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tyler posted 01-12-2001 06:47 AM ET (US)   Profile for tyler   Send Email to tyler  
I just purchased a 1985 newport 90hp evinrude in Charleston SC. This boat was found in the local paper. She was a bank repo. I got her for a steal. She cleaned up really well, and the motor check out. This is unlike any newport I've seen. This model is a center console. I can find no filled holes, or evidence of it ever being rigged as a side console. What really make this boat one of a kind is that she is wearing a T-top. I understand that most of you guys believe that this is too small of a boat to have a T-top, but boy is it nice. It provides a great sun shade, rod holder, and it looks incredible! Most of you are proberly wondering about room, and mounting. The T-top really doesn't get in the way while fishing, and this top is so sturdy that (I don't recommend) I can hang from it (165lbs). One great feature is in rough water it provides a great oh%$@# handle .Finally, does any one know anything about this particular boat, and can anyone suggest any great fishing spots in Charleston. I hope to beable to send in some pic's soon. You guys won't believe how good she looks until you see her Bundle up, and whalers forward.
bigz posted 01-12-2001 07:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Tyler sounds like a great set up --- in '85 Whaler had a "workboat/bassboat" option which was factory installed this might account for the center console instead of the typical side mount --- just a guess

Welcome to the forum Tom

tyler posted 01-12-2001 08:00 AM ET (US)     Profile for tyler  Send Email to tyler     
As far as I can tell everything else on the boat is set up as a newport. (side rails, forward seating area, etc.) Do you have any info regarding where to find a red rub rail. I know that these are hard to find, Whaler used them for a short time during a few years. It sure would look nice to have a new one. Thanks
Clark Roberts posted 01-12-2001 08:48 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Tyler, the Newport could be ordered with a Montauk console.. this may be a special order boat.. I have seen several .. Clark
SWarren posted 01-12-2001 09:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for SWarren  Send Email to SWarren     
Tyler
I live in MT Pleas SC. It is over the bridge from Chas. There is great fishing in Bulls Bay, the ICW off of Sullivans Island, Isle of Palms. If you go off the jetties you can do some great bottom fishing on the near shore reefs. Capers, Chas near shore or just fish the jetties. The cooper river bridges are a great place for sheep head, as is the yorktown. You can go up the wando for spot tail and trout. I wish I saw the newport, I would have bought it. Where did you buy it from?
tyler posted 01-12-2001 09:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for tyler  Send Email to tyler     
I think that is proberly what I have. It sure is set up nice for fishing/crusing. The only complaint that I have is that the steering is a bit tight (port side), and where to put the bildge pipe. Any suggestions to help resolve.
tyler posted 01-12-2001 09:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for tyler  Send Email to tyler     
swarren The newport was purchased from the Whaler dealer at 526 and Rhett (?) But as I said it was a repo, the bank just wanted to get it off of their hands (lucky me). I am on Isle of Palms Blvd. It's nice because we have a dock out to the creek. At this time she is put up, but for most of the summer she's hanging from davits off the dock. The back water/intra coastal waters is where we spend most of our time. The ocean is a pick your day kind of place. Being in a 17' really makes me think before we head out. What size boat are you guys fishing from? I am very familar with all of the locations that you mentioned. I have had some luck on the back side of the south jetties, and at a couple of artificial reefs in front of Sullivans. A few months ago we were into some large reds right off the dock. (shrimp) What type of bait are you having the most luck with.
bigz posted 01-12-2001 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Steve and Tyler, well small world -- we did an overnighter at the Isle of Palms Marina this past Spring on our way up the ICW -- since the 27 cc cuddy accommodations are somewhat spartan one of the dock boys drove us into a Hampton Inn -- not sure where we were thought, went over a long bridge which seemed new, and it had a shopping center in back of it, so we were able to do a little provision shopping and a sort of neat/funky restaurant I think called Buffalos that was good at one end of the Plaza for dinner. Nice area I must say --- to bad we couldn't have stayed longer -- Tom
dann2015 posted 01-12-2001 10:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for dann2015  Send Email to dann2015     
tyler,
i have basically the same boat as you do and love it. i am in the charleston area also and i remember seeing a 17' newport cc w/ a t-top at the boat ramp before - probably your boat. i have tried to find out some info about the boat ever since i bought it b/c newport ccs are rare. mine was rigged by the outboard shop and the salesman there told me that the boat was ordered from the factory w/ no console and they rigged it w/ a montauk cc themselves. they said they only rigged 3 boats like that, which isn't a lot considering newports were in production for about 10 yrs (i think, but i'm not sure). they rigged my boat w/ a whaler leaning post and said it was the only one they rigged that way. to my knowledge it was the only one rigged that way. i don't have a t-top but think it would get in the way b/c i do a lot of fishing. overall, i like the boat a lot better than the montauks b/c of the lack of rails and the wide gunwale caps. i have 4 lees rod holders in the gunwales like you would see on a bigger boat that i use for trolling. the little platform up front is another advantage of the newport over the montauk b/c it's easy to hop up there to throw the castnet or flyrod. plus the lack of rails makes it easy to toss a heavy castnet for menhaden or gaff a fish from the bow. the only problem i've had is that the gunwale cap on my boat has begun to come loose and crack in a few places. still trying to figure out a good way to fix that. part of that is my fault b/c i run the boat offshore pretty hard and really pound it to death. also i stick a downrigger in one of the rod holders every once in a while and that is really a little bit too much pressure for those thin gunwale caps and the screws they're mounted in with. i use the boat primarily for fishing - offshore and inshore - have been up to 27 miles offshore and the boat is a fish catching machine. i think it's kind of ironic how the newport was marketed as more of a family/ski boat but in my opinion makes a much better fishing boat than the montauk. my boat is a 1988 rigged w/ a 1999 yamaha c90 and a 2000 fastload aluminum trailer. would like to get in touch and check out your boat sometime. good luck w/ it and be prepared to get a lot of compliments and stares at the boat ramp.

dan

tyler posted 01-12-2001 11:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for tyler  Send Email to tyler     
Dan Sounds like you got one heck of a boat. Being new to fishing in salt water any advise, tactics, or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I think that the leaning post is a great idea. I was offered one at one time, but decided to stick with the original seat. Right now the boat is on a Trailer on Sullivans Island in friends back yard. When the weather gets warmer I'm sure we'll see each other. The t-top has a red canvas top, it's kind of hard to miss.
SWarren posted 01-12-2001 04:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for SWarren  Send Email to SWarren     
Tyler,
I have a montauk and a 22 revenge wt.
I typically use live shrimp or mud minnows.
Big Z I live about a 7 iron from the Hampton inn where you stayed. There is some great boating on the ICW around Charleston. I bet you had a great time. Look me up if you make the trip again, I wil
give you some great dockside resturants to eat at.
Sam Collins posted 01-12-2001 05:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sam Collins  Send Email to Sam Collins     
Check out Repairs/Mods post dated 1-7-01 (New rub rail for my 87 Outrage 22) for info on your rub rail.
lhg posted 01-12-2001 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I think the Barbour people have indicated the red rubrail insert used on these Newport models, and the 78-79 V Outrages, are no longer available. You may have to switch to the black.
Steve Leone posted 01-12-2001 08:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve Leone  Send Email to Steve Leone     
Hello Tyler!!! You can purchase a whole new rotary steering kit for about $137.00. They are straightfoward to install. The kit comes from Morse or Teleflex. It includes the steering head, the cable, a bezel and all of the necessary hardware. You can also purchase a 20% bezel for "tilted" applications. It does not include a new steering wheel though. If you can remove your old one with out damaging it (two big screwdrivers opposite each other) and if it has a 3/4 in. shaft you can reuse it.
Steve Leone posted 01-12-2001 09:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve Leone  Send Email to Steve Leone     
Hello again Tyler!!! Morse also makes a no-feedback rotary. That means if you let go of the wheel for a sec it stays where it is rather than sliding back to center. I have been unable to find a 20% bezel for these though. Try mounting the bilge hose right over the outboard well wall. You can secure it with a marine hangar. If you drill a hole fill it with 5200. An auto switch can be tie-strapped to the top of most Rule pumps. Use three tie straps. The first all the way around from top to bottom. Make sure the strap goes under the float part. You may have to join two tie-straps together for this first one. Then put two tie-straps around the pump (over the first), one upper and one lower. If you`ve managed to get the first in the right grooves on the bottom it will stay and not rotate from side to side. The wiring is very straightfoward. Just follow the directions on the auto switch. This is the most sucessful way to add an auto sitch on a Whaler with a small bilge area. Good Luck, Steve in El Cerrito
whalernut posted 01-12-2001 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I put a 500 gph automatic bilge pump on my 73` `16 Currituck and put the bilge pump hode over the back of the transom next to the motor. Works great, but make sure that you position that when you turn the steering wheel that you`re engine steering linkage doesn`t hit the hose or clamp which sits on the top of the motor well. I used 100% silicone caulking for the clamps and bilge pump. I did screw the bilge pump into the bilge well(the inside small well)but very lightly, so you don`t crack the gelcoat, make sure to silicone the screws very well! Also make sure to keep the bilge pump far enough from the bilge plug so you can take it in and out o.k. Also, I put an inline fuse on it, and a quick disconnect, very easy job. Regards-Jack Graner.
Dick posted 01-12-2001 09:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
Teleflex offers a 20 degree bezel for all of their systems. Since Teleflex purchased Morse last month, we don't know yet what will be still offered under the Morse name. You can't go wrong with either one.
The no feedback is a few bucks more but, in my opinion, well worth it.
Dick
Steve Leone posted 01-13-2001 01:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Steve Leone  Send Email to Steve Leone     
I hav`nt had much luck with silicone on boats period. It has a tendency to separate and "peel". Life caulk or Sikaflex are my first choices. They adhere so much better and seal excellent. They never dry too hard and the 5200 is amazingly strong. Very good for structural and a needed overkill on just about every application on a boat. Especially making screws stay where they are put. I`ve even glued bilge pumps to the floor using just a small blob of this stuff and there still there years later! The only drawback to 5200 is that it takes so long to cure. Recomended 7 days on the tube but tack free in a couple of days. If you have the patience its the best folks, Steve in El Cerrito.
whalernut posted 01-13-2001 06:47 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Thanks Steve for the info. I only heard of the 5200 and the 4200 after my brother and I did the bilge pump. Most on the site are recommending the 4200 over the 5200 due to they say the 5200 damages the gelcoat and fiberglass of you try to remove the item you caulked with 5200? Can you explain the general differences between the 2? Regards-Jack Graner.
Dick posted 01-13-2001 09:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The 4200 does not set up as strong and permanent as the 5200. If there is a chance that you may have to remove something later use the 4200. Both are available in a fast cure formula as well.
Dick
whalernut posted 01-13-2001 09:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Thank you very much Dick, I will look into this product and use it! Regards-Jack Graner.
whalernut posted 01-13-2001 09:55 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I forgot to ask which one(4200 or 5200) is best for a new brass drain tube for Currituck? Also any tips on the removal of the old drain tube and instalation of a new drain tube, looks very difficult! Regards-Jack Graner. P.S. Would it be better to have a marine tech install this item, as I am not that technical?
Dick posted 01-13-2001 10:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
The old brass drain tubes are still available and are a little tricky to install. The new ones are PVC and no problem to put in. I would use 4200.
Dick
whalernut posted 01-13-2001 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Cool! Thanks Dick-Jack.
jimh posted 01-13-2001 03:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
For some comments on 5200 adhesive, see:

http://continuouswave.com/maintenance-logs/newDS/

--jimh

scottfarm posted 01-13-2001 04:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for scottfarm  Send Email to scottfarm     
Tyler, I wish you had a digital camara to take a picture of your t-top so we could look at it. I was thinking of making one for my montauk. How wide and how long is it. Dennis
bigz posted 01-13-2001 04:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Jim was that a plastic transducer casing? I didn't follow what it was originally made out of -- if so no wonder problems --- a bronze encased transducer is the only way to go for through hull mounting.
Recommended bottom paint for transducers is MCR transducer antifouling paint for the face of plastic ones --- whether fresh or salt, thru or transom mount --- you can coat the whole unit with it including the bracket of a transom mount --- great stuff --

5200 is a scourge --- if you want something permanent epoxy it --- Tom

PS was she your boat or the club's boat you mentioned --- she certainly looked pretty nice --- how did she handle

jimh posted 01-13-2001 05:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Re: VOYAGER III -- she belonged to our sail club.
She was a very nice cruising sailboat, not at all a racer.
Made by the same folks that produce TIARA YACHTS and
PURSUIT. More info about her is in the hyper-links in the depthsounder article...which is how we came to this point in the discussion!

--jimh

hardensheetmetal posted 01-13-2001 05:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Tyler- your boat sounds pretty cool looking, I would also like to see how it looks. I am curious though, is the center console a standard (Montauk style) console, I had a 17 Newport about 5 years ago (great boat)and I seem to remember the console was one sided, with the other side mounted to the inner gun'l. I was trying to figure out how this could be made into a center console. Good luck with it!
whalernut posted 01-13-2001 11:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
I looked at an 83` Newport about a year ago and it had the Standard Montauk center console, I didn`t buy it(Rough condition) but Boston Whaler told me it was an option for this boat, and this boat was shipped out with this option, so they did offer the Montauk center console as an option. Regards-Jack Graner.
tyler posted 01-15-2001 07:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for tyler  Send Email to tyler     
I'm in the process of getting myself a digital camera. As soon as I find the right one I'll have pic's of the boat posted. (newport c/c. with t-top.) Steve, I'll also get some dim. for you.

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