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hardensheetmetal posted 05-24-2001 05:15 PM ET (US)   Profile for hardensheetmetal   Send Email to hardensheetmetal  
what are the major differences between a 1987 18 outrage, a 1990 19 outrage, and a 1993 19 Outrage? Is the hull basically the same (18'6") for all three. The 1993 seems to have less freeboard, and I can see the seats and console base are molded into the inner liner. What else?

Dan

Peter posted 05-24-2001 06:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Dan,

I don't believe that there is any physical difference between the 1987 18 Outrage and the 1990 19 Outrage. I think this was a marketing move to distinguish the 18 Outrage hull from the newly minted 17 Outrage. With respect to the 1993 hull ("Outrage II"), however, there are some significant differences. The outer hull is very similar except in the transom area. The free board is the same. I am told that the 1993 hull has a third liner to form the jump seats in the stern. The console stores the battery. The bow area has a raised casting platform. The advertised dry weight is 1800 lbs versus 1250 lbs for the 18/19 Outrage.

hardensheetmetal posted 05-24-2001 07:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
pete-

How goes it? I just got off the phone with a guy that has a 19 outrage w/ a 150 Johnson on the lower CT River, that would be your neck of the woods, right?

Dan

Peter posted 05-24-2001 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Dan,

It goes well. Had the Revenge 22 launched on schedule yesterday afternoon in the miserable weather we are having to make sure that it got launched before the upcoming holiday. Then piloted it 20 miles West to its summer residence at about 20 to 25 mph with 20-30 mph wind gusts at my back in a 4-6 foot following sea and a fine misty rain reducing maximum visibility to 1 mile. It was quite a fun ride. Wouldn't have done that 10 years ago, but thanks to the GPS, it was no problem. My 15 year old 22' hull performed as admirably and predictably as my former 18, but with less pounding. I have to say that yesterday's ride proved again that the 22'er is a big water boat with a dry and sure footed ride. One of the things I miss about the 18 though is the ease at which it could be docked. The 22' requires a little more fore thought.

The CT River is about 50-60 miles to the East. I'm in Fairfield County. What year is the 19?

hardensheetmetal posted 05-24-2001 08:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for hardensheetmetal  Send Email to hardensheetmetal     
Sounds like a perfect Whaler day! The 19 is a 1992. I've seen some pictures of different 19's from this time and some have the normal Outrage/Montauk console, and some have a molded in console with a really tall windsheild. i tend to like the old style a little better as you can mount a full stern seat in the rear.

I'm getting ready to put the 13 back together soon, last caots of varnish this week, bottom sanded ready for paint. I startted the motor up last sunday for the first time - what a relief, as I was unable to run it before I bought it- kicked right over, not bad for a 23 year old Merc.

Dan

lhg posted 05-24-2001 09:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
JimH has done some pretty good discussion and reference on the differences between the "all Dougherty" Outrage 18/19 (1983-1991) and the Dougherty/VanLancker Outrage II (1992-1995). See Rendezvous section Pages 1 and 2,(also some pictures on Page 3) as boats of each vintage attended, and were photographed and described in detail.
jimh posted 05-24-2001 09:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Regarding the differences between a c.1989 18-Outrage and a c.1990 19-Outrage-II, you will find a lengthy description of each and a comparison of them in my Classic Whaler North Chanel Redezvous 2000 narrative.

At the end of each day's narrative, I talk about a different boat. The line-up is:

Day 1 = 19-Outrage II
Day 2 = Outrage 18
Day 3 = Outrage 25
Day 4 = some comments on Outrage 18 again

Jump to http://continuouswave.com/whaler/rendezvous/ to get started.

I think you will find a detailed examination of these two boats, along with an quite readeable narrative of an interesting boating adventure.

Peter posted 05-24-2001 09:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
Dan,

It was a perfect Whaler day, although I wish I had my canvas back from the repair shop. I don't think I would have liked to been out there in an equivalent size Mako or Grady, they're too wet in a following or beam sea.

I personally like the 18/19 Outrage better than the 19 Outrage II. FYI, I don't know whether you're still looking for an 18 but there is a 1990 19 for sale in Stamford. See boattrader.com

Now that I'm down to one Whaler again, I was thinking my 22 needs a smaller, easily trailerable companion. I'm thinking maybe in a year or so I might try to find a good 15.

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