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Sean Hoffmann posted 10-12-2000 01:04 AM ET (US)   Profile for Sean Hoffmann   Send Email to Sean Hoffmann  
Back in July, I bought a '92 13' Super Sport from my wife's uncle. Wanting to verify anything I could about the boat, I e-mailed the (a) serial number (TXZ68773B494) which is stamped onto a metal plate on the transom to the folks at BW.

Here' the response I received:
"According to the last 4 digits of the id number the boat was shipped out in Feb. of 1994 as a 1994 model. However, if it was a Boston Whaler the beginning of the Hull Identification number would start with BWC."

Based on this response, I'm having second thoughts about whether or not I truly own a BW. The boat is exactly the same as the schematic drawing of the 13' Super Sport in the 1992 BW Catalog. However, when I bought the boat, the previous owner noted that the boat is titled as "homemade" rather than with a manufacturer's name. This was done, he said, because the boat was refurbished in '92 (hence it's titled as a '92), here in Texas (which might explain the TX in the serial number). No BW decals were on the boat when I bought it.

Is there any way to confirm the make of my craft? Perhaps a second serial number somewhere that might point me in the right direction? Is it common for refurbished boats to receive new serial numbers? I'm fairly confident that the boat is in fact a BW. However, the verification of this will help me sleep better at night.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Sean Hoffmann

Clark Roberts posted 10-12-2000 07:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Sean, a BW dealer (or a Whaler owner/fan) could determine if a Whaler or not by sight! You may have a stolen/retitled boat..... good luck.. clark
triblet posted 10-12-2000 10:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
That's a Hull Identification Number (HIN).

'92 is late enough that the HIN should
be molded into the transom, probably
starboard side outside, and another
location. On a '98 Montauk, the other
location is inside the bow locker. But then
maybe it's a lot older than '92.

The USCG NavCen has a list of Manufacturer's
Identification Code (MIC), the first few
characters of the HIN, but it's down just
now. Try http://www.navcen.uscg.mil/gnab/search.htm

Chuck Tribolet

triblet posted 10-12-2000 12:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Turns out:

a. navcen's search facility doesn't work
with Netscape (which is more picky that
pages conform to the standard).

b. The MIC database moved to http://www.uscgboating.org/mf/mf_srchMIC.ASP
which does work from Netscape.

TXZ = Texas homemade boats, MIC for
state-issued HINs.

Boston Whaler, 100 Whaler Way, Edgewater FL
is BWC. Boston Whaler Multihul, Formulae
Racing Sailbt, P.O. Box 10184 Riviera Beach,
FL is FMS. They went in business 12/8/78,
out of business 03/10/83. Built sailboats, catamarans, trimarans. Anybody
got any further scoop on them?

There are 12 boat builders in Edgewater.

Chuck Tribolet

bp238 posted 01-08-2001 08:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for bp238  Send Email to bp238     
Sean,
The used boat market is more "buyer beware" than ever. Stolen boats or boats reported stolen for insurance fraud are becoming commonplace and if you are the guy holding the bag when the stolen boat is identified, you not only lose your money but face possible criminal charges for being in possesion of stolen property as well. Check out this link: http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm As you can see, the number on your boat is for a "homemade boat". Unless the builder was real good with fiberglass, I would speculate it IS a whaler and the hull numbers where removed for a reason, probably theft or fraud. Good thing about whalers is they have a hull serial number embedded in the gelcoat which is separate from the hull ID number. You would have to grind clear to the fiberglass to remove it, a step most thieves won't take. Find this number (probably painted over) and you can contact whaler and get the original Hull ID number. Call the state's boat titling department you're in and have them run the original Hull ID and bingo, it will probably be listed as stolen. If not, have your local law enforcement run it in the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) stolen boat database. Bad thing is, once you have brought this to light you will have to turn the boat over to the authorities. You may get a reward but it probably won't cover what you've spent on the boat. Bottom line is if the numbers don't look right, you better do some research before you hand over the cash.
jimh posted 01-08-2001 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Considering Sean bought the boat from his wife's uncle, I think we could be in for some interesting situations at family reunions if all these suspicions turn out to have something to them....

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