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blackdog posted 03-16-2001 09:35 AM ET (US)   Profile for blackdog   Send Email to blackdog  
Dry Stack vs. Slip. Considering using a marina that offers slips and dry stack storage.
Two concerns I have.
-Time to get in the water- You call an hour before you arrive or the night before
-Damage to the hull

Blackdog

lhg posted 03-16-2001 02:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
I've had good, and not so good experience with dry stacking my 25 Outrage.

Most common problem is how the hull is supported. Almost none have the needed keel support, instead using long beams bow to stern so the forks can slide in to pick up the boat. I have noticed some indentations in my hull from the weight of the boat being carried on the unsupported foam sections. These places do not support the hull anywhere near as well as the four 2x6 bunk trailers do.

Also, if you have no bottom paint, eventually the bottom can get scraped, gouged and surface damaged from the forks and rack supports. I have also had to spend hours rubbing off patches of blue or black bottom paint that gets picked up off the bottoms of other boats and transferred to your hull.

Unless you're on the top, water and corrosion leaking out of boats racked over you will drip into your boat. Not every boat in the joint will be a mint condition Whaler. Some will have corroded bottom fittings which will drip crap & salt on you. Use your cover when racked to prevent this.
In spite of what they say, don't call ahead to have your boat put in the water. You want to be there and watch them do it if you can.
Just trust me on this. And never leave the keys with the boat, in spite of what they demand. I even have converted the kill switch to function as a hidden anti-theft, anti-unauthorized use, purpose.

Here's the worst. The yard guys at one of these places evidently took my then less than 2 year old Whaler out for an afterhours, evening joy ride, and damaged BOTH engines. This place insisted that I leave the keys, so I trusted them. They threw a rod on one of the engines, and chewed up the drive shaft splines on the other. The place refused any liability, saying I had caused the damage.
Mercury took care of the repairs at the tune of $6000. Mechanics said that by looking at the damage to these practically new engines, they had been hopping the waves at over 60mph and overreving the engines. The boat was covered in salt, not the way I left it.

But some of these places are first class, and will take great care of your boat. So choose accordingly, and there are great benefits. Your boat is out of the water, away from sun oxidation, generally safe from theft of equipment, and no bottom paint is needed. One had to decide what are your priorities. The cost is generally quite high. My 25 Outrage costs $400/month when I do it.

whalernut posted 03-16-2001 09:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Larry, $400 a month-Whow! I pay $400 and something a year to be in a boat club and that includes dock and dues and electric on Lake Erie! It has a bar,kitchen, showers, TV`s, etc. I didn`t realize how lucky I had it? All the members do any needed work around the joint, and you have to put in 10 hours in of labor per year or get charged $15 and hour, no big deal. Regards-Jack Graner.
hardensheetmetal posted 03-16-2001 10:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Jack-

We have the same deal at our marina, i was not aware of too many 'working' clubs, but maybe I am just niave. We are located about 60 miles above NYC, my dues/membership are about $300.00 for the year + $20/hr for every hour I don't put in out of 28 (12 fall, 16 spring) This is an unreal deal around here, so you don't find many people giving up their slips. the marina is aboput a 10 minute walk from where I live, and I still can't find enough hours to use my 22 (thus the reason it is for sale). How early do you get to put your boat in in Ohio?

Dan

Dan

whalernut posted 03-16-2001 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Dan, that is a good deal for NYC! We can put in/take out or leave in at any time we want. All winter if you like! We all have keys to the place! We have about 110 members and 100 docks. My dues are about $250 Dues, $30 Electric, and $10 a foot for boat! We don`t pay by the dock length. If you have shore power, electric is $90. I don`t. I love it, clean,friendly, alot of Classic `13 Whalers. I have the only other size Whaler in the clyb with a 73` `16 footer. Noone in the whole harbor has any new `13 Sports. In the whole harbor out of thousands of boats there is only 1 new Outrage. I looked it over and it is not Whaler like at all, nothing like the Classics, don`t like it. I guess we both got lucky finding the clubs we did! Regards-Jack Graner.
bigz posted 03-17-2001 10:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Jack -- Dan is no where near NYC -- he is up on the Hudson close to Albany --- and Dan your right not a lot of "clubs" any where near your deal or Jacks.

For our 27 it averages for the year just about $150 per month, this includes slip,minor electric hook up (battery charger, for repair tools etc), water, take out and put in season to season plus stands for winter storage, shrink wrap, and winterizing the engines and boat.

As Larry mentioned Gene, the hull might be the real concern also you are governed by the marina labor hours of operation. As you know if you keep here in a slip in either of the Bays does mean bottom paint for the season. Might just want to keep her on your trailer at a marina, know it is a pain to hook up and launch/retrieve but at least your in control and wouldn't have the bottom paint headache annually. Just a thought.

Tom

PS I was down at a "dry store" rack marina last week in NC -- now this was a first class operation and they had about 4 Whalers looked at a glance to be all OR's in the 20 foot range on racks -- it also was a very pricey marina -- when you called -- boat in water and warmed up ready to go -- on take out hull fresh water washed and all systems shut down and drain plugs pulled -- slick deal ---

hardensheetmetal posted 03-17-2001 03:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Tom,

Not that it matters, but, I am actually closer to the city (60 miles) than I am to Albany (90 miles).

Our marina has about 150 active members, from all walks of life. the club usually find a way to tap in to each member occupation to better the club (i.e. carpenters build docks, accountants do some book keeping, plumbers and electricians maintain these services, etc.), it works out very well. we will be putting our docks back in starting next weekend.

Dan

whalernut posted 03-17-2001 05:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
Tom, do you have floating docks, as you said putting them back in? We have the permanent kind and have to adjust them according to the boat and water level. We do the same with the members occupation(plumbers, carenters,etc.). The only thing I have to offer is my back! Regards-Jack Graner.
bigz posted 03-18-2001 09:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Yes Jack floating docks -- tide averages around 5 to 6 feet. They are just now starting to put the poles and docks back in.

The river ices up pretty good and can/has snapped the 10" diameter steel pipes they use for the docks right off, most are removed each winter but a few they use for reference points in the spring are left in --- 4 were snapped off this year --- they were able to pull the below water pieces out --- thankfully!

Tom

blackdog posted 03-19-2001 11:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
Thanks Guys. It looks like itís the Trailer .

Blackdog

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