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compounder posted 10-23-2000 04:36 PM ET (US)   Profile for compounder   Send Email to compounder  
After finally thinking I had decided on the motor to re-power my Montauk, I went down to the dealership this morning with checkbook in hand to purchase or order one of the new 60 HP 4-stroke Mercurys. I was shocked when the owner told me he recently stopped selling Mercurys! He will technically remain a Mercury dealer because Boston Whaler is apparently forcing him to buy a certain number of "pre-packaged" rigs. He took me in the back of the shop and showed me 6 90 HP 4-strokes and 4 50 HP 4-strokes that had recently suffered catastrophic failures of one sort or another. Mercury is going to repair or replace them under warranty, but naturally the owners are upset. At any rate, no more Mercs available from my favorite dealer. He strongly suggests a two-stroke Yamaha 90, and that being my second choice anyway, is probably the way I will go. Anyone else have credible information on 4-stroke failures? I intend to nose around and try to find out the exact nature of these problems.
lhg posted 10-23-2000 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Do you trust this Dealer? The Yamaha and Mercury four strokes are the same engines, with Yamaha making the valve trains and Mercury providing the short blocks. I've heard the Mercury/Yamaha 50HP four strokes were very reliable engines. Don't know about the larger ones. Must be that Yamaha has had the same problems with theirs?

There have been a lot of problems in Whaler Dealerships that have had Yamaha contracts. Mercury/BW would like to see them gone, and Yamaha is fighting back, wanting nothing better than for people to see their engines on a Mercury owned company's boats! I would not think that it would be smart for a BW Dealer to quit Mercury in favor of the competition. He's probably also losing his Whaler Dealership in the near future. I think Whaler Dealers that do not agree take on Mercury, with Mercury trained mechanics to handle the service on all these new Mercury powered Whalers, are going to be history.

If you're going to be going conventional 2 cycle, take a look at the Merc 90 also. Real strong engine! Fastest of the 90's, will cost about $4800., bought right.

compounder posted 10-23-2000 06:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for compounder  Send Email to compounder     
Thanks for the input, lhg.
Yes, I trust the dealer. I bought my first Evinrude from him in 1971 and am still running the 'rude I bought from him in 1981 on my Montauk. Sales personnel and service technicians have been top-notch and I think unusual for the marine business. Only the folks at the Lexus dealership have done as well by me. He and I discussed the alleged Yamaha/Mercury manufacturing combo, and he has his doubts about them being identical. Looking under the hood of them both does reveal substantial differences. Are these Mercs supposedly manufactured by Yamaha (the powerheads, I mean)? The dealer tells me that problems with the Yamaha 4-strokes have been practically non-existent. I'll admit, I am thoroughly confused, and since the weather has cooled off, I may wait till spring. Relatively speaking, this is not a huge buying decision for me (monetarily speaking), but I really hate the thought of taking on service problems. Just the hassel of hauling down to the service department, losing scarce recreation time, etc.
Dick E posted 10-23-2000 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick E  Send Email to Dick E     
I have a 1998 90 hp 2 stroke Merc on my Montauk. I have over 200 hours on it and not one problem.
Performed reg PM maintenance. She runs sweet and like Larry says $4800 bucks is hard to beat.
If yout timing belt breaks your 4 stroke yam or Merc you will have a rebuild on your hands.
Tom L posted 10-23-2000 10:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom L  Send Email to Tom L     
Hey guys, Bass Pro in Atlanta (Duluth) had some new 98 year model merc 2 stroke 90s a few weeks ago. I suspect could be bought neighborhood of 4k. Tom L
bigz posted 10-24-2000 11:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz

Interesting article --- mostly common sense --- key point brought out is the Dealer ---- so if your comfortable with your dealer Compounder I'd take his advice ---

Another forum you might want to read a few posts is the numbers are 13,19 and 20 --

compounder posted 10-24-2000 08:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for compounder  Send Email to compounder     
Thanks for the links Bigz.

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