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matt posted 01-01-2001 08:36 PM ET (US)   Profile for matt   Send Email to matt  
Jim-i have a 15' whaler identical to the one you have.i am rebuilding my boat house from our last hurricane.bulkhead is back as well as the pier seems the boat house is last on the agenda.at present i am mooring our whaler.i'm having difficulty boarding the boat in 5' of water.I am now putting my hands on the gunnel,pulling and jumping up,putting my belly on the inside of the gunnel as not to fall back into the water.then I tuck and roll into the boat.this manever seems to give skin burns or cuts to my knees.I can't seem to put a swim platform on the boat.i have seen you next to your boat and we are similar in girth.short of a cherry picker do you have any suggestions.- cut up in alabama
jimh posted 01-02-2001 12:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
One nice warm day after we had our 15-Sport for a while, we took it over to a local inland lake and made some tests on a sand bar to see how easy/hard it was to get back in the boat from varying depths of water.

Our results were about the same as yours. Once you get into more than about 3-4 feet of water, the boat gets pretty hard to get back into!

We decided the thing to do was to get a swim ladder and keep it aboard. Then we searched for just the right swim ladder, but never really found one.

What seemed to make the most sense was the rope ladder with plastic tubular steps sold at West Marine and other supply houses. You could snap it on to one of the lifting rings--either at the bow or transom--and get back on the boat with ease.

The problem was we could never convince ourselves that we needed it so badly we'd part with the $40 they were asking for it. It seemed like a lot of money for some cheap rope and a few inches of PVC tubing. As I often do, I told Chris "I could make one for $5 myself."

Of course, I have not yet made one. Instead, I bought a 20-foot boat that came with a nice swim ladder accessory. We used it a couple of times up at Lake Charlevoix while anchored off the State Park's beautiful sand beach.

It was much easier to get back into the 20-footer than the 15-footer.

So I guess the short answer is: Buy or Make a rope swim ladder and remember to leave it in such a position that you can reach it from the water and pull it over the gunwales.

--jimh

P.S. Back about 15 years ago--I was in much better shape--I used to have an 18-foot day sailer on a mooring and I would swim out to it and haul myself aboard by the stern. The freeboard was pretty low at the transom, only about a foot, and I could spring myself out of the water and up on the transom deck of the sailboat. I don't know if I could do that on a daily basis these days....

stagalv posted 01-02-2001 02:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for stagalv  Send Email to stagalv     
I am a CoastGuard reservist and sometimes when we have to recover a concious person from the water we have to use a simple piece of line with a loop which sits about 1.5ft under the water for the person to use as one step. Everybody should remember this as a simple way to get someone back into the boat if you loose somebody overboard or whatever. If they are unconcious...that is a different story. Rex
matt posted 01-03-2001 12:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for matt  Send Email to matt     
jimh & stagalv I did not think of the rope,sometimes the obvious escapes me.but,jimh - the PS.on swimming to the sailboat sounded like you think i need to buy a richard simmons sweating to the oldies tape,to get into my boat.like you I may have to buy a bigger boat--------------cut up and overweight in alabama
triblet posted 01-03-2001 09:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
You can also step on the motor's anticav
plate.

I've tried those rope ladders -- you end up
with your feet under the boat somewhere
near the keel. They are better than
nothing, but not great.

My Montauk has the little BW swim platform.
I replaced BW's one-step ladder with a
three-step telescoping Windline. Admiral
Linda was VERY greatful.

Chuck Tribolet

Chuck Tribolet

sport15er posted 01-03-2001 03:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for sport15er  Send Email to sport15er     
I broke down and bought the rope/pvc ladder from West Marine last yr, and it's as Chuck said, it's better than nothing. I've found the best way to use it is to straddle the steps instead of 'walking up', otherwise you will swing under the boat.
ps Mine's a super sport 15
Clark Roberts posted 01-03-2001 05:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
I have a regular swim platform (boarding platform) on my 77 CC 15'. It takes about 2 days to custom fit and mount. All the ss tubing must be custom bent and fit and the plastic (starboard) platform must be cut to fit the wierd transom shape... I fashioned a side handrail which provides a good grip which is necessary... If you can find a surplus platform and ladder hardware, you must then make a cardboard pattern of the exact shape you want... then chop and channel the platform to that exact shape and hold in position with clamps and stilts and whatever... now the fun begins as you fashion the ss tubing supports etc to fit... not easy , mind you, but well worth the effort! Happy Whalin'... clark... spruce creek navy.. PS> Cetacea page 28 has picture of my 15 and you can see part of the swim platform and the curved hand hold....
Clark Roberts posted 01-03-2001 05:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Also on Cetacea page 28 last photo, shows a custom swim platform I built for an eleven footer... I fashioned a special side rail which extended aft to form a hand hold... this little rig was a traffic stopper, I tell you! I was stopped in traffic by a man who wanted it for a yatch tender.. he paid through the nose but got his money's worth!When I put my weight on the platform step the front of the little Whaler almost came out of the water... got to lose a little weight, heh, heh.. seriously though, it worked very well and made deep water entry a breeze.. Clark.. The Old Man and the Sea
matt posted 01-03-2001 11:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for matt  Send Email to matt     
Clark--WoW that is fine! I see the picture of the eleven footer with the platform,but .it seems you did the 15' diffrently than the 11 footer,from what little I can see....hint hint

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