has a swampted cap. of about 100 lbs more than the
Sport 13.

Last year, the first year of the Sport, it was priced at $7,995 with a 30hp. This years has a 40hp and is about a grand more.
My question (and thanks for staying with me) is: Is the Sport 13 made more cheaply than the Dauntless 13? Why is there such
a big price difference in the two boats? Was Whaler making that much money on the Dauntless that they can sell the Sport for
$4,000 less. They had to have cut costs on the Sport somewhere!

Comments please.

Thanks,

Ben

jimh posted 09-24-2000 01:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
If the Dauntless is a 1999 model it is a 14-Dauntless. Thus, your question boils down to:
"Why the price difference between 13-Sport and 14-Dauntless?"

The answer is in the weights. Boats are really sold by the pound.

14-Dauntless = 1000 lbs (1999 catalogue)
13-Dauntless = 650 lbs (1998 catalogue)
13-Sport = 580 lbs (2000 catalogue)

The 14-Dauntless is 420 pounds heavier (72%) than the 13-Sport.

Compare the prices:
14-Dauntless = $13,500
13-Sport = $9,000

The 14-Dauntless is $ 4,500 more expensive (50%) than the 13-Sport.

It doesn't come out exactly right because you are also including the motor and trailer in these prices.

--jimh

Barstool posted 09-24-2000 12:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barstool  Send Email to Barstool     
The boat I was comparing was a 13 Dauntless. It had to be a 1998, but I thought he said it was 1999. You could tell it had been sitting on the lot for a long time.

The Dauntless 14 is dramatically different from the Dauntless 13. They also had several 14s but they start at $16,995.

Take a look at the Dauntless 13 at www.perga.gr/Boston/D13.html or at www.yachtingpartners.se/boaton_whaler/13_dauntless.html There is a better picture here but the stats are in another language.
See the Dauntless 14 at www.boatshow.com.POWER/BostonWhaler14Dauntless.html
I'm sure your are aware of the diffs, but it's easier when you see the pictures.

I still don't see the 4K price difference in the 13 Dauntless and the 13 Sport. The Dauntless is only 70 pounds heavier than the Sport.

Also, it would be nice to add the old Dauntless series to the history here. Let me know if I can help.

dgp posted 09-24-2000 02:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
The '98 Dauntless 13 is a center console model while the new Sport 13 is a side console model. The Dauntless 13 was available with many options that can drive the up the price. What options are on the boat you're considering? Don
Barstool posted 09-24-2000 05:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barstool  Send Email to Barstool     
Hi Don, I was pricing very similarly equiped boats. The only difference was the Sport had a '2001 40 Merc and the Dauntless had a 2000 40 Merc. (Both oil injected, etc.)

The Dauntless 13 is a differnt hull than the other 13's. I haven't found out how long they were built. Here's the stats:

Dauntless Sport

LOA 13'9" 13'3"
Beam 6'0" 5'11"
Draft 9" 7"
Weight 580 lbs 650 lbs
Swamped Cap: 1700 lbs 1600 lbs

dgp posted 09-24-2000 05:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Barstool, let's shift this discussion to the Neo Classic section of the forum or e-mail me directly. Don
tbyrne posted 09-25-2000 09:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for tbyrne    
Barstool, I have a 200 Sport 13 with a 25hp 4-stroke and am very happy with it. My understanding of the reason BW can sell it so cheaply is because there are no options except power - you can only get it with side console, bench seating, etc.

I suspect the 40 horse motor will really get it moving - the 25 works OK for me, but if I ever need to repower, I will look at a 40 hp 4-stroke. The 25 works for me because I use it for fishing, not skiing or tubing and I usually go out alone. If I was going to fill it with 3 or 4 people and ski gear, I would not be satisfied with the 25.

With that said, I much prefer it over my 1975 classic 13'4" - It rides much more smoothly due to the modified V hull and extra weight (580 vs. 360 lbs.), and it has more storage and a better floorplan. Most importantly, I can stand to drive, which lets me comfortably run it in a 1'-2' chop, which was not possible in my old 13 footer.

tbyrne posted 09-25-2000 09:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for tbyrne    
That's 2000, not 200 - I hope I live long enough to find out whether a Whaler lasts 1800 years!
Dick posted 09-25-2000 09:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The real reason for the lower price on the new 13 Sport is that it comes to the dealer pre-packaged (motor installed and on a trailer) Whaler has done this to get a more affordable boat on the market without sacrificing quality. More affordable boat = more Whaler owners.
Dick
Barstool posted 09-25-2000 11:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barstool  Send Email to Barstool     
I made a deal on a '97 Dauntless 13. One reason I picked it over a new Sport was the center console. I'm going to be using if for fishing about half the time a family fun the rest. For fishing the center console gives room to walk around, a place for rod holders (they are already on this boat) and more room on the console for electronics. This boat has a Garmin GPS mounted on top of the console. I'll post pictures and a review later. I hope I'm not posting it for sale. LOL. Thanks guys. Ben

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