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ledfoot posted 01-12-2001 12:16 PM ET (US)   Profile for ledfoot   Send Email to ledfoot  
I know of a 1985 Outrage for sale-80% fresh water usage, low hrs on 1997 Johnson 175, good condition overall. Does $13,000 sound reasonable? What are some things to be aware of when buying an '85 whaler? How is the ride on the 20 footer? Is it enough boat for the Great Lakes? Thanks...
dburton posted 01-12-2001 01:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for dburton  Send Email to dburton     
If the boat & motor is indeed in the shape that you think that it is then $13,000 is well in the range of a good price. This is especially true of with a newer engine. A 20 foot outrage is a perfect boat for the great lakes. Not only will go every where you want, but it will get you back again. The classic Outrage with it's deep V has an excellent dry ride.
hauptjm posted 01-12-2001 01:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
On the surface, it sounds like a great price. This is a great hull design. If the mechanical systems are sound and the hull dry and tight, you may have a bargain. These boats are near indestructible with just a modicum of care. Check the transom for soundness, and the hull for general repair. I assume all systems are in place (i.e., Steering, controls, wirings, etc.) and intact and good working order! If so, go for it. You'll love every minute. This boat will outperform anything in its class.
ledfoot posted 01-16-2001 09:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for ledfoot  Send Email to ledfoot     
Thanks for the response! I haven't seen the boat yet, but I have a better idea of what to look for... Was there a change in beam/hull design on the 20' during the mid-eighties? Is 85 a good year for this boat?
hauptjm posted 01-23-2001 10:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for hauptjm    
No changes as far as I know. This is the hull design ever produced by Whaler. '85 on, in this style of Whaler (pre '90s) is a true classic. Again, be sure the hull is intact. If you are not comfortable inspecting it, bring to someone you trust. Fortunately, a Whaler can be inspected quite quickly; it's hiding nothing in the form of lockers, bulkheads, etc. Everything is right there in the open. Remember, the transom is usually where a problem could be present. There are ways to use moisture meters without drilling holes that can help detect a wet transom; usually through existing holes in the transom (i.e., through fittings, fishfinders, etc.). It's not perfect, but it helps.
lhg posted 01-23-2001 01:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
If the 20 is in good shape, that's a great price. 1985 was it's first year as a shortened 22. There is other information on the evolution of the 20' hull elsewhere in the Forum. See also the Cetacea section on Jimh's 20' Revenge, the same hull.
Steve Leone posted 01-23-2001 09:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve Leone  Send Email to Steve Leone     
There was a "porpoising" problem with the 20 footers at full throttle. Especially with twins. Steve.
lhg posted 01-24-2001 12:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Steve, you're correct, but that was the original 20, built from 1978-1984, the first of the V-series Outrages. It's vee was too shallow, and it rode a little hard, and the transom angle was a little shallow. The 1985 model being talked about here is basically a chopped off 22.
ledfoot posted 01-26-2001 01:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for ledfoot  Send Email to ledfoot     
Thanks again for all the info!

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