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pocwhaler posted 11-03-2000 12:56 PM ET (US)   Profile for pocwhaler   Send Email to pocwhaler  
I have been talking to a man about an 18' Outrage ('82 or '83 hull) with twin '88 70hp Johnsons. The trailer is in good shape with a soft top, VHF radio, etc. From a picture I've seen the boat and trailer and in very good shape and looks very clean. Any help or suggestions? Price? Thanks.
maverick posted 11-03-2000 06:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for maverick  Send Email to maverick     
Mid 80s 18 Outrage w/twin '88 70hp Johnsons, good shape...WELL, nothing like inspecting a boat in person vs a picture, but going by your description, I'll take a stab at it (I've owned 5 Whalers, and now have an 85 18.6 w/ new power.) I'd guess the motors are probably a little salty, and if in JAM UP condition would bring $800-$1500 each here in South Carolina. One drawback is that the buyers will have to buy new controls since those are likely duals. Trailer - if galvanized and good, $450, maybe more or less depending on condition. The HULL - the good part: if in good shape, no external damage is a pre-requisite - ANY damage or repairs to hull would significantly reduce price. Look at the bottom - IF the trailer has/had rollers on it, there will be "dents" in the bottom - not good but not necessarily a show-stopper. IF bottom paint, look EXTRA CLOSELY! GOOD shiny, white original hull bottom is very good. Interior less significant, but overall good, I's give the hull a range value of $6500-$8000. Add for motors and trailer. Since you're BUYING, I'd take the LOWER range, if possible, but MANY Whaler owners (me, definitely) are HARD to deal with, especially when the rig is in Jam up shape. LOCATION has a little to do with it, too - Florida is more of a buyer's market than South, North Carolina, Georgia area. Good luck and let us know what you find. - Maverick
Tom Byrum posted 11-03-2000 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Byrum  Send Email to Tom Byrum     
Not sure where you are located but out here in the San Francisco Bay area you would have to pay $12000 to $15000 from your description. I have a 18' with twin 70 Yamahas. Wouldnt trade it for anything. Well almost anything.
JAC posted 11-08-2000 12:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for JAC  Send Email to JAC     
Tom, how does the dual motor set up compare to a large single ? I have been told the 18 Outrage is unbalanced with more than 500lbs on the transom. How does yours perform ?
lhg posted 11-08-2000 04:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
There's tons of information on the 18 Outrage here on this site. You just have to hunt around for it. Along with the 13 and the Montauk, it's one of the most talked about models here. Also see Page two in the Rendezvous section.
Tom Byrum posted 11-08-2000 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom Byrum  Send Email to Tom Byrum     
I can only compare it to a Montauk as I have never ridden in a Outrage with a single motor. I can tell you it tracks straighter and the back doesnt slide out as easy when you are surfing down big waves. I have swamped it a few times which I am sure the twins weight was a factor. Under weigh, the weight in the rear is not a factor. The times that I swamped it was when I was at a dead stop and fighting a fish with no concern other than landing the fish. The first couple of times it happened it scared me but now its not a concern as a swamped Outrage is no big worry at all. It doesnt seem to care if its swamped or not.
frank posted 11-09-2000 01:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for frank  Send Email to frank     
i'll throw my 2 cents in. i own an 87 18 outrage( guardian).it has a 1994 yamaha 150 outboard.it has been restored and it is in great shape. however every time i see one in cetacea i get humbled. the guys on this forum are hard core whalers. i've spent countless hours trying to make mine look perfect, but as the old saying goes - the grass is always greener. anyway i'm selling mine with a new galv. trailer and new electronics and many extras for 14,900 here in central mass. the price is firm. however. if the lucky buyer mentions he saw it posted on this site 14,500. bottom line.that is only because it is the off season i feel it could fetch 16000 in the spring around here . the demand is unreal. i'm not sure if it because they were made here originally and people know the quality or what ,but they go fast. i consider my boat much better than average. i know there are a few that put mine to shame.look them up in cetacea . they are the cream of the crop. i would expect to pay over 20,000 for a couple of them, but chances are they will not be for sale. i was very pleased to find that my whaler is worth more than a equivillant(size wise - i mean we know there is no equal for quality) bayliner trophy 1999 model. my advice is - first buy a whaler. second if you get one at a low price expect to put time and money into it. and third , if you're looking for a pristine example expect to pay for it. rember too that a whaler is an investment that if properly taken care of will hold its value or even appreciate, and if anyone has a 13-15 foot center console whaler for sale please send me an e-mail .although i love my outrage it is too big for my needs. good luck whaler hunting. >>frank

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