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CharlieB posted 03-21-2001 12:44 PM ET (US)   Profile for CharlieB   Send Email to CharlieB  
Just found this board, and for a reason. I have read as many posts as possible to help myself with a decision. I have found a 60's BW for sale and I can't decide if I should purchase. Info: 17' that has been sitting on trailer for 3 - 5 yrs, galv trailer, 1987 90hp Johnson (rebuild from top to bottom at dealer - 20 hrs ago). Dealer will start motor and check. Trailer is in good condition, maybe new tires and bearings required. Boat is my question. Has been bottom painted um-teen times and deck has been painted the same way. I have crawled, hit, poked and whatever I could do and can only find/see where minor repairs have been done to hull. My experience with BW is nill. What else, where else on boat to look at/for should I do?? The owner needs money now and he will take $2,000 cash. I need a little push here - help, and thanks for any advise.
jimh posted 03-21-2001 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
It is not unusual to see bottom paint on a Whaler. If the boat is to trailer-operated, you would probably want to remove it. That is a messy task.

The interior of a pre-1972 16-foot hull should be blue gelcoat. You may be confusing that for paint.

If the interior has been painted, it represents a dent in the value of the boat in my mind.

If the boat floats, is not banged up, the engine runs, and the trailer is decent, certainly you won't find too many 16-foot Whalers for less.

You should consider how much time you will have available to return the boat to top shape versus how much money you have to buy one already in top shape. Or maybe you just want a boat that works and are not overly concerned with it being in museum quality condition.

On the other hand, a boat in lousy shape does not fetch much of a price, but with a bit of investment of time and money can be put into good condition. When put into good condition it would likely be worth far more than $2,000.


Barry posted 03-21-2001 02:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     

BUY THE BOAT! (That's not just a push, it's a shove!)

Welcome to the Forum!

Tom W Clark posted 03-21-2001 03:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     

You don't want an old stinky Boston Whaler, no way, forget it. Could you send me the owners phone number?

Outraged posted 03-21-2001 06:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Outraged  Send Email to Outraged     
Sounds like a great deal! I purchased a `71 16`7 2 years ago for 3000 & it needed some TLC, but I used it for 4 months, fixed the steering wheel,did not do much else to it ( I made a helm seat out of 2 wolmanized boards,put an old Sea Ray seat/cushion on it) and sold it in the spring for 3500! I would go for it!
Dan posted 03-21-2001 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dan  Send Email to Dan     
I suggest that you have an independent mechanic survey the boat . Is the engine rebuild under warranty? The cost of a new engine would make the deal a bad deal in my opinion. Even if the engine has been reuilt , it's still 14 years old. 30-35 years on the hull is a lot of usage, too. Also, little things that you might want to improve on can add up to a lot of money. It is very easy to put down 2,000 and wind up sinking another 4,500 before you know it. Boat season is just around the corner, and I believe it's more fun to be on the water enjoying yourself then at home working on the boat. It might not be so bad fixing a boat over the winter, but now it's almost prime time. Good luck.
matt posted 03-21-2001 09:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for matt  Send Email to matt     
oh god!could it be. no,no.. tom is not buying fresh water whalers. could it be like mad cow disease? maybe mad whaler disease!next he will have a website,and only buy whalers from the omish drawn by mule.OH THE
dchris2 posted 03-21-2001 10:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for dchris2  Send Email to dchris2     
Are you sure this is the boat you want and need? You'll need at least a 70 hp reliable motor. Do you really have time to restore it this Spring? Tow it or dock it? Towing can be tough or easy. Realistically, I don't have the time or patience. bought the new 13' sport with engine for about 9.3k, but I know I'm not buying somebodies problem. It sounds like a good deal; if your heart is in it, buy. My greatest regret is not making a decision 2 yrs ago. Get out on the water.
Chesapeake posted 03-22-2001 09:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Chesapeake  Send Email to Chesapeake     
Get it on the water and see if it 1) floats and 2)runs. If yes, buy it.
skookum point posted 03-22-2001 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for skookum point  Send Email to skookum point     
I agree with Dan. I'm a sucker for neglected boats at giveaway prices and have bought several. Each time I end up spending thousands more than I expected to bring it up to primo condition. I usually end up investing more in the boat than I can sell it for. On the other hand, some of us enjoy working on the boat as much as being on the water, if you are one of those, go for it!
CharlieB posted 03-22-2001 06:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for CharlieB  Send Email to CharlieB     
First, I want to thank everyone for their input, that is what I was looking for. This board seems to be very enjoyable (compared to other boards), and I want the moderators of this board to know that. I think I will take the leap and buy this boat. I have a large garage at home (30'x60')that I have restored other boats in so space is not a problem. I have another boat so I am planning on a one year (off and on) restore of this BW. The 90hp on the boat now is rebuilt (new pistons, heads, carbs, power pack/electronics) and I contacted the marine repair shop that rebuilt the motor and since the owner of this boat has given them a lot of business over the years and they know the situation, they will start, adjust and check the motor free (can't beat the price!!). The galv trailer is probably an 8+ so I guess it alone is worth 600-800. The only thing I can see wrong with the boat, besides years of neglect and general blemishes (dirt, leaves, etc) is the center console looks bad and I don't have a problem with that. One thing going for me is that I have a close friend that does epoxy and fiberglass work, which I lack skills in but I am a fast learner. I plan on using this boat for part time bay fishing only. Another good thing is I live 15 minutes from the Susquehanna River and the North end of the Chesapeake Bay. I, again, thank you for your comments and I am looking forward to continuing with this board.

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