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ChrisK posted 10-26-2000 07:04 PM ET (US)   Profile for ChrisK   Send Email to ChrisK  
First of all, I have to say, this is a great informational site for someone looking to buy, sell or reminisce about Whaler's. I am in the market for a 19' Outrage and would like some opinions. I have looked at several Outrages (80's and 90's models) and notice a profound difference in them. It seems like the newer (1995 on) Outrages have more freeboard than older ones and that they have interior features that are different. I read the comparison posted earlier this year on this website,(Rendevous part 1 & 2) but I'm still a little confused.

I saw a 1994 Outrage 19' the other day that appeared to be a "Classic" Outrage (ie no extra features, cubby holes, or extra weight). Is it possible that Whaler made both an Classic Outrage and Outrage II in the same model year(1994)??

Please give me your opinions. Thanks.

Great site!!

lhg posted 10-26-2000 08:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Chris: The information Jim has in those Rendezvous articles, and elsewhere buried in previous Forum threads, is correct. So if you truly saw what looked like a "classic" interior 1994 Outrage 18/19, either the year was wrong, or you were looking at a specially ordered boat from the Commercial Products division. These were usually called a Guardian, but I think I did hear that due to continuing demand, the Commercial Products division did make a few of the earlier models on special order, and higher cost after 1991, officially it's last year. Actually, I think you can still get one if you want. These hulls are evidently much more costly to produce than the new designs, so the cost will be steep. The 1995 model you mention is a completely different animal. Currently, BW does not make an Outrage less than 21 feet, so a CPD 18 would be your only choice if buying new. Incidentally, from experience I can say this is one of Boston Whaler's all time great hulls, especially considering it's small size and light weight.
lhg posted 10-26-2000 08:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Mistake from above! The last year of the 19' Outrage II was 1995. The 1996 19' Outrage is the completely different animal!
ChrisK posted 10-26-2000 09:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for ChrisK  Send Email to ChrisK     
How do I tell the year of the hull. It is represented by the seller as a 1994 19' Outrage but does not have the high console, jump seats, or other features of the Outrage II. This is very important to me because I am purchasing the boat...tomorrow!

It looks brand new, has only 240 hrs on the hour meter (150 Johnson) and is very clean. The engine is a 1994. If it helps, it is a desert tan color (not stark white). It also has a black stripe with Outrage 19' on the outside. Boston Whaler is written in red. Your input will be greatly appreciated.

Please help!

Chris

dfmcintyre posted 10-26-2000 10:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Chris -

The last two digits on the hull idendtification number (HIN) plate, located on the outside transom wall will be the year of manufacture.

Don

Good luck!

lhg posted 10-26-2000 10:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Glad to hear you're getting an Outrage 19. You'll love it! By the way you describe it, I would bet anything that it's a 1990 or 1991. 1990 was the year they changed the size designation to 19'. Unless, of course, it's one of those specially ordered later models.
Additionally, if it has a Montauk Console, it's a 1990. If it has a taller console, and different rail configuration, like the one in John Flook's 22 Outrage shown on page 2 or 3 in Cetacea, it's a 1991.

When you find out, let us know.

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