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andygere posted 01-16-2001 03:41 PM ET (US)   Profile for andygere   Send Email to andygere  
I went to the SF Boat and Sport show at the Cow Palace yesterday and spent some time at the Whaler booth. They didn't bring a Montuak, explaining that they didn't have any in stock. The did show a Dauntless 16, Ventura 18, Duantless 22, Outrage 28, Conquest 26, Outrage 21 Sport 13 and the new Impact. The dealer confirmed that the Commerical Division will shut down after filling final orders, but that it may be reorganized and moved. Overall, they had one of the larger displays and seemed busy when we stopped by.
Highlight: My wife Nancy, upon boarding the Outrage 28, looking right at the salesman and asking "so where's the livewell on this boat?"
Bummer: Almost every time I asked a salesman (outboard, boat, you name it) a question, they immediately reached for their sales brochure and started to look up the answer. Don't these guys know anything about the products they're selling?
Other notes: The only mfr. with an 85-100 hp 2006 compliant (required now in CA) 2 stroke was Evinrude, with a 90 hp Fict. Let's hope they survive! OMC was not there, but a local dealer was with a decent display of motors. One Yamaha dealer at the factory display was willing to guarantee that his high-thrust 50 hp 4 stroke would match the performance (all aspects) of my 85 hp 2 stroke. Send this guy back to Physics 101. When asked, none of the outboard dealers seemed willing to consider intalling a new motor using an existing Morse control (but several, including Suzuki, addmitted their control was $400 above the quoted price for the motor). Overall, it was a lot of fun, with more boats and product than you could ever see in one day. We did score a really good deal on a wakeboard and bindings. A few of the specialty Wakeboard/Water Ski shops from the Delta area were there, and they were willing to negotiate.
whalernut posted 01-16-2001 04:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Andy, those new Whaler salesman are actually Sea Ray salesman, that happen to have Boston Whaler at the sales room now, they haven`t a clue as to what a Boston Whaler is, and really don`t know what they were when they acctually were Boston Whalers. I have had first hand experience with these Sea Ray salesman at a Marine Max, at least their Izods and the Mouse in their hair was nice. Regards-Jack Graner.
minh nguyen posted 01-16-2001 05:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for minh nguyen  Send Email to minh nguyen     
Talk about Whaler, actually with the built-in live-well and fish box most of them
are too small and not suitable for serious live bait fishing, the biggest livewell on Whaler probably holds no more than one scoop of enchovies, and some of the fish box are long and narrow, if we catch a 10# halibut I am afraid we can keep them in the fish box.
And worst yet, their space of electronic are
small, Our friend is looking at a Conquest 23
and is struggling with how to put in 7" or 8"
radar, fishfinder and so on...
On my Outrage 21 thanks to the optional electronic box that gives me more space than a 23 or 26 Conquest. I guess Whaler designers are not quite as good fishermen
triblet posted 01-16-2001 07:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Andy was stating that ALL the sales people
didn't know their stuff, not specifically
whaler.

Whalernut, there's only one whaler dealer
in the bay area, (The Outboard Motor Shop
in Alameda) far as I know, and they
have been dealing whalers for MANY years,
like 20 or 30. They don't deal Sea Ray.

Incidently, they've been an OMC dealer
for a long time, and I noticed recently
that they are also a Mercury dealer. Bet
they are thanking Brunswick for forcefeeding
them Mercury just now.

Chuck

whalernut posted 01-16-2001 09:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Chuck, there is a Whaler dealer(Portage Entry Marine) in Port Clinton, Ohio on Lake Erie that has been around for many, many years and they know their stuff, but were diehard OMC and Yamaha dealers and offered both on their Whalers, so I know their not happy. I also talked to one of the older salesman and he isn`t happy with Boston Whaler in general. Right up the street from them is Progressive Marine which carries Edgewater boats, I`ll bet that makes things interesting around them parts. Regards-Jack Graner.
Steve Leone posted 01-16-2001 10:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Steve Leone  Send Email to Steve Leone     
Minh, If you would like a REAL live bait tank give me a shout. Steve.
DIVE 1 posted 01-16-2001 11:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
Whalernut,
Portage Entry Marine sold their facility in Port Clinton. Their new facility is on Rt.269 off of Rt.2.
andygere posted 01-17-2001 01:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Chuck is right,the Whaler booth was from the Outboard Motor Shop, and they are not a Sea Ray dealer. Whaler is the only thing I've ever seen in their showroom, although they do sell a line of tin skiffs. My remarks were not specifically directed at the Whaler dealers, in fact, they were probably the only ones who seemed to know their product. The quality of the boats looked good, although I agree that I would probably look for a clean classic rather than buy new when I get the BBB syndrome (that's Bigger, Better Boat).
whalernut posted 01-17-2001 05:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Dive 1, thanks for the info, I will make a note of it when I call them if I need to go there, to ask for exact directions. Regards-Jack Graner.

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