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RMS posted 03-23-2001 01:19 PM ET (US)
Considering the purchase of a 1988 Whaler Drive equipped boat. Anyone have thoughts if twin 1988 Evinrude 140's would be sufficient for the above vessel? I believe the max hp is 450. Any other thoughts or things to look for with this model?
jimh posted 03-24-2001 04:00 PM ET (US)
A 25 Revenge WT Whaler Drive is a really desireable boat! But it's a big one.
If you are thinking of trailering it, you'd better have a big tow vehicle.
I'll leave the question of powering it to some others. I think it depends on how fast you want to go. It you want to hit 50 MPH you'll need some more power, but if you just want to cruise on plane, I would think you'd be fine.
One question for twin engine boats: Can the hull get on plane with just one engine?
bigz posted 03-24-2001 04:42 PM ET (US)
115 hp is the bare min. hp to plane and that is with a light load. The max rating was 300 hp on the outboard and old Sea Drive version but I believe with the Whaler Drive it was increased to 400 ---
As Jim said if your not a pedal to the metal man the twin 140's if in good shape would be satisfactory.
Check all through hull fittings for any corrosion/deterioration which could allow water to penetrated the core.
Frankly depending on your budget would suggest a professional marine surveyor look her over and do a sea trial -- the survey can be used for negotiations, loan values if needed and also for securing the proper amount of insurance --- well worth it when you get into this value and size of a boat.
Good luck ---- Tom
Ray posted 03-24-2001 08:57 PM ET (US)
Mine's a '85 Revenge 25WT and it does just fine with a single 225 Johnson. It goes out at 40mph and jumps on a plane very fast. Unless one were to go out ocean running there's not much point to twins.
Ray
tbirdsey posted 03-25-2001 07:33 AM ET (US)
RMS: If you decide to pass on the 25, I'd be interested in looking at it. I am currently looking for a 25 WT with whaler drive/full transom. Looked at an 89 yesterday in SW Conn, but it was a case of false advertising -- notched transom instead of whaler drive, although boat was in good condition.
RMS posted 03-26-2001 09:05 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the information, guys. The boat turns out not to be the WhalerDrive model. I believe the boat is the same as the one tbirdsey looked at. When the broker called me back late Saturday, he claimed it wasn't the 'whaletail' model. He doesn't seem to be up to speed on Whalers, to say the least. Thanks again.
lhg posted 03-29-2001 10:26 PM ET (US)
Would be Revenge 25 WT buyers: Don't forget that for $3000 you can still put an Armstrong or similiar transom bracket on a notched transom model and have a great performing, and great looking, boat. You would need, however, twin 25" CR engines, instead of the 20's probably on the boat now. I've seen brackets on several notched transom outrages, and they look good.
Bullbay posted 03-30-2001 08:37 AM ET (US)
There is a 1989 Revenge 27' Offshore with whaler drive in Charleston at the Ashley Marina and Yacht Club. It has twin 225 Evinrudes and is in excellent condition. Asking price is only $35,000. You ought to check this one out.
bigz posted 03-30-2001 08:52 AM ET (US)
Bullbay --- what your looking at is either a 27 full cabin, or a 27 (semi cabin forward w/helm station) there were no Revenge 27's made and the "Offshore" 27 didn't appear until '91-'92 model year.
However, aside from mistaken identity the price is a pretty good one particularly if it is a full cabin model---
RMS posted 03-30-2001 08:54 AM ET (US)
Thanks lhg and bullbay. The 27' sounds nice but a little too much boat for me at this point. The broker for the 25 Revenge called to follow up on a few points for me, one that I found interesting is that the twin 140's were not counter-rotating, but they are supposedly the original engines.

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Author	Topic: 25' Revenge WT
RMS	posted 03-23-2001 01:19 PM ET (US) Considering the purchase of a 1988 Whaler Drive equipped boat. Anyone have thoughts if twin 1988 Evinrude 140's would be sufficient for the above vessel? I believe the max hp is 450. Any other thoughts or things to look for with this model?
jimh	posted 03-24-2001 04:00 PM ET (US) A 25 Revenge WT Whaler Drive is a really desireable boat! But it's a big one. If you are thinking of trailering it, you'd better have a big tow vehicle. I'll leave the question of powering it to some others. I think it depends on how fast you want to go. It you want to hit 50 MPH you'll need some more power, but if you just want to cruise on plane, I would think you'd be fine. One question for twin engine boats: Can the hull get on plane with just one engine?
bigz	posted 03-24-2001 04:42 PM ET (US) 115 hp is the bare min. hp to plane and that is with a light load. The max rating was 300 hp on the outboard and old Sea Drive version but I believe with the Whaler Drive it was increased to 400 --- As Jim said if your not a pedal to the metal man the twin 140's if in good shape would be satisfactory. Check all through hull fittings for any corrosion/deterioration which could allow water to penetrated the core. Frankly depending on your budget would suggest a professional marine surveyor look her over and do a sea trial -- the survey can be used for negotiations, loan values if needed and also for securing the proper amount of insurance --- well worth it when you get into this value and size of a boat. Good luck ---- Tom
Ray	posted 03-24-2001 08:57 PM ET (US) Mine's a '85 Revenge 25WT and it does just fine with a single 225 Johnson. It goes out at 40mph and jumps on a plane very fast. Unless one were to go out ocean running there's not much point to twins. Ray
tbirdsey	posted 03-25-2001 07:33 AM ET (US) RMS: If you decide to pass on the 25, I'd be interested in looking at it. I am currently looking for a 25 WT with whaler drive/full transom. Looked at an 89 yesterday in SW Conn, but it was a case of false advertising -- notched transom instead of whaler drive, although boat was in good condition.
RMS	posted 03-26-2001 09:05 AM ET (US) Thanks for the information, guys. The boat turns out not to be the WhalerDrive model. I believe the boat is the same as the one tbirdsey looked at. When the broker called me back late Saturday, he claimed it wasn't the 'whaletail' model. He doesn't seem to be up to speed on Whalers, to say the least. Thanks again.
lhg	posted 03-29-2001 10:26 PM ET (US) Would be Revenge 25 WT buyers: Don't forget that for $3000 you can still put an Armstrong or similiar transom bracket on a notched transom model and have a great performing, and great looking, boat. You would need, however, twin 25" CR engines, instead of the 20's probably on the boat now. I've seen brackets on several notched transom outrages, and they look good.
Bullbay	posted 03-30-2001 08:37 AM ET (US) There is a 1989 Revenge 27' Offshore with whaler drive in Charleston at the Ashley Marina and Yacht Club. It has twin 225 Evinrudes and is in excellent condition. Asking price is only $35,000. You ought to check this one out.
bigz	posted 03-30-2001 08:52 AM ET (US) Bullbay --- what your looking at is either a 27 full cabin, or a 27 (semi cabin forward w/helm station) there were no Revenge 27's made and the "Offshore" 27 didn't appear until '91-'92 model year. However, aside from mistaken identity the price is a pretty good one particularly if it is a full cabin model---
RMS	posted 03-30-2001 08:54 AM ET (US) Thanks lhg and bullbay. The 27' sounds nice but a little too much boat for me at this point. The broker for the 25 Revenge called to follow up on a few points for me, one that I found interesting is that the twin 140's were not counter-rotating, but they are supposedly the original engines.