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stagalv posted 10-23-2000 11:20 AM ET (US)   Profile for stagalv   Send Email to stagalv  
There are photos of a 1969 16' Menemsha available to be seen on ebay. The reference section on the Classic Whaler site states that these boats were made between 1965 - 1972. I have never seen one before and I am sure many of you haven't either so I thought I would pass the word for others to check it out. It is definitively different than most 16/17's. Go to ebay home page and input "Boston Whaler" as the search topic. Rex
triblet posted 10-23-2000 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=474827145

Chuck Tribolet

stagalv posted 10-24-2000 11:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for stagalv  Send Email to stagalv     
Thanks for the link Chuck.
jimh posted 10-24-2000 10:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Funny coincidence about the Menemsha model: I have a few pictures I have been saving up for a Cetacea feature on this model. Look for them in a couple of weeks.

--jimh

mattr posted 10-25-2000 09:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for mattr  Send Email to mattr     
Wow. Um...I don't quite know what to make of it - in a strange way, it is not THAT bad looking...

One of the issues I have read about in past post regarding older 16 foot hulls is that they can be sort of a wet ride - this would solve that issue easily! So, from a practical side, it is a nice design. It provides a nice cuddy to store your stuff, but does anyone know if there are bunks in there? It would limit the fishability (is that a word?) a little, but for ocean use, add a hard top and you have a great open water boat.

But I would really have to get used to the looks...anyone out there want to design an add-on hard shell bow enclosure for newer montauks? Something removeable, but nice looking? I think something like that would be a popular item. (by the way, I want 50% of profits if anyone uses this idea! :)

lhg posted 10-25-2000 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The Mills Forwrd Shelter is the way to have a "convertible style" bow cabin for the Montauk. These have been available for the 16/17's since day one, and make a lot of sense. Think they cost about $600.
lhg posted 10-26-2000 01:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Regarding the Menemsha (named for a small hamlet on Martha's Vinyard - this is where they headquartered the recent JFK JR's plane crash recovery) I too thought it was one strange duck when I first saw it. But it seems to grow on you, especially if you've seen a nice one in person. In 1971, it was the most expensive 16 footer, at $3700.
The 1971 catalog has the following excerpts, probably written by Whaler's founder, Dick Fisher:

"The Menemsha is built on the 16'-7" BW hull with minor modification to permit installation of head and cabin shell. A fully lined monocoque cabin encloses two setee berths. The head is located under a fold-up section of the starboard berth. Privacy curtains close off the the cabin entrance when snapped in place. A folding table is hinged to the control console.

"A massive anodized aluminum windshield carries two opening panes and may be provided with a windshield wiper. The (Mills)(tan) canvas navy (flying) top erects to a height of 6'3" and together with side curtains and rear drop curtains makes a fully secure enclosure. (they show a picture with the canvas set - a very cool looking rig)

"The special stern rail is provided for passenger protection in an emergency tilt and is a most congenial addition for casual leaning or gripping. The waist rails are provided with handsome weather cloths, and all rails are stainless steel.

"The Menemsha gives the hardnosed outdoorsman a feeling of mastery over any possible water environment which is at least partially justified. And it gives his "better half" a sense of security, protection and comfort far greater than any previous Boston Whaler."

They sure packed a lot into this 16 footer. And to hear Fisher talk about it, you'd think it was a 27 Full Cabin! These Whaler people back then knew how to sell and describe a small boat! They sure weren't humble.

One in good, original condition and configuration today would have to be rare find, and true collectors item.

mattr posted 10-26-2000 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for mattr  Send Email to mattr     
Lhg -

Thanks for the details - Every day I learn more about whalers on this site. I had to look at the pictures on e-bay for several minutes, and you are right - it does grow on you...

I have seen the canvas forward shelters - they are nice, but what about a fiberglass fitting - something that can be removed, but is pretty heavy duty. I am just thinking it would hold up better over time. Maybe it is a dumb idea...I just get into things like that - sort of like Hoop's posts - he has come up with some pretty unique fittings for his whaler. Interesting and practical stuff!

65whaler posted 10-26-2000 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for 65whaler  Send Email to 65whaler     
Mattr, I onced owned a 69'Menemsha. I bought it back in 74 or 75. Wanted a 17' Whaler in the worst way but couldn't afford one until I came upon this. It came with a 100HP Electric shift Johnson. The boat was really neat, but real cramped for fishing. After a year the motor gave me alot of problems. Since I couldn't afford to repower at the time I let it sit. During that period I decided to remove the cabin & make an Open console boat out of it. The top was rivited to the inner hull. It required alot of chisiling and muscle but I finally got it off.I utilized the remaning Mahogney that was the helm area & made a side console & added a plexiglass windshield. The seat remained with some modifications as well as the fiberglass aft seat.I filled all the rivit holes with marine calk,& sanded smooth. In the fall I repowered with a new leftovr 70 HP Evinrude. Had many great seasons with it, until I sold it about 6 years later (to move up). I finally got a 65 Sakonett this spring, since I regretted the day I sold my converted Menemsha.
mattr posted 10-30-2000 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for mattr  Send Email to mattr     
65whaler -

interesting conversion project. I was wondering if anyone would find the cuddy-type cabin restrictive...thanks for your post!

I am hoping to see a Menemsha in person one of these days. I will be in the market for a montauk "hopefully" next season, but I enjoy learning about as many different models as possible - it is now a hobby of mine! Thanks to Jim again for this site!!

matt

mattr posted 11-02-2000 03:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for mattr  Send Email to mattr     
All -

here is a link to boattrader.com - this is a Menemsha for sale, no motor, for $7500. Thought I would pass this along for anyone else interested in seeing pictures of this rare model...

matt

mattr posted 11-02-2000 03:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for mattr  Send Email to mattr     
OOps - dumbass move on my part - here is the link...

http://www.boattraderonline.com/addetail.html?4794680

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